In a message dated 99-01-27 23:38:57 EST, you write: > What is Strassburger and Hinke? I am not familiar with that reference. Linda, Strassburger and Hinke are the authors of Pennsylvania German Pioneers which is the source book for the German ship lists between 1727-1808. Virtually all male Gemanic emigrants age 16 and over are listed in this book. You should be able to find the books in any good library. Joan

I don't know anything about Fraktur's but I did see one in Tuscarawas County, OH last summer. They are really neat! And my daughters' gr gr grandfather could make them. Their gr grandmother gave me the drwg. on a piece of paper which I handed down to one of my daughters and she had it framed. It looks very elegant. What I didn't know is that the Fraktur came from PA. I'll see if I can find more info for you.

Connie, there are many good books on Fractur artists of PA. They ought to have some at Ft. Wayne Libr. If you want to see the real thing, they have a great collection at the Mennonite Historians of Eastern PA. at Harleysville, PA, Homepage http://www.pond.com/~mennhist. Corinne Earnest has published several good books on Fractur and should be available from MHEP or Menn. Hist Soc. in Lancaster, PA or through book sellers on Internet. Good Luck Mary Case

In a message dated 99-01-27 22:09:24 EST, you write: > I am looking for any information on Richel surname. It was later spelled > Ryhal. My gr. gr. gr. grandfather was William S. Richel b. 1818 and he > lived in Springfield Twp., Mercer Co. I have been told the Richel's are > German. But can find nothing on ships lists, naturalizations, etc. > concerning this spelling. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Linda, I would try some variations of the spelling. In Strassburger and Hinke I can find: Reichel: Henry Johan Deys Johann Jorg (John George) Johannes Reichheld: Pancratius Reichle: Georg Christoph Reichly: Wilhelm I would start by looking for those spellings. Joan

Hi L.A.McGinnis, Again, here are the only Web sites on the Bonaparte’s "in America" that I know of: The Bonaparte’s in Philadelphia: http://www.libertynet.org/athena/bon1.html The Bonaparte’s in America: http://www.heraldica.org/topics/usa/bonapart.htm The Bonaparte’s in Texas: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=20968&query=Jerome+Bonaparte The Beauharnais in the West Indies: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=14487&query=Beauharnais The New Texas Handbook: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/ Alta Vista's Translation page: http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate Do you have any information on the Philadelphia Bonaparte's, etc.? Or, do you know of any other online sources with respect to the Bonaparte's in America? The bottom line is that I am seeking any information on: (1) the Pollard surname, (2) Champs d’Asile Bonapartist's colony (Field of Asylum) c. 1818-1819 (Texas), (3) Champs d’Aiglon Bonapartist's colony (Field of Eagles) c. 1818-1819 (Alabama). I welcome any objective information to confirm, deny, or connect my Early Oregon Territory Pioneers. Thank you for your help and your time. Best, Dick Pollard [email protected] http://home1.gte.net/pollard/index.htm

>From the Guide to the Old Moravian Cemetery at Bethlehem: Edward Montgomery Eberman 1834-1903. Born at Lititz, PA, son of Rev. William Eberman, a Moravian missionary to the West Indies. He filled very acceptably, for many years, the position of reporter for the Bethlehem Times and also wrote in Pennsylvania German. In 1870 he married Marie Milchsack. They had two daughters and three sons. He was my (pause to compute...) second cousin, four times removed. (His grandmother was Elizabeth Frank, a daughter of my immigrant). Has anyone seen anything he wrote, any suggestion on how to find it? TIA Jan -- Janice Frank <[email protected]> Researching names: BISCHOFF, DIETRICH, FRANCK/FRANK, KELLER, KUNZ/KUNTZ, LUPHER/LUPFER/LUPER, SCHULTZ/SHULTZ, TAYLOR

Hi L.A.McGinnis, Thank you for responding to my post -- my response was posted at 00:09:56-0800. But it came out garbled, i.e., with words added or missing and text out of place. So, I am re-posting it in hope that it will be more legible -- I added a few details, too. For three years I have been seeking information on Sebastian (Bastier) Pollard (hereinafter referred to as Sebastian). This is the name of my G-G-Grandfather who came to the U.S. from the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France. I am told that he lived in the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France in the 19th century. Apparently he was born between 1790 and 1815. According to family history he is somehow related to the Bonaparte (Buonaparte) family of Corsica. Sebastian Pollard is said to have come to the United States by way of New Orleans, Louisiana sometime in 1857 (but he may have been in the U.S. much earlier). He was known to speak French, German, and English -- my G-Grandfather grew up speaking German, too. However, I do not know when he was born or whether or not he was native to the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France. My G-G-Grandfather Pollard is said to have married a Ms. Sallie Kinder (Kunder?) in Louisiana, Pennsylvania or Early Oregon Territory; sometime in the mid-late 19th century: http://www.isu.edu/~trinmich/Oregontrail.html http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/wpages/wpgs300/3whitman.htm. Sallie Kinder's father was said to be Asa Kinder and her mother was said to be a Mrs. Frances Blux, Blue, or Bilyeu (?). Both Asa and Frances were said to be from Holland or Germany. I am also told that Asa and Frances were said to be connected to William Penn's people, i.e., they were Pennsylvania Dutch Quakers. And, they were said to have family in Illinois, Canada, New York, and Pennsylvania. I should also not that Asa, Frances and Sallie spoke German (possibly French?) and English, too. Sebastian Pollard was killed when my G-Grandfather, William Richard Pollard was six months old -- sometime between 1871-1872 (I have not located a birth certificate yet). Within several years of my G-G-Grandfather Pollard’s death, by G-G-Grandmother remarried. In 1884-1885, my G-G-Grandmother Pollard died or was killed under questionable circumstances. Shortly thereafter, her second husband was killed in a fire which destroyed their home. Presently, I am seeking any information which may connects my Pollard’s with Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s. For example, I am told that my Pollard’s lived in Pollard, Washington: http://extra.entisoft.com/P/o/Pollard.HTM and Walla Walla, Washington: http://www.peak.org/~mransom/pioneers.html during the 19th century. But, so far I have been unable to confirm a genealogical connection with Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s and my Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s. In the meantime, with the aid of my family history, I have found a record of a B.F. Pollard (Bastier Pollard?) traveling on the Steamship Texas in New Orleans, Louisiana, on January 16th, 1857. The Steamship Texas was traveling from either New York or California and was on its' way to the San Juans (Havana Cuba) in the West Indies. The ships log indicates that B.F. Pollard may either have been a citizen of the United States or of Germany. Depending on how you read it, the log may read that he was: a U.S. citizen, a German citizen, and that he may possibly have been a lawyer (?). I have had two professional genealogists examine this ship log on microfilm. One says that he was a German lawyer and the other says he was a United States citizen. Anyway, although B.F. Pollard corresponds with my family history, I do not know if he is connected to my Pollard’s; I am simply exploring a possible lead. Moving right along, Sebastian Pollard is said to have fought in “Napoleons Army” or as they say in French, “L’Armee de Napoleon." By the way, Sebastian is said to have come to the United States with several Generals and a Lieutenant of Napoleons Army: Bernard/Benard, George, Charles, or William. I am also told that my G-G-Grandfather hired three, as yet unidentified, men to purchase land in Early Oregon Territory, the Willamette Valley; totaling one square mile (1609,33m.). My G-G-Grandfather Sebastian Pollard was said to have a cousin in the Texas Army, Calvary or Rangers. And, he was said to have a cousin, Athiela (I do not know the correct spelling but that's what the name sounds like), who died in Florida. The bottom line is that I am seeking any information on: (1) the Pollard surname, (2) Champs d’Asile Bonapartist's colony (Field of Asylum) c. 1818-1819 (Texas), (3) Champs d’Aiglon Bonapartist's colony (Field of Eagles) c. 1818-1819 (Alabama). I welcome any objective information to confirm, deny, or connect my Early Oregon Territory Pioneers. Thank you for your help and your time. Best, Dick Pollard [email protected] http://home1.gte.net/pollard/index.htm P.S., After three years of research, last summer and winter I found some Web sites on the Bonaparte’s in America (W3 search engines are getting better all the time): The Bonaparte’s in Philadelphia: http://www.libertynet.org/athena/bon1.html The Bonaparte’s in America: http://www.heraldica.org/topics/usa/bonapart.htm The Bonaparte’s in Texas: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=20968&query=Jerome+Bonaparte The Beauharnais in the West Indies: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=14480&query=Beauharnais "L.A.McGinnis" wrote: > Think I may be able to help - with recalling my school years taking > French - > as well as connecting to a possible 'cuz' Pollard > line - > > >Any French speakers out there? > > > >RE: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] PHILADELPHIA BONAPARTE's > > did not think Pollard line was French - but may very be. > [ne pense pas Pollard est francais - mais possible] > > > > >>>Je cherche por le patronyme Pollard et le nom Sebastien ou Bastier > >(surnom). C'est le nom de mon g-g-grand pere des Pyrenees a Sud France. > >Mon g-g-grand-pere, Bastier/Sebastian/Sebastien POLLARD est la > >connection -- epellation correct? > > no connection with any but Pollard - see line(s) at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8379/pollard.html > [le connection n'est pas avec Bastier ou Sebastian ou Sebastien mais > Pollard - avez http://www.geocities.com/Heartlans/Fields/8379/pollard.html] > > > > >Je sais qu'il est habite de la rigion des Pyrenees en Sud France dans le > >dix-neuvieme (19e) siecle. Et, je sais qu'il etait ne entre 1790 et > >1815. Et ma famille me dites qu'il etait de la famille > >Bonaparte/Buonaparte; et qu'il etait avec L'Armee de Napoleon. Il est > >venu aux Etats-Unis par New Orleans, Louisiana (USA) entre l'annee 1818 > >(?) et 1857. > > what about 18C? - mine in states by 1750's (Am. Rev.); sure > would like to connect further back. > > [ qu'est-ce que c'est le 18e? - le mien dans l'etats unis par le > revolution; certainement apprecier connection plus eloigne] > > > > >J’ai trouver un record de B.F.Pollard sur la Steamship Texas en New > >Orleans c. Janvier 16, 1857. Il etait en route de San Juans/Havana > >(Cuba dans le West Indies) de New York ou California (USA) -- Texas > >(USA)?. Si’l etait mon g-g-grand pere, le record m’indiquer que mon > >g-g-grand pere arriver de Allemand (aux Etats-Unis) et qu’il etait un > >avocat. Mais le patronyme Pollard n’est pas allemand ou francais, non > >plus. Mais, l’information de son arriver et d'allemand correspondre > >avec l’information de ma famille. > > Pollard isn't then French? - but may be German; mine came from > Britain to states. > [Pollard n'est pas francais? - mais oui est possible allemand; le mien de > Grande-Bretagne a Etats-Unis > ] > > > >Encore, il est venu aux Etats-Unis avec deux Generales et un Lieutenant > >qu'etait dans L'Armee de Napoleon: Bernard, George, Charles, ou > >Guillaume(?) Ou un General est-un Lieutenant qu'etait dans L'Armee de > >Napoleon, aussi bien. C'est importante a dites que mon g-g-grand pere > >donner trois hommes monnaie a acheter terre, un mille (1609,33m.), a > >Early Oregon Territory, mais je pas connais leur noms. Et, c'est > >importante a dites que je sais qu'il a parle: (1) francais, (2) > >allemand, et (3) anglais. > > good - then we can communicate - your dates confuse me; does > your line go back this far? > [bon - alors nous parlons (je parle l'anglais et un peu le francais, mais > retablier de l'ecole jours) - votre dites mon confondre; qu'est-ce que c'est > votre lignee savoir vers connaitre] > > > > >Mais, je n'ai pas: (1) son date de naissance, ou (2) la place de son > >naissance, seulemenet le fact que il est arriver de le Pyrenees a Sud > >France. Mais, je sais qu'il m. Sally/Sallie/Frances (?) Kinder/Kunder > >(pronouncer K’nder) aux Etats-Unis vers 1850-1865 (?) en Pennsylvania, > >Louisiana, ou Early Oregon Territory, USA. Et que sa mere etait Mme. > >Blux, Blue, ou Bilyeu (?). > > migration patterns were longer than this generally - any > information as to religion or ? > [votre dites est bref; qu'est-ce que c'est additionnel information > (religieux) ? - ] > > > > >Et qu’elle avait famille aux Illinois, Canada, New York, et > >Pennsylvania - rechercher m'indiquer que Sally/Sallie/Frances est de > >Pennsylvania (USA). C'est importante a dites que je sais qu'il a parle: > >(1) allemand, et (2) anglais. Bastier/Sebastian/Sebastien, il etait > >entre 70 et 94 ans quand mon G-Grand-pere etait ne en 1871-1872. Alors, > >it etait tres vieux quand il est mort (faire mourir) dans le meme annee > >(1871-1872). > > > >En Amerique, il est habite a Early Oregon Territory: (1) > >Pollard, Washington: http://extra.entisoft.com/P/o/Pollard.HTM -- > >maintenant Republic, Washington, et (6) la Willamette Valley, Oregon. > >Encore, il a un cousin, l’oncle de ma g-g-grand pere, Pollard, aux Texas > >(USA) -- il etait dans L’Armee (Army/Calvary) Americaine a Texas (USA). > > will contact him too > [je suis en contacte aussi] > > > > >Enfin, je suis en train de rechercher mes ancestres. Alors, je recherche > >l'origine du nom de ma famille POLLARD. Est-ce qu'un dirivitif francais > >ou d'un nom anglais? Et, por cette raison je voudrais savoir le > >genealogie de: (1) la famille Bonaparte/Buonaparte - frere, cousin, > >etc., (2) L’Armee de Napoleon - avez vous cette information? et (3) des > >Pyrenees. Comment puis-je les trouver pour progresser dans mes > >recherches? Je vous remercie beaucoup d'avance. Merci de votre aide et > >mercie d'avance. > > > with all the best of wishes to you and yours, > your fellow researcher, > anne-ology > [email protected] > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8379/index.html > > [avec meilleurs voeux a vous > et votre, > votre comarade rechercher, ] > ADAMS - ACTON - AREW - BABCOCK - BARCLAY - BELCHER - BENSON - BEAUFORD - > BEAUMONT - BIGGS - BLOIS(E)/BLOYS(E) - BLOUNT - BREWSTER - BRINTON - BROWN - > BULSTRODE - BURTIS - CARY - CEDARCRAFT - CHAMPL(A)IN - CHAMPLIN - CLARE - > CLARK(E) - CLIFFORD - COLLINS - COLLINS - COOK - DE BEAUFORD - DE BEAUMONT - > DE CLARE - DE CLIFFORD - DE LACIE - DE NEVILLE - DE PERCY - DE QUINCY - > DAUGHERTY - DENISON - ECHINGHAM - ENDICOTT - ENLOES/ENLOWS - FISHER - FITZ > MAURICE - GORHAM - GRIFFITH - HALL - HAZARD - HEART(T) - HENDRECKS - > HOLDBROOK - HOLMES - HOWLAND - HOWSER - HURST - JAYNE - JOHNSON - > KINDLOSSON - LACIE - LAWTON - LEACH - LEWIS - LUDLOW - MARSHALL - MARTIN - > MARTYN - MACMURROUGH - MCGINNIS - MOORE - MOTT - NEVILLE - PERCY - POLLARD - > POTTER - PURRIER - PYLE - QUINCY - RINGWOOD - ROBINSON - ROCKET(T) - RYMER - > SCHENK - SELL - SHARP - (SEVER)SMITH - SILVERTHORNE - SMITH - SMITH - > STANHOPE - TALBOTT - TAYLOR - THATCHER - THOMPSON - THOMPSON - TILLEY - > TYLER - VERMAN DOIS - WALKER - WHEELER - WHITEHEAD - WRIGHT - > WINDSOR/WYNDSOR(E) - - ETC. to Wyndsore, to Plantagenets/d'Anjou , to > Charlemange, to Constantine, to Aedd Mawr, ETC. to Ethelred I, Alfred the > Great, ETC. ETC.

Hi L.A.McGinnis, Thank you for responding to my post. For three years I have been seeking information on the Sebastian (Bastier) Pollard (hereinafter referred to as Sebastian). This is the name of my G-G-Grandfather who came to the U.S. from the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France. I am told that he lived in the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France in the 19th century. Apparently he was born between 1790 and 1815. According to family history his is somehow related to the Bonaparte (Buonaparte) family of Corsica. Sebastian Pollard is said to have come to the United States by way of New Orleans, Louisiana sometime in 1857 (but he may have been in the U.S. much earlier). He was known to speak French, German, and English -- my G-Grandfather grew up speaking German, too. However, I do not know when he was born or whether or not he was native to the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France. My G-G-Grandfather Pollard is said to have married a Ms. Sallie Kinder (Kunder?) in Louisiana, Pennsylvania or Early Oregon Territory; sometime in the mid-late 19th century: http://www.isu.edu/~trinmich/Oregontrail.html http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/wpages/wpgs300/3whitman.htm. Sallie's Kinder father was said to be Asa Kinder and her mother was said to be a Mrs. Frances Blux, Blue, or Bilyeu (?). Both Asa and Frances were said to be from Holland or Germany. I am told that Frances was said to have family in Illinois, Canada, New York, and Pennsylvania. I should also not that Asa, Frances and Sallie spoke German (possibly French?) and English, too. Sebastian Pollard was killed when my G-Grandfather, William Richard Pollard was six months old -- sometime between 1871-1872. Within several years of my G-G-Grandfather Pollard’s death, by G-G-Grandmother remarried. In 1884-1885, my G-G-Grandmother Pollard died or was killed under questionable circumstances. Shortly thereafter, her second husband was killed in a fire which destroyed their home. Presently, I am seeking information which connects my Pollard’s with Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s. For example, I am told that my Pollard’s lived in Pollard, Washington: http://extra.entisoft.com/P/o/Pollard.HTM and Walla Walla, Washington: http://www.peak.org/~mransom/pioneers.html during the 19th century. But, so far I have been unable to confirm a genealogical connection with Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s and my Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s. In the meantime, with the aid of my family history, I have found a record of B.F. Pollard (Bastier Pollard?) traveling on the Steamship Texas in New Orleans, Louisiana, on January 16th, 1857. The Steamship Texas was traveling from either New York or California and was on its' way to the San Juans (Havana Cuba) in the West Indies. The ships log indicates that B.F. Pollard may either have been a citizen of the United States or of Germany but the log is not easy for me to read. So, depending on how you read it, the log may read that he was: a U.S. citizen, a German citizen, and that he may possibly have been a lawyer (?). I have had two professional genealogists look up this ship log on microfilm. One says that he was a German lawyer and the other says he was a United States citizen. Anyway, although B.F. Pollard corresponds with my family history, I do not know if he is connected to my Pollard’s; I am simply exploring my a possible lead. Moving right along, Sebastian Pollard is said to have fought in “Napoleons Army” or as they say in French, “L’Armee de Napoleon." By the way, Sebastian is said to have come to the United States with several Generals and a Lieutenant of Napoleons Army: Bernard/Benard, George, Charles, or William. I am also told that my G-G-Grandfather hired three, as yet unidentified, men to purchase land in Early Oregon Territory, the Willamette Valley; totaling one square mile (1609,33m.). My G-G-Grandfather Sebastian Pollard was said to have a cousin in the Texas Army, Calvary or Rangers. And, he was said to have a cousin, Athiela (I do not know the correct spelling but that's what the name sounds like), who died in Florida. The bottom line is that I am seeking any information on: (1) the Pollard surname, (2) Champs d’Asile (Field of Asylum) c. 1818-1819 (Texas), (3) Champs d’Aiglon (Field of Eagles) c. 1818-1819 (Alabama). I welcome any objective information to confirm, deny, or connect my Early Oregon Territory Pioneers. Thank you for your help and your time. Best, Dick Pollard [email protected] http://home1.gte.net/pollard/index.htm P.S., After three years of research, last summer and winter I found some Web sites on the Bonaparte’s in America (W3 search engines are getting better all the time): The Bonaparte’s in Philadelphia: http://www.libertynet.org/athena/bon1.html The Bonaparte’s in America: http://www.heraldica.org/topics/usa/bonapart.htm The Bonaparte’s in Texas: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=20968&query=Jerome+Bonaparte The Beauharnais in the West Indies: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=14480&query=Beauharnais "L.A.McGinnis" wrote: > Think I may be able to help - with recalling my school years taking > French - > as well as connecting to a possible 'cuz' Pollard > line - > > >Any French speakers out there? > > > >RE: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] PHILADELPHIA BONAPARTE's > > did not think Pollard line was French - but may very be. > [ne pense pas Pollard est francais - mais possible] > > > > >>>Je cherche por le patronyme Pollard et le nom Sebastien ou Bastier > >(surnom). C'est le nom de mon g-g-grand pere des Pyrenees a Sud France. > >Mon g-g-grand-pere, Bastier/Sebastian/Sebastien POLLARD est la > >connection -- epellation correct? > > no connection with any but Pollard - see line(s) at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8379/pollard.html > [le connection n'est pas avec Bastier ou Sebastian ou Sebastien mais > Pollard - avez http://www.geocities.com/Heartlans/Fields/8379/pollard.html] > > > > >Je sais qu'il est habite de la rigion des Pyrenees en Sud France dans le > >dix-neuvieme (19e) siecle. Et, je sais qu'il etait ne entre 1790 et > >1815. Et ma famille me dites qu'il etait de la famille > >Bonaparte/Buonaparte; et qu'il etait avec L'Armee de Napoleon. Il est > >venu aux Etats-Unis par New Orleans, Louisiana (USA) entre l'annee 1818 > >(?) et 1857. > > what about 18C? - mine in states by 1750's (Am. Rev.); sure > would like to connect further back. > > [ qu'est-ce que c'est le 18e? - le mien dans l'etats unis par le > revolution; certainement apprecier connection plus eloigne] > > > > >J’ai trouver un record de B.F.Pollard sur la Steamship Texas en New > >Orleans c. Janvier 16, 1857. Il etait en route de San Juans/Havana > >(Cuba dans le West Indies) de New York ou California (USA) -- Texas > >(USA)?. Si’l etait mon g-g-grand pere, le record m’indiquer que mon > >g-g-grand pere arriver de Allemand (aux Etats-Unis) et qu’il etait un > >avocat. Mais le patronyme Pollard n’est pas allemand ou francais, non > >plus. Mais, l’information de son arriver et d'allemand correspondre > >avec l’information de ma famille. > > Pollard isn't then French? - but may be German; mine came from > Britain to states. > [Pollard n'est pas francais? - mais oui est possible allemand; le mien de > Grande-Bretagne a Etats-Unis > ] > > > >Encore, il est venu aux Etats-Unis avec deux Generales et un Lieutenant > >qu'etait dans L'Armee de Napoleon: Bernard, George, Charles, ou > >Guillaume(?) Ou un General est-un Lieutenant qu'etait dans L'Armee de > >Napoleon, aussi bien. C'est importante a dites que mon g-g-grand pere > >donner trois hommes monnaie a acheter terre, un mille (1609,33m.), a > >Early Oregon Territory, mais je pas connais leur noms. Et, c'est > >importante a dites que je sais qu'il a parle: (1) francais, (2) > >allemand, et (3) anglais. > > good - then we can communicate - your dates confuse me; does > your line go back this far? > [bon - alors nous parlons (je parle l'anglais et un peu le francais, mais > retablier de l'ecole jours) - votre dites mon confondre; qu'est-ce que c'est > votre lignee savoir vers connaitre] > > > > >Mais, je n'ai pas: (1) son date de naissance, ou (2) la place de son > >naissance, seulemenet le fact que il est arriver de le Pyrenees a Sud > >France. Mais, je sais qu'il m. Sally/Sallie/Frances (?) Kinder/Kunder > >(pronouncer K’nder) aux Etats-Unis vers 1850-1865 (?) en Pennsylvania, > >Louisiana, ou Early Oregon Territory, USA. Et que sa mere etait Mme. > >Blux, Blue, ou Bilyeu (?). > > migration patterns were longer than this generally - any > information as to religion or ? > [votre dites est bref; qu'est-ce que c'est additionnel information > (religieux) ? - ] > > > > >Et qu’elle avait famille aux Illinois, Canada, New York, et > >Pennsylvania - rechercher m'indiquer que Sally/Sallie/Frances est de > >Pennsylvania (USA). C'est importante a dites que je sais qu'il a parle: > >(1) allemand, et (2) anglais. Bastier/Sebastian/Sebastien, il etait > >entre 70 et 94 ans quand mon G-Grand-pere etait ne en 1871-1872. Alors, > >it etait tres vieux quand il est mort (faire mourir) dans le meme annee > >(1871-1872). > > > >En Amerique, il est habite a Early Oregon Territory: (1) > >Pollard, Washington: http://extra.entisoft.com/P/o/Pollard.HTM -- > >maintenant Republic, Washington, et (6) la Willamette Valley, Oregon. > >Encore, il a un cousin, l’oncle de ma g-g-grand pere, Pollard, aux Texas > >(USA) -- il etait dans L’Armee (Army/Calvary) Americaine a Texas (USA). > > will contact him too > [je suis en contacte aussi] > > > > >Enfin, je suis en train de rechercher mes ancestres. Alors, je recherche > >l'origine du nom de ma famille POLLARD. Est-ce qu'un dirivitif francais > >ou d'un nom anglais? Et, por cette raison je voudrais savoir le > >genealogie de: (1) la famille Bonaparte/Buonaparte - frere, cousin, > >etc., (2) L’Armee de Napoleon - avez vous cette information? et (3) des > >Pyrenees. Comment puis-je les trouver pour progresser dans mes > >recherches? Je vous remercie beaucoup d'avance. Merci de votre aide et > >mercie d'avance. > > > with all the best of wishes to you and yours, > your fellow researcher, > anne-ology > [email protected] > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8379/index.html > > [avec meilleurs voeux a vous > et votre, > votre comarade rechercher, ] > ADAMS - ACTON - AREW - BABCOCK - BARCLAY - BELCHER - BENSON - BEAUFORD - > BEAUMONT - BIGGS - BLOIS(E)/BLOYS(E) - BLOUNT - BREWSTER - BRINTON - BROWN - > BULSTRODE - BURTIS - CARY - CEDARCRAFT - CHAMPL(A)IN - CHAMPLIN - CLARE - > CLARK(E) - CLIFFORD - COLLINS - COLLINS - COOK - DE BEAUFORD - DE BEAUMONT - > DE CLARE - DE CLIFFORD - DE LACIE - DE NEVILLE - DE PERCY - DE QUINCY - > DAUGHERTY - DENISON - ECHINGHAM - ENDICOTT - ENLOES/ENLOWS - FISHER - FITZ > MAURICE - GORHAM - GRIFFITH - HALL - HAZARD - HEART(T) - HENDRECKS - > HOLDBROOK - HOLMES - HOWLAND - HOWSER - HURST - JAYNE - JOHNSON - > KINDLOSSON - LACIE - LAWTON - LEACH - LEWIS - LUDLOW - MARSHALL - MARTIN - > MARTYN - MACMURROUGH - MCGINNIS - MOORE - MOTT - NEVILLE - PERCY - POLLARD - > POTTER - PURRIER - PYLE - QUINCY - RINGWOOD - ROBINSON - ROCKET(T) - RYMER - > SCHENK - SELL - SHARP - (SEVER)SMITH - SILVERTHORNE - SMITH - SMITH - > STANHOPE - TALBOTT - TAYLOR - THATCHER - THOMPSON - THOMPSON - TILLEY - > TYLER - VERMAN DOIS - WALKER - WHEELER - WHITEHEAD - WRIGHT - > WINDSOR/WYNDSOR(E) - - ETC. to Wyndsore, to Plantagenets/d'Anjou , to > Charlemange, to Constantine, to Aedd Mawr, ETC. to Ethelred I, Alfred the > Great, ETC. ETC.

stacks of those in Schuykill County, not sure if that's the same bunch, that's alli know about it.

I have some information on Gladys Zeller m Cletus Bowman, if you are interested. Nancy

I am also interested in BOWMANs. I am posting my line which picks up in Augusta Co. VA, tho I'm pretty sure they were Germans from PA. Descendant Chart for Jacob BOWMAN --------------------------------- 1-Jacob BOWMAN b: ab. Mar 1771, PA, U.S., d: 4 Jun 1835, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. sp:Nancy (UNKNOWN) b: ab. 1771, d: 7 Jun 1849, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. |--2-Jane BOWMAN b: Ab. 1795, PA, U.S. |--2-Henry BOWMAN b: 3 Sep 1797, PA, U.S., d: 12 May 1866, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. |--2-Jacob BOWMAN b: 31 Mar 1802, PA, U.S., d: 19 Jan 1871, Arbor Hill, Augusta Co., VA, U.S. |--2-Sarah BOWMAN d: 18 Nov 1853 |--2-John BOWMAN b: 9 Apr 1808, VA, U.S., d: 18 Apr 1866, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. |--2-Joseph BOWMAN b: ab. 1808, VA, U.S., d: 3 Sep 1835, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. |--2-Nancy BOWMAN b: ab. Oct 1810, VA, U.S., d: 6 Jan 1865, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. |--2-William H. BOWMAN b: ab. 1812, VA, U.S., d: ab. 1897 |--2-George BOWMAN b: Ab. 1815, Augusta Co., VA, U.S., d: 14 Oct 1869, Boone Co., IN, U.S. |--2-Christian BOWMAN b: 15 Jun 1816, VA, U.S., d: 30 Jan 1902, Boone Co., IN, U.S. |--2-Edward BOWMAN b: 11 Jul 1820, VA, U.S., d: 23 Jul 1895, Montgomery Co., IN, U.S. These Bowmans married into the following families: TRIMBLE, ERHARDT, CLEMMER, BELL, LOOP, BECK, and GARNER. Regards, Pegeen

In a message dated 1/20/99 2:55:04 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [email protected] writes: > ylvia, > Please look at sept 19 1743 ship lydia for Philip Hager (Heager) > and see if there were any one with him. His will states that > John "my oldest son whom I got by my first wife is to receive 5 > pounds as his birth right" we have not found who his first wife > was or if John was born in Germany or here. > Thank in advance. I do appreciate this. > > Bryce Hager > To see our line of Hager's goto: I would like if I got the lookup requests privately, it is easier for me. None in either book, looked up both spellings. Sylvia

The message that made passing reference to the Howeter surname caught my eye. Beckie Howeter (20 Oct 1777 [where?] - 20 Nov 1862 [Freeburg, Snyder Co PA]) married Christopher Moyer (1776 [Campbelltown, Lebanon Co PA] - 11 June 1840 [Freeburg]; both buried in old Lutheran/Reformed cemetery, Freeburg. If anyone can provide information or guide me toward information on this Beckie Howeter and her background, I'd be most grateful. Cordially, Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

karl nothing on howeter, but was wondering about moyer. one of my gggrandfathers was a moyer ; joseph b. abt 1824 most of the family lived in va. but i don't know when they came. they lived around luray(page co) va. abt 1900 or so most returned north . any help would be appreciated jim ---------- > > The message that made passing reference to the Howeter surname > caught my eye. > > Beckie Howeter (20 Oct 1777 [where?] - 20 Nov 1862 [Freeburg, > Snyder Co PA]) married Christopher Moyer (1776 [Campbelltown, Lebanon Co > PA] - 11 June 1840 [Freeburg]; both buried in old Lutheran/Reformed > cemetery, Freeburg. > > If anyone can provide information or guide me toward information > on this Beckie Howeter and her background, I'd be most grateful. > > Cordially, > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Do a good turn for another and see what comes back... > >

Hi Gail Thanks for your reply. The Muth's are a new area I am researching. So don't have much information. Will keep what you sent for ture reference, Judy homepage http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 [email protected] wrote: > > I too am looking for Muth's. The line I am searching is Daniel B. (1844 - > 1914), Archibald Daniel (1891 - 1966), Earl L. (1913 - 1990). I do think I > know all their siblings (from family bible) and the closest we come to a > William is Archie's brother Harvey William born 1896 & generally called > Harvey, so at least at this level I do not think there is a connection for > you, but I do not know Daniel's parents not the wives & children of his > siblings nor the children of Archie's siblings, so there is lots of room for > possibility here. This family was primarily in the Schnectsville area, through > 1920s or so but dissipated throughout the Lehigh Valley over the years I am > told, though Archie lived the last 20 yrs or so in New Smithville area in > Berks County. > Families - MUTH, RINGER, SALEM > Good luck. Keep me in mind if you do find a connection. > > [email protected] > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Subscribe [email protected] wrote: > Sorry to post this to the entire list but I have lost track of just which > subscribers are involved here. > > Some time ago I sent a note to all Hotmail subscribers to our lists who were > receiving Digests to let them know that Hotmail was having serious problems > handling list digests and they were not arriving in a readable manner. At > that time I manually changed all Hotmail list subscribers from Digest to mail > mode. > > I have now received notice that Hotmail has fixed the digest problem. If > anyone who is subscribed with Hotmail would like me to put them back on Digest > mode and remove them from mail mode they may contact me privately. > > Thanks! > > Joan > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. -- John L. Getz, Jr. MD Jo Getz 266 Egret Lane Vero Beach, FL 32963-2623 Ph. 561-234-5364 [email protected] Genealogy Hobbyist, 11 years, Anxious to share and compare. 35,000 + names linked in database. Mostly from Germany, Switzerland, Pennsylvania, York County at least in the beginning. GETZ- BARBEHENN- LANIUS/LAUNIUS- HOFF- GROFF/GROVE- BUSER/BUSSER- STRAUSBAUGH,- REISINGER- BORTNER- ILGENFRITZ- MOHR- BATDORF- WALBORN- KOPPENHAFER- MORAVIAN/CHURCH- AND OF COURSE MANY MORE.

Hi! I am seeking Peter ARNOLD who may have arrived in PA on the Ship Lydia in the late 1740s from Alsace, Germany. Thank you very much! Cathy Martin ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Please excuse me for sending this to the whole newsletter. Nancy, I typed some information for you but It keeps coming back to me with a invalid address. Do you know why? Thanks Nora [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] Pennsylvania surnames> BORTZ ,REINTZHEIMER, KROMER, ECT >Hi. I am interested in the Yeagers of Cincinnati. They had a tailor shop. >They were my gggrandparents. I know a Hinkel family, friends of ours. From >Michigan. In OH. Thanks. Nancy > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > >

Sylvia: Thank you very much for the information on John Michael - now I have an additional spelling of the surname - Waegelin. Barbara Wegley Anderson

>From PA ARCHIVES, 5th Series Vol. 1, "Officers and Soldiers Province of Pennsylvania - 1744-1765." pg. 41-42. STATION OF THE PROVINCIAL FORCES - JUNE, 1756: Reading - Lieut. Col. WEISER's company. Fort at North Kill - (Fort above Alleminga) - Lieut. Engle, Sergeant and 16 men of Capt. John MORGAN's company. Fort Lebanon - Capt. MORGAN's Militia detachment. Fort Henry - Capt. Christian BUSSE. Fort Allen, at Gnadenhutten - Lieut. Jacob MEAS with 25 men of Capt. Chas. FOULK's company. Fort Norris - Capt. Jacob ORNDT and 21 men. [Hyndshaw Fort] - Lieut. James HYNDSHAW, of Capt. WETTERHOLT's company Wind Gap - Ensign Daniel HARRY, of Capt. WETTERHOLT's company. Nazareth Mill - Capt. ENSLEE, Ensign ENSLEE and 24 men. Lehigh Gap, north side - Sergeant and 8 men. Fort Hamilton - Lieut. ____?____ and 15 men. Dupui's - Capt, WETTERHOLT's company. Harris's - Sergeant ___?____ and 12 men. Hunter's Fort - Ensign Johnson and 24 men. McKee's Store - Ensign MEARS and 24 men. Fort Halifax - Capt. Nathaniel MILES and 30 men. Captain Frederick SMITH's Company "In the HOLE", at Moravian House - 8 men. "Fort under the Hill" - 24 men. Manity [Manada] Fort - Lieut. MILLER and 16 men. Jacob ELLIS and James BROWN killed by Indians, Aug. 6, 1756. (a.) Captain Christian BUSSE's Company "At Berhard FRIEDLI's next to the Moravians" - 10 men. "At Casper SNEBELIE's" - 8 men. "At Daniel SHUE's or Peter KLOP's - 6 men. ************************************************************ Ann Rickard, SC