Word is that portions of Family Search will be available online as soon as Monday. It will be in a testing period for a time. IBM is serving this out of Chicago. The url will be: http://www.familysearch.org It is not available yet so don't try. Start trying on Monday. I'll see if I can nail down the time better as to when on Monday it will be available. I used to work on this project before going to work for AT&T in December. Thanks! Don Hartman FamilyHart

I am interested in finding more about Elizabeth GROFF born July 31, 1845 in Lancaster County, PA. She married Samuel W. Mohler (Born July 4, 1850) on January 11, 1874. They stayed in the area for some time and had most of their children there. They moved to Nebraska where the most of the children grew up. Elizabeth and Samuel were Dunkards and German was their primary language. Elizabeth died May 17, 1935 in NE, Samuel died December 4, 1943 in NE. Interested in trying to find others researching the GROFFs. Thanks, Gail Holdeman [email protected]

Hi folks .... Came across the description of a man's skills as both a blacksmith and a whitesmith. This was in the early 1800's in Western Penna. Any clues to what whitesmith means? Dick Searching KREBS (and derivative spellings) from early Pennsylvania. Have lots of information to share on many family lines.

History of Kentucky and Kentuckians Page 657 & 358 a full sized photo of Ben L. Bruner is also on a page. Ben L. Bruner, Secretary of State, to which he was elected on the Republican ticket, November 5, 1907; for a term of four years, is a native son of Kentucky and a man of typically American antecedents, his forbears having served in every American war of importance. The career of this statesman and physician should prove an inspiration to every youth to whom fortune has been chary in the bestowal of her favors, for he is a self made man of the beast type, having risen unaided from position of a street car driver to his present office. He was born at Clarkson , Grayson Co., January 16,1872, and is the son of the Hon. Peter S. Bruner, who was likewise a native Grayson County, born within it's present limits on the day preceding Christmas, 1838. Peter S. Bruner was the son of Peter and Rachael (Evans) Bruner, the former of whom saw the light of day at Danville, in 1792. he was a soldier in the way of 1812. His Father, Dr. Bruner's greatgrandfather, whose name was John Bruner was a native of Pennsylvania, of Dutch ancestry, and was a Soldier of the Revolutionary War. Hon. Peter S. Bruner, like those of his family who had gone before him, came speedily to the aid of his country at the breaking out of the Civil war , and served as a soldier in the union ranks throughout it;s progress. He enlisted as a private in company 1, Third Kentucky Calvary, rose to the rank of second lieutenant of his company, and at the close of the war was breveted first lieutenant for conspicuous service. He was elected a member of the house of representatives from Grayson county as a republican and served during the "long legislature" of 1891-3, with credit and distinction. The mother of Dr. Bruner bore the maiden name of Mary Rogers. She was born in Leitchfield, Grayson County, Kentucky, and her father was the hon. Ben L. Rogers (in whose honor the subject is named) who was a county judge and a son of Jacob Rogers, a Native of Virginia and a Kentucky pioneer. Thus he is descended not only from Revolutionary stock, but from old Kentucky families on both paternal and maternal sides, and in his veins course a mixture of German, English, Welsh, and Scotch-Irish blood. Ben L. Bruner was reared on his father's farm, as has been the lot of so many prominent men as to make it almost the rule, and in his youth experienced what the average farmer's son experienced in farm work, ---saw logging, plowing and engaging in other strenuous occupation. He first attended the common schools, then first attended Millerstown Academy, then Leitchfield Seminary and finally, graduated from Sweetwater College, Sweetwater Tennessee, when twenty- one years of age. For a time he led a diversified existence, trying his hand as a pedagogue, clerking in a mereantile establishment and finally becoming a traveling commercial salesman. By reason of having at one time served in this capacity he later became a member of the Travelers Protective Association of America, in which he has been prominent for years, having been a delegate to many national conventions of the association. In 1893, shortly before the attainments of his majority, Dr Bruner paid adieux to home scenes and went to Louisville where he drove a street car, and in his fashion worked his way through medical college. In 1897 he graduated from the hospital Medical College, medical department of Central University and the following year, at the inception of the Spanish-American war, he heeded the inherited thrill of patriotism in his breast and enlisted as a private in Company M, Third Kentucky Regiment, and was immediately promoted to the office of first lieutenant and assistant surgeon of the Fourth Regiment, Kentucky Infantry, United Sates Volunteers. He remained in the army service one year. and receiving an honorable discharge, returned to Kentucky. Dr. Bruner now located at Hardyville, in Hart County, where he hung out his shingle and practiced his profession for five years. In 1904 he remove to Louisville, and has ever since that time resided in Kentucky's largest city. His first political office was bestowed upon him while he was in Hart co. being nominated by the Republicans as candidate fir the legislature and being elected as representative from that county in the year 1902. In 1907 he became the Republican nominee for secretary of state, to which office he was elected on November 7th of that year, for a term of four years beginning January 1, 1908. As secretary of state, Dr. Burner has rendered felling service in behalf of the commonwealth, and in splendid manner has improved the administration of affairs in that office. Among his most momentous accomplishments has been the strengthening of affairs relative to corporations and the banking department. He was the First State official to move into quarters in the new capitol, removing from the old building some seven weeks in advance of any other state official. >From every early period in life Dr. Bruner has been active in political affairs. As early as sixteen he made campaign speeches and engaged in joint debate with leaders in of the Democratic party. Not alone to Kentucky have his political efforts been confined, for being a forceful and effective campaign speaker his services have been called into requisition in other States. Liberal and generous as he has always been, and yet a man of earnest conviction, he has won favor with the populace and has a political following perhaps second to no other leader in the republican party in Kentucky. Noted for untiring energy and indefatigable determination, he does not know the word "fail." and with characteristic pluck he has forged his way to the front in life. Dr. Bruner is a popular and much desired lodge man and his fraternal afflictions extend to the Masonic order, in which he holds the Thirty-second degree, and is a Knight Templar and a member of the Mystic Shrine. In his profession he hold membership in the Hart County Kentucky State Medical Societies, and in the American Medical Association. He is President of the Transylvania Casualty Insurance Company of Louisville On April 30, 1891, Dr. Bruner joined the ranks of the Benedicts, wedding Miss Anna Blanche Burner the daughter of the Rev. Issac W. Bruner, a prominent minister of the Baptist Church, and they have had five children: Walter Lewis, Mary Rogers, Mabyl Blanche , Ben L. Jr. (deceased) and Issac Simeon

Looking for the birth records of the 13 children of Henry Yetter and Fannie Hoover. Any Help would be appreciated.

We have always stressed on our mailing lists that it is important to have a specific descriptive subject line for our messages and that we should keep this subject line in subsequent discussions on the same topic, and additionally that we should remember to change the subject when changing the topic of discussion. We have also stressed the importance for Digest Mode subscribers to delete the meaningless "Re: XXXXXXXX-D Digest V99 #5," which automatically is placed there when hitting the reply to button, from the subject line of a message and to insert the proper subject. This only takes a few seconds to do when you get in the habit of doing it. There is a new and I think rather exciting reason why subject lines are about to become far more important than ever on our lists. I don't think I am letting the cat out of the bag if I tell you that the folks at RootsWeb are in the finishing stages of working on a new type of archives for the mailing lists. It is an HTML TREADED archives. I have been playing around with this archiving method while it has been in beta testing and I must tell you it is a vast improvement over the sometimes unwieldy "form based" method of archiving list messages that is now used. The archives for this list are presently a part of the testing for this new archives (but not yet ready for Prime Time and public usage) but I do think it is time to stress again just how very important the subject line is in using this new archives in a search. Let's face it, all of us post messages to a list in hopes of connecting with others to either share information or to find someone who can help us in learning more information on a subject. Half of that battle is putting a subject line that will help those who might connect in some way with your message to find the message in the first place. And starting NOW subject lines are even more important than ever before. I hear people say: "I posted my query to the list many times and never got a reply." If you are one of those people consider your subject lines as possibly contributing to that problem. Of course the message must also be specific and to the point. Remember the rules of good journalism--the same apply to genealogy. Ask yourself: Who? When? What? Where? and Why? Try to include each of those in your message and as much as possible in your subject. Thanks! Joan

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Hi Jon: I have these "Grandparents" in my Family Tree...but I know almost nothing about them....can you help me? I am out the door to work but will send what little I have tonight if you send me another e-mail to "jog" my memory!!! Thanks and nice to meet you!!!! Jan Lund -----Original Message----- From: SPIDERB <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 3:20 PM Subject: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] May 12, 1722 ship >I am trying to find the name of the ship which brought CHRISTIAN & MARIA >BOMBERGER and family to Pennsylvania. The date given was May 12, 1722. >If someone can direct me I would appreciate it. > > Thanks , Jon Bamberger >

I am trying to find the name of the ship which brought CHRISTIAN & MARIA BOMBERGER and family to Pennsylvania. The date given was May 12, 1722. If someone can direct me I would appreciate it. Thanks , Jon Bamberger

Centre and Franklin, Co. PA HENNEY, HENNIG, SANDS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] Moving back to PA >Hi What part of Pa. are your people from? Mine are from the beautiful Central >part of Pa.; altho in early times they came into Franklin, Chester, and Berks >counties. > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >Abbreviations---PD=Pennsylvania Dutch, PMH=Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage magazine, MFH=Mennonite family History magazine, MRJ=Mennonite Research Journal, LMHS=Lancaster Mennonite Hist. Society. >

Hi, Anyone know what a "bleo" (somekind of bed) was???? Found it in a will from the early 1700's. Maybe you can tell me if there is a page that tells about old words. Carolyn

OOOPS..... also meant to say that I have Millers in my line. (Centre County) Dottie

Hi What part of Pa. are your people from? Mine are from the beautiful Central part of Pa.; altho in early times they came into Franklin, Chester, and Berks counties.

Shelly, You are so lucky to be going back to PA. This has been a dream of mine for years. My family is all in PA and I'm stuck here in IL. Judy Lear Douglas [email protected] Researching LEAR, TANTLINGER, DEEMER, RODDY, RIFFLE, DONAHUE, NICEWONGER, SHUNK, LAPE, SEYBOTH/SEYBOLD, MILLER, SNYDER On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:33:57 EST [email protected] writes: >I need to unsubscribe for two months as I am moving from Florida back >to >Pennsylvania to be with my family. I will subscribe when I get >settled up >there. > > Shelly > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? >Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname >query you haven't posted in a while. > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

"was willst du hawwe" When I looked at the above, knowing no Pennsylvania Dutch or German, it looks like "What will you have?".....doesn't it!!!! Jan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 5:17 PM Subject: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] Wos Wit >I believe that the phrase wos wit is a slight corruption of the phrase "was >willst" or "was willst du hawwe" meaning to agree with "Pa Dutch Bill" : what >do you want. Willst from the verb "wollen": want, wish , desire. > > Pa Dutch Glenn in Lititz >

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I need to unsubscribe for two months as I am moving from Florida back to Pennsylvania to be with my family. I will subscribe when I get settled up there. Shelly

I believe that the phrase wos wit is a slight corruption of the phrase "was willst" or "was willst du hawwe" meaning to agree with "Pa Dutch Bill" : what do you want. Willst from the verb "wollen": want, wish , desire. Pa Dutch Glenn in Lititz

Dennis O. Gehris, Ed.D. wrote: > > >Dennis, Just a guess but might Wos Wit actually translate to "what's >with > you?" which would in effect have the meaning of "what do you >want?" > > > >Joan > > I thought of that also. However, the Pa. Dutch (German) word for "with" is > "mit", as it also is in high German. Any other ideas from anyone? > > /Dennis/ Dennis, Joan, et al - I don't know much about that dialect but I think I have seen other things printed in it with 'wit' meaning 'with'. It may be what happened as the dialect drifted away from the High German (mit) but hadn't yet reached English (with). That is a guess and not a very educated one. The other thing I wondered is how are you all so sure it has a translatable meaning at all, could it just be a brand name like Coca-Cola or Exxon that just means itself? Jan