But I only have five left for sale. Thanks though. That will be wonderful. Attached is copy of flyer. It has all the information you should need. Also my sister and I and another lady are about to go to press with another book. I will let you know then. Pat Kratz "THE DESCENDANTS OF JOHANN BALTHASER GETZ and MARY MARGRETHA GETZ" BY SHIRLEY CAMPBELL RAMOS and PATRICIA CAMPBELL KRATZ This book details the arrival of the first Getz in America in 1753 and his employment as teacher in Northampton County Pennsylvania. They were the parents of George Conrad Getz and Johann George Getz. Described are the families of George Conrad and Johann George and their many descendants as the family spread from Pennsylvania to Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Kansas, Texas, Colorado and California as well as other states. Included are full sections on the authors related families with the surnames of Weiss, Philman, Kurtz and Campbell. There are also listed many families with the names of Altemose, Borger, Burger, Carroll, Frable, Kreger, Kresge, Mikesell, Serfass, Shupp, Silfies, and Smale. The book includes an every name index and can be a useful tool in research of this large family. COST: $32.00 (Post paid) ORDER FROM: PAT KRATZ 2801 E.P. True Pkwy. #101 West Des Moines, IA 50265

To all: If any of you have put together family books that you are selling, I would be happy to reference those on our website with your email address and/or address and/or whatever information within reason that you would like to explain your book. Just send me privately and I will get it online as soon as possible. One note, the family must be of Pennsylvania Dutch origin. I will place them in a Privately Published Family Books section (yet to be placed online) on the Pennsylvania Dutch Family History site at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~padutch/ Thanks! Don

Thank you for the info on the names. It does help a little, to at least have some idea. I think I will go to library today and see what they have to offer in the way of books with surname meanings. KB

Nora, Have you been in contact with George Lint of Niceville. FL? He heads the LINT family research group and has amassed much information on the LINTs and related families. His e-mail address is [email protected] If you are using Family Tree Maker, you can obtain a file from George that contains the collective efforts of many LINT family researchers (and there are a bunch of us!). The family that you seek is documented in that collection. It looks like your Rosa Ann (as the name is shown in my records) who married John Peter Hay is a niece of my 2nd great grandmother, Catherine (Katie) LINT Sanner, wife of Ludwig SANNER. Katie and her brother,Conrad J., father of Rosa Ann, were the children of John LINT and Elizabeth WALTERS. I know nothing more on the WALTERS line but have the LINT family back to their beginnings in this country. Mary Powell [email protected]

In a message dated 99-03-19 14:51:55 EST, you write: > Could anyone tell me whether these names are PA Dutch and what they mean. > They are names I am researching and so far I haven't been able to come up > with > the meaning of the surname. Maybe I am not looking in the right place. I > have been told by family that we are PA Dutch. Kathy, I would say they CAN be--not necessarily that they ARE. Redman can be English Quaker--we had a large family in early West Jersey Quaker records named Redman. However, there is also a Hans Redman listed in Strassburger and Hinke ship lists, Pa. German Pioneers, vol. 1, page 395-arrived in Phila. 2 Sept. 1749 on the Ship Albany. I find no Mounts/z but there could be other alternate spellings. I find a Gottfried Zepernick in vol. 1, page 740-arrived 29 Dec. 1772 in Phila. on the Ship Minerva. Joan

This isn't mine I'm just forwarding it: <<I received this from another rootsweb list and thought I would forward it to the Andersons. Recently a listmember posted a brief note about the LDS site, and I responded back to him personnally that another list had been batting around a lot of rumors about the site, even one about it actually being a commercial site, playing off the LDS reputation. I'm afraid that I may have offended him, but only meant to pass on to him what I had seen on another list. But, as I pull crow feathers from my teeth, I forward this on knowing it will be good news to all of us: ------------------------- Hello Fellow Researchers, I have been bombarded with questions on the Family Search Website and would like to pass on to you the information I received when I spoke to an "Official" Church spokesperson at Family Search. He advised me of the following: The OFFICIAL LDS Church website   is     LDS.ORG Go to media resources and find News update. The church is posting updates as they come in as to the state of the family search. Within 3 or 4 minutes of the NEWS UPDATE ANNOUNCING the FAMILY SEARCH is online. They will post it THERE! SO Keep checking. Should be a couple of days. It will be a MASSIVE SITE. They are prepared to test this site using anyone who wishes to go to it and use it.   THERE WILL BE NO PASSWORD TO ACCESS IT. The rumor about the password was incorrect. When the site was put up it was restricted to a few....about 100 people who designed it and are putting the finishing touches on it, someone there LEAKED, YES LEAKED, (AN EMPLOYEE) and that is why some of you got in. When the masses bombarded the site it crashed cause it was not finished. They have now given each worker an INDIVIDUAL PASSWORD, SOOOOO IF it gets leaked again they will know who did it. It has been postponed being put online a few days because of the crash. There are now about 12 popular stories going around about Family Search. I ASSURE YOU MINE CAME FROM A CHURCH SPOKESMAN. IF you pass information about the site on to others please just send them this message I have sent you. The whole message. Now please remember this. 1. Go to LDS.org 2. Find Media Resources 3. Check News Updates That will inform you when it is going online. Please notify everyone you know who will be interested. I hope this helps you all. You have my permission to pass this note on to any Genealogy Lists you wish. Again, Please pass the whole note not just sections of it or we will have more rumors. Thanks, Karen Gaughan in Pa. [email protected]>>

Could anyone tell me whether these names are PA Dutch and what they mean. They are names I am researching and so far I haven't been able to come up with the meaning of the surname. Maybe I am not looking in the right place. I have been told by family that we are PA Dutch. Thank you, Kathy Baus

Seeking information on the John Peter Hay and Rosanna Lint of Pennsylvania. Their son Conrad Hay was born 10 May, 1854 in Summerset County, Pennsylvania. He married Susanna Boarts in January, 1875 in Berlin, Pennsylvania. Can anyone help me? Nora [email protected]

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To ALL: I am deeply sorry that I must send the following but we have had some problems as of late that need to be corrected. The archives are for the private use of our members for personal research. Copies of these email are not to be sent thither and yawn to anybody at any time without the permission of the sender. We have had some people abusing the archives of late and causing problems by sending copies to people and having them taken out of context. This has caused some very sore feelings. One of the rules of these lists is that we will be civil and considerate of others. May I please remind you of this guideline. If you follow that, we should have no problems. Please don't make me do anymore than this warning. Please get along! Thanks! Don Hartman PADUTCHgenONLY list moderator PENNA-DUTCH list moderator

The Lds site requires a password, so that they won't get swamped and it is for the upper crust I'm sure, who ever they are.

Sorry I got that terrible flu and could do lookups I'm not the best yet, but do have you mail, will look up when I feel better, I'd had it for 4 weeks, but that the last two weeks were terrible.

Sorry folks I forgot to take off my HTML my apologies. Nora

So many have tried to help me with lookups. I never had much to give back. But I do have a copy of this old map of Fauquier and Loudoun Counties showing Nmaes with some dates of land grants etc. dating back to the early to mid 1700"s. So thought I could share if anyone was interested. Some where and they were nice. Some were not so nice. The map was Drawn by Meade Palmer from information supplied by Curtis Chappelear, Esq. A.D. 1953 These appear to be in Loudound County, East of Paris, VA. Wm. Thompson Geo. Russell Robt. Thompson Richard Watts William Wood John Davis 1752 Joseph Milner William Fitzhugh John Warner's Grant, 1742 Clarke County Leeds Manor Ambrose Walden appears to be on the border toFauquier Co. east of Blue Ridge Fauquier County Appear to be around "Collins Br. Run"' West of Lost Mountain John Young 1769 Avoca, appear to be in Blue Ridge Mountains Sky Farm, appear to be in Blue Ridge mountains Geo. Edmonds, appear to be in Blue Ridge Mountains Kimball Hicks, 1768 Edw. Wisely, could be in Geo. Washington Purchase of 1768 very close Thos. Slater, " " " Wm. Dulin, " " " Francis Ballenger, 1774, " " Jos. Ballenger 1774, " " Isroel Morris, 1769, " " Peter Romine, 1769, " " John Carr, " " Names and dates as they appeared hope it helps someone bob e

If any of you are researching the Queener family of Tennessee, noted family historian, Paul LeMaster is working on a family genealogy book. He would like to hear from you at: Paul LeMaster 643 DeArmond Road Kingston, TN 37763

Sorry for any problems. Just a slow two finger typest so did it in my WP Word. I downloaded it and opened it ok. Not sure if you do not have WORD. Let me know if you can't open it or if you do whether it is worth the effort. I will be away for a few days but might be able to re type it this evening bob e

When posting replies, could you please use the name of the person to whom you're replying? Makes it easier to track the conversation!! Thanks.

If anyone has Bob Howard's e-mail address, I would appreciate it. [email protected] is bouncing. Thanks in advance, Bob Maley

This gathering will be held in the Slate Belt/ Lehigh Valley in Pen Argyl Pa thus it's "American" all "Heinz 57" varieties are welcome. As a friend of mine in Slatington says: It took the Dutch to find the Slate [ it was in their fields unwanted ! ] It took the Welsh to open the quarries [ they rounded up the money] And it took the "Hunks" to show them how to quarry. [ Well... ] COME ONE, COME ALL 10TH GATHERING OF CORNISH COUSINS July 28 29 30 31 August 1 1999 PENNSYLVANIA - CORNWALL ASSOCIATION ANNOUNCES THE DATES OF THE FIRST GATHERING ON THE EAST COAST OF THE CORNISH AMERICAN HERITAGE SOCIETY THE 10TH GATHERING WILL BE HELD IN THE SLATE BELT REGION OF PENNSYLVANIA. OUR CORNISH ANCESTORS CAME TO THIS REGION TO WORK IN THE SLATE QUARRIES. JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE REGION ARE THE COAL FIELDS THAT ALSO BROUGHT WORKERS FROM ENGLAND AND TO THE EAST IS NEW JERSEY, HOME OF THE ZINC MINES. TOURS WILL BE PLANNED TO COVER THESE REGIONS DURING YOUR STAY IN THE AREA. WE ALSO HOPE TO OFFER A TOUR AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE GATHERING TO ELLIS ISLAND SO THOSE INTERESTED CAN VISIT WHERE MANY ARRIVED IN THIS NEW COUNTRY. THE SLATE BELT IS SITUATED JUST 90mi FROM NEW YORK CITY ,70mi FROM PHILADELPHIA, AND 60mi FROM AMISH COUNTRY. THIS IS AN IDEAL AREA TO PLAN AN EXTENDED VACATION WHILE INCLUDING THE GATHERING IN YOUR PLANS. Since we promised to keep those interested informed as we go along, we would like to offer a tentative schedule, subject to change. Wednesday, July 28 9:30 - 5:00 - Tour Day - Your choice of one of four tours to be included with your registration fee. Probable choices are : Coal region, Slate region, New Jersey Mines, or Crayola and Martin guitar factory tours. 6:00 - Registration and Hospitality 7:00 Entertainment Thursday,July 29 8:30 - CASH Board Meeting 9:00 - Registration 10:00 - 12:00 - Opening Ceremony 1:30 - 3:00 - Small Group Sessions ie "how to workshops" many subjects. 3:15 - 4:45 - Small Group Sessions 5:00 - High Tea 7:00 - Crowdy Crawn Friday, July 30 Registration continues 9:00 - 10.30 - Small Group Sessions 10:45 - 12.15 - Small Group Sessions 2:00 - 5:00 - An afternoon of relaxation at Columcille. A park where there are standing stones, a lovely chapel, trails to roam,and we will provide soothing entertainment followed by a Bard ceremony to close the afternoon. 5:30 - 7.00 - Pasty Picnic 7:00 - Lowender Saturday, July 31 9:00 - 12.00 - CAHS Annual General Meeting 1:00 - Slate Belt Cornish Minstrels - 7:00 - Banquet Sunday, Aug. 1 10:00 - Church Service followed by Brunch 1:30 - Closing Board Meeting Monday, Aug. 2 A trip to Ellis Island will be offered for those who would like to go at an additional cost to the registration fee. This will be your chance to see if your ancestors arrived in this country thru this immigration center. More information? Fred Doney [email protected] or Carolyn Bray [email protected]

Hello, I am new to this list. Is anyone researching CRANEs and would have a Wesley CRANE in their database? He married Sadie LAMOREUX in Luz. Co. Family tradition says these CRANEs were PA Dutch, but we have no proof. If anyone recognizes these people, please contact me. TIA Barbara