Hi all, Some very interesting information from Julie and Alan. Regards, Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: Julie & Alan Penfold To: Trevor Penfold (Genealogy) Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: Kent Penfolds Dear Trevor, could the information below be passed on to the List for those researching the Kent Penfold. This is the Goudhurst, Marden, Westerham and other Kent areas. They relate to the descendants of Thomas Penville 1646. Richard Penfold/Penville 1699 and other names which include Catherine Fuller, Mary Buss, Elizabeth Thompsom which I know some are researching. As you may know Alan works on our Daily News paper here in NZ and one of our sleuth reporters is at present in UK and we have been fortunate to have her spend a lot of time at the Records Office in London. This is what she has discovered and sent because we are searching for Walter Penfold - So in a line going back we have Walter 1873, father William 1846, father Edward 1821, father John 1795, father William 1769, father Richard 1724 and thence back to when they become Penville Half Half Brothers and sisters of Walter Penfold In the 1891 census, the family was still living at High St, Marden. William (44) builder, b. Goudhurst but he was now a widower. Children: Walter, 17, hotel porter Herbert, 15, bricklayer's labourer, Annie, 13, housekeeper, Emily, 11, scholar, Thomas, 7, scholar I'm not sure where Frank had gone, but by 1901 he was back living with his Dad and his new brothers and sister. Still at High St, Marden: So 10 years on - Remarried William, 54, master carpenter and builder (listed as an employer). Charlotte, 48, his wife. Frank William, 29, single (so he hadn't been off getting married), journeyman bricklayer. Thomas, 17, also a journeyman bricklayer. Nellie, 6, daughter. Alfred, 5, son. Harry, 3, son. You'll notice there are some children missing. Emily, 21, was a housemaid for Mary A. Cureton, a widow of 70, living at High St, Cranbrook, Kent. Also in the household were Mary Cureton, the widow's daugher; Minnie Stamford (cook), and Edith Smith (also a housemaid). Annie, 23, was also working as a domestic servant, but she was a nursemaid for the Shelley family at Willow Grove, Willowcroft, Chislehurst. She took some creative thinking to find, because her surname was listed as Penford in thecensus. It's very odd that she was a nursemaid, because the youngest child in the household was 14. Perhaps someone was ill, but no infirmity (like yourgreat-gran's deafness) was listed by the enumerator. The head of the household was Percy Bysshe Shelley, aged 57. He's not the poet (who would have been something like 157 in 1901), and he's not a direct descendant, because the poet's sons both died in childhood. I suspect he was just an opportunist. Also in the householdwere Charlotte (Mrs Shelley), Wilfred PB Shelley (Percy Bysshe, I'll bet),17, Edith MB Shelley, 15, Lewis W. Shelley, 14, (all listed as his children) Evriene Wigram, 30, listed as niece of the head of the household, plus a cook and a parlourmaid. Percy's occupation was given as bill! broker. I checked with the 1881 census and he was a plain old accountant then. I also found your grandad. He was boarding at South View, Westerham. He was 27 and gave his occupation as railway ... (Maybe the enumerator couldn't spell "porter", or "engineer"?). The head of the household was Ernest Sharpcott, 28, a railway warehouseman. His wife, Sophia, was 30. They had a four-year-old daughter called Robert (that's what it says). Harry Dixon, 21, also a railway???6=-i... was also boarding there. Elizabeth Penfold died on August 28, 1888. I have certificate, and will bring it with me in Jan. Details: Elizabeth Penfold died High St, Marden. Wife of William Penfold, builder. Cause: Lung disease, six months. Death registered by her niece, Fannie or Frannie Luck, of High St, Marden. Have found no trace of Herbert in the deaths, so he probably did emigrate or die fighting abroad. I'm not sure what resources there are for finding Boer War deaths, but I'll check it out. Have also searched without success for the marriage of William and his second wife, Charlotte, but no luck. May need to get the birth certificate for one of their kids to check out Charlotte's details on that, but that will have to wait until after January. In 1871, the Penflods were at Marden. Head: Edward Penfold, 57, bricklayer and coal merchant, b.Goudhurst. Francis (that's how the enumerator spelt it), wife, 48, b. Goudhurst. William, son, 24, bricklayer, b.Goudhurst. Emma, daughter, 13, no occupation, b. Marden. Just down the road were: Henry Penfold, 44, bricklayer, b.Goudhurst. Jane, 43, b. Goudhurst. Henry, 23, bricklayer, b. Goudhurst. Horace, 18, bricklayer, b. Marden. Louisa, 12, scholar, b. Marden (all Marden from here). Frederick, 10, scholar. Fanny, 9, scholar. Walter, 3. Olive, 2. Then there was another household: William J. or I. Penfold, 27, agricultural labourer, b. Goudhurst. Fanny Penfold, his wife, 27, also b.Goudhurst. Past the pub (Unicorn Inn) there were: John Penfold, 21, bricklayer, b. Goudhurst, and Caroline E. (?) Penfold, his wife,also 21 and b. Goudhurst. There weren't any house numbers, but Edward's house was somewhere between the workhouse and Jewel House; Henry's between Jewel House and Howland House; William's between Howland House and the Unicorn Inn. What happened between 1848 and 1853 that drove all the bricklaying Penfolds out of Goudhurst? Did it flood? Did the brick kiln collapse? If you think this may be of interest - we are happy to share it. Regards Julie & Alan