Hello Julie Thank you for checking that info out for me. It is rather a strange feeling to suddenly lose five generations of ancestors whom I had got used to as thinking of as my own. Still maybe I will find that I will still connect back into them via a different line. Regards Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Martin" <julie@housemartin.f9.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Penfold] John Penfold born abt. 1768 > Hi Brian, Joy and all > > Think the John Brian is thinking of was the son of William and Jane > (Mann) who was a farmer at Ifield in 1841 and 1851. If so, he married > two Mary's, Mary Adams 1796 and Mary Brown 1810. Sorry this doesn't > help you Joy. > > Best wishes > Julie Martin > > brian bloomfield wrote: > > > Hi Joy, > > There's a JOHN PENFOLD b 1771 in Crawley d 1855 Ifield, Sussex who married > > a MARY b 1785/6 Charlwood, Surrey (no surname) d 1866 Ifield Sussex > > Any good? > > Brian of Sussex >