----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Charlesworth" <jason@casalis.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Trevor Penfold (Genealogy)" <penfold-genealogy@charis.co.uk> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Penfold] UNITED KINGDOM > Hi Everyone, > > I am Rebecca Kenneison and I live in Essex, north of Colchester. > > My g.grandmother Orpah PENFOLD was born at Rodmell in Sussex (nr Lewes) in > 1867, the d. of Richard PENFOLD (bapt 1825)and his wife Ann nee SIMMONS. I > have found her grandparents (another Richard, bapt 1792, Rodmell, who > married Sarah QUAIT). Orpah was the youngest of 13 children. > > I am stuck with her g.grandfather Thomas PENFOLD who first pops up in > Rodmell in 1775 marrying one Lucy LINDFIELD (I am stuck with Lucy too). I > have no idea where Thomas came from or when he was born - I would guess in > about 1755. He died in 1798, but no age was recorded. It's possible he was > born much earlier, even back into the 1720 (I have another ancestor who > remarried and begot a brood of kids in his 50s). If anyone has a vanishing > Thomas, born/bapt 1720-1760, please let me know! > > Rebecca > > > > >

Hi Brian, Hope you had a good Christmas. Here the snow came through in the end, so we had a white but blowy Christmas. I double checked the information I had on my grandfather, Eli James Penfold, and found he was born in Dragon's Green in 1908. He died in 1961. He married my grandmother, Edith Francis, in Itchingfield in about 1937 I think. Would you have anything on him? Thanks again, Terry Penfold On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, "brian bloomfield" wrote: > > Hi, Terry, > The only ELI PENFOLD I have ref to was b 1841, d 1851 > Ifield - there may be > a later connection with your ELI JAMES if you can track > back a bit more (as > the location and forename are the same) > Merry Christmas > Brian of Sussex > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <terryrobert@canada.com> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:22 PM > Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > My name is Terry Penfold and I am currently living in > > Ottawa. I am interested in the Penfolds from the > > Itchingfield/Ifield areas of Sussex. I was born in > > Horsham and emigrated to Canada with my family in > 1973. > > My grandfather Eli James Penfold was born in Ifield > and > > lived all of his life in Itchingfield and Barns Green. > > He married Edith Francis, and they had two boys, my > > father, Robert James Penfold, and uncle, Derek > Penfold, > > who now lives in Southwater. > > > > As I am just starting my rseearch, I am afraid I have > > little to offer in the way of information for others. > > > > Any leads would be very welcome! > > > > Terry Penfold > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE personalized e-mail at > <a href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://www.canada.com">http://www.canada.com</a> > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other > variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 142 > > Penfold Resource Website: > <a href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy">http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy</a>/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > go to: > > > <a href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other > variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 143 > Penfold Resource Website: > <a href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy">http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy</a>/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > <a href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com

My name is Joy Hurst and I live in Sidcup, Kent. I am researching the Penfolds of the Hawkhurst and Cranbrook area. My line goes back from my great-grandmother Charlotte Penfold born 1859 Cranbrook. Her parents were James Penfold b.1830 Hawkhurst and Maria Funnell and the parents of James were James Penfold b. 1806 Hawkhurst and Margaret Christmas. The line then goes back to John Penfold & Mary Gooding married 10 Dec 1804 Hawkhurst. >From the age given at his death John would appear to have been born about 1768 but as he died in 1835 I have no way at the moment of knowing which county he was born in. I have been lucky in tracing relatives in America so know that James b. 1806 and three sons and very possibly a daughter all migrated there. Also I have made contact with members of this list who are descended from James Isaac the brother of my great-grandmother and his son Frederick William. Now I would like to try and trace descendants of his other sons Alfred Oliver Augustus b. 1878 and James Isaac b. 1881 both in Staplehurst. Hoping you all had a wonderful Christmas and wishing you all a healthy and happy New Year. Joy

I'm Linda Irwin from North Somerset. The PENFOLDs aren't in my direct line, but I'm researching the family of George PENFOLD b.1895 Petworth, Sussex who married Edith Alice BUDD b.1899 Fittleworth, Sussex - Edith was my grandmother's sister. George's family goes back to Thomas PENNIFOLD b.1675 Crawley who married Jane HOGGE in Ifield in 1699. The family spread through Worth and Warbleton with George's line settling in Petworth around 1810. Each generation included at least one male with the forename of Standing, a tradition which continues today. The family includes two brothers who were both Workhouse Masters - John Standing PENFOLD who was Master of Petworth Workhouse in 1840, and William PENFOLD, Master of Easebourne (Midhurst) Workhouse before 1832. William was also the superintendent aboard the Lord Melville which carried emigrants to Canada as part of the Petworth Emigration Scheme. I believe his family remained in Canada as his son Standing George PENFOLD married in Lockport City in 1846. John Standing PENFOLD's son Bryan was a warder at the prison in Gillingham, Kent in 1881, and his nephew Standing Joseph PENFOLD (my George PENFOLD's grandfather) was a Trade Instructor at Portsmouth Prison for many years. I'm happy to share any information, and I'm always on the lookout for more connections :) Linda North Somerset, England linda@lindanet.co.uk Family tree at: http://www.lindanet.co.uk

Hi all My name is Julie Martin from near Cambridge,England. I am researching all Penfolds on the Surrey/Sussex border and those related to them. My actual line is from Thomas and Amy of Ifield, SSX (marr. 1792) via their son John of Forge Farm, Worth. "Trevor Penfold (Genealogy)" wrote: > > To list members in the United Kingdom: > > Would you please provide the following information: > > a) your name(s) > b) where you are located > c) a brief overview of who you are researching (looking for) > > Would you please respond to the Penfold list > (PENFOLD-L@ROOTSWEB.COM) and not to my email > address as this way everyone gets to share the > information that you are sending. > > Please make sure that UNITED KINGDOM is in the subject line. > > Best regards, > > Trevor Penfold > Penfold list co-ordinator > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 144 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, everyone, My name is Jack Cholette and I live in Rochester, New York, which is about 300 miles northwest of New York City.         My Penfold connection is through my great-grandmother Jane Penfold who married John Palmer in 1880 in Brockham, Surrey.        With the help of Kate Penfold Burns, we have pieced together these relations for this part of the family, most of whom lived in Walton-on-the-Hill, Surrey:        Jane Penfold was the daughter of William Penfold and Mary Letts. (William's parents were Elijah Penfold and Sophia Knight.) William had previously been married to Mary's sister, Ann Letts, before she died in 1856. Interestingly, that couple's granddaughter, Alice Venn (child of Elizabeth Ann Penfold and Edwin Venn) married John Palmer after his first wife, Jane Penfold, died in 1912.        I would be most interested in exchanging information with anyone who can add to this branch of the family.

> a) your name(s) Ben Beck > b) where you are located London > c) a brief overview of who you are researching (looking for) My descent is from Elizabeth Penfold, of Warnham & Slinfold, Sussex, who married Richard Boarn or Bourn in Horsham, Sussex, in 1781. She was christened in Slinfold in 1756, daughter of Henry Penfold, who married Elizabeth Furlonger at Wisborough Green in 1754. Would be glad of any information on these people and earlier generations. Also to hear from any other descendants of this family. Ben PS For a little more detail, see the relevant page of my website, http://web.ukonline.co.uk/benjaminbeck/bourn.html

A Happy New Year to you all! My name is Malcolm Hupman and I live at Corby, Northants, England. My great-grandmother was Sarah Ann Penfold who was born at Bedhampton, Hampshire in 1855 not long after her father George Penfold moved there from Chichester, Sussex. George was the son of George Penfold and Elizabeth Edwards. A George and Bet Penfold had a son George christened at Stouton, Sussex on 15 December 1811 but further research is needed to confirm this is the correct christening. We know that they were living in Chichester, Sussex in 1818 and George jnr. gave Chichester as his place of birth in all the census returns from 1841 to 1891. His age is inconstant in the census returns and having analysed the results have concluded that he lied about his age when he moved to Bedhampton, Hampshire between 1851 and 1855 and maintained the lie until he finished work between 1881 and 1891 and for this reason I believe the 1851 and 1891 returns to be the most reliable indication of his birth and would expect him to have been born in 1810 give or take a year. He married Eleanor Lipscomb in 1836 at Saint Peter the Great, Chichester, Sussex. She was the daughter of Joseph Lipscomb and Elizabeth Gratwick. There is some evidence that would indicate that George Penfold snr could be the son of Richard Penfold and Sarah Humphrey married at Aldingborne, Sussex and the grandson of Edward Penfold and Catherine Constable married at Chichester in 1754. Both Edward and Catherine were shown as of Arundel. There are more details about George jnr. on my website at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolm.hupman/index_files/page0009.htm E-mail Malcolm.Hupman@ntlworld.com Outgoing mail scanned by Norton Antivirus 2003 Professional Edition

Hi Janet I have some notes that look to be about your family. Descendants of William Penfold Generation No. 1 1. William Penfold of Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex married Ann Baker 14 August 1786 in Broadwater by Worthing, Sussex. Marriage Notes for William Penfold and Ann Baker: Penfold, William Wife: Ann BAKER Marriage Date: 14 Aug 1786 Recorded in: Broadwater by Worthing, Sussex, England Source: FHL Number 1068959 Dates: 1571-1846 Children of William Penfold and Ann Baker are: i. James Penfold, christened 18 October 1786, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. ii. John Penfold, christened 3 January 1788, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. 2. iii. Henry Penfold, christened 20 November 1789, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. iv. Ann Penfold, christened 20 July 1792, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. v. Joseph Penfold, christened 3 December 1794, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. Generation No. 2 2. Henry Penfold was christened 20 November 1789 in Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. He married Ann. Children of Henry Penfold and Ann are: i. John Ward Penfold, christened 4 December 1814, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. ii. Alfred Penfold, christened 20 April 1817, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. iii. Oliver Penfold, christened 16 June 1822, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. iv. William Henry Penfold, christened 13 October 1833, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. v. Ellen Penfold, christened 24 January 1836, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. vi. Maria Penfold, christened 26 June 1836, Broadwater By Worthing, Sussex. This should help you but please confirm the dates with primary sources. Malcolm Hupman Corby Northants England E-mail Malcolm.Hupman@ntlworld.com Please visit my website last updated 17th March 2002 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/malcolm.hupman 75 pages of fully indexed family history Outgoing mail scanned by Norton Antivirus 2003 Professional Edition -----Original Message----- From: Janet Considine [mailto:jan@considine.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 27 December 2002 07:50 To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Penfold] Re: Penfold UK Hi My name is Janet Considine and we live in Westhoughton which is near Bolton. We are related to Oliver Penfold born 1823 in Worthing, who married Lydia Brown in 1858 in the Parish of St Marylebone. Fathers were Henry Penfold, hatter and William Brown, licensed victualler. Residence at the time of marriage was Brighton and St Marylebone respectively. Their children were Henry Penfold born 1861 and William A. Penfold. In 1881 they were living at 6 Washington St, Brighton. They had a large shoe shop in Brighton called Penfolds and Henry was a member of the Brighton Volunteer Band (of which I have no information at the moment. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks and A Happy New Year to all.

My name is Brenda Smith - my mother's name was PENFOLD. I live at Erith Kent. My g.grandfather is as much as I know Arthur George PENFOLD b.1849 d.1889 wife Mary nee Johnstone - they lived Chatham Ave HOXTON their son - my grandfather - who I didn't know because he left my gran before I was born. George Harold PENFOLD b.7/3/1889 Gillingham Kent wife Alice Maud nee Wilson m. 1/5/1909 at Woolwich. George was in the army so they travelled about & children were born in different areas. George Arthur b.18/4/1909 - Woolwich Winifred Maud b.10/9/1911 - Chatham m.George MANNING [my parents] James b.1913? - Cardiff William John b.6/10/16 - Woolwich Do hope this info links up with somebody somewhere. Brenda

Greetings to all and best wishes for a peaceful 2003 I am Bruce Penfold I am at Christchurch, New Zealand where I and my father were born. My greatgrandfather Thomas emigrated from Ightham, Kent in 1878 with wife Elizabeth, 4 daughters and one son, Frank, my grandfather. I'm researching generally descendants of Richard Penfold(Penvill) (b Cranbrook 1724) and Mary Buss (greatgrandparents of Thomas above) who lived in the Goudhurst/Horsemonden/Cranbrook area. Thomas's father William (Goudhurst 1791) built the Bricklayers Arms in Goudhurst in the 1830's and this building remains today in restored condition. In particular I'm wanting information on descendants of Thomas's siblings - William (Horsemonden 1813 m Louisa & sons William 1858, Arthur 1860, Walter 1868, Frederick 1871 who all moved to London). James (Horsemonden 1816 m Agnes Smith then Elizabeth Bulpit - he died Shoreditch 1868 - & sons William 1841, Colville 1845, Robert 1848 & James 1851 also to London). David (Goudhurst 1820 & son Harry 1855 m Amelia Berwick). Emily (Goudhurst 1829 m Charles Humphrey & sons William 1858 & George 1863), Charles taking over the Bricklayers Arms in Goudhurst. Here's hoping! Bruce Penfold

To list members in locations not previously identified: Would you please provide the following information: a) your name(s) b) where you are located c) a brief overview of who you are researching (looking for) Would you please respond to the Penfold list (PENFOLD-L@ROOTSWEB.COM) and not to my email address as this way everyone gets to share the information that you are sending. Please make sure that your country of location is in the subject line. Best regards, Trevor Penfold Penfold list co-ordinator

To list members in the United States: Would you please provide the following information: a) your name(s) b) where you are located c) a brief overview of who you are researching (looking for) Would you please respond to the Penfold list (PENFOLD-L@ROOTSWEB.COM) and not to my email address as this way everyone gets to share the information that you are sending. Please make sure that UNITED STATES is in the subject line. Best regards, Trevor Penfold Penfold list co-ordinator

Hi My name is Janet Considine and we live in Westhoughton which is near Bolton. We are related to Oliver Penfold born 1823 in Worthing, who married Lydia Brown in 1858 in the Parish of St Marylebone. Fathers were Henry Penfold, hatter and William Brown, licensed victualler. Residence at the time of marriage was Brighton and St Marylebone respectively. Their children were Henry Penfold born 1861 and William A. Penfold. In 1881 they were living at 6 Washington St, Brighton. They had a large shoe shop in Brighton called Penfolds and Henry was a member of the Brighton Volunteer Band (of which I have no information at the moment. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks and A Happy New Year to all.

My name is Joan Bomkamp and I live 40 miles north of Chicago, IL. I am looking for information on Nicholas Penfold, b. abt 1795 supposedly in Westchester Co, New York, and d. 12 June, 1856 in New York. He married Margaret Spies on 26 Oct, 1820 in New York City. My records show the following children: Mary S. Penfold (Thomas) Harker, John Richard Penfold, Franklin Eugene Penfold, Adam Spies Penfold, and Hetty O. Penfold (Henry J.) Griffin. Looking for more information on Nicholas' parents as well as the Spies family.

a) Lloyd Penfold b) Birmingham, UK c) My family history. I can only go back to my Grandfather, Charles Penfold, who was 43 at the time of the 1901 census, and lived at Hove, Sussex. He was born in Patcham c.1858.

>Hello everyone, > >My name is Terry Penfold and I am currently living in >Ottawa. I am interested in the Penfolds from the >Itchingfield/Ifield areas of Sussex. I was born in >Horsham and emigrated to Canada with my family in 1973. >My grandfather Eli James Penfold was born in Ifield and >lived all of his life in Itchingfield and Barns Green. >He married Edith Francis, and they had two boys, my >father, Robert James Penfold, and uncle, Derek Penfold, >who now lives in Southwater. > >As I am just starting my research, I am afraid I have >little to offer in the way of information for others. > >Any leads would be very welcome! > >Terry Penfold > >__________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE personalized e-mail at ><a >href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://www.canada.com">http://www.canada.com</a> > > >==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== >Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other >variants >Email addresses subscribed to list: 142 >Penfold Resource Website: ><a >href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy">http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy</a>/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: ><a >href="http://mail.canada.com/jump/http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237">http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> > >------- End of forwarded message ------- > >__________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com > > >==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== >Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants >Email addresses subscribed to list: 143 >Penfold Resource Website: >http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf

Hi Listers, a) Peter Gainsborough b) Croydon, Surrey - about three miles from Trevor!! c) Seeking present-day descendants of Henry George Penfold born 17 February, 1876 at Wickham's Row, Goudhurst, Kent, one of the children of George Penfold and Emma nee Hawkins, who married on 28 March, 1905 at the Congregational Church, East Hill, Wandsworth, London, to Caroline Ann Mellows, born 24 August, 1878 at 46, Rockingham Street, Newington, London, one of the children of William Mellows and Eleanor nee West. I believe there were four sons (names unknown) from this marriage. It is believed that Henry George married a second time - spouse's name unknown - and had two sons (one could be Kenneth) and a daughter by his second Wife. Henry George is believed to have died c.1952 in the Wandsworth, London, area. Can anyone claim descendancy? Peter Gainsborough --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 17/12/2002

Hi All, a) - I am Trevor Penfold b) - of Beckenham, Kent, England c) - I am descended from John Penfold and Elizabeth Sandell of Itchingfield,Sussex who married on 5th April 1781. -- Through William Penfold and Hannah Humphrey who established the name in Hartfield in Sussex. -- Through Thomas Penfold and Mary Willie -- Through Thomas Penfold and Alice Maude Backshall -- Through Stephen Bertrand Penfold and Hilda Emily Longhurst -- Through Colin Bertrand Penfold and Emily Louisa Pennyfather I would be most interested to hear from anyone descended from John/Elizabeth, William/Hannah or Thomas/Mary. Best regards, Trevor

To list members in the United Kingdom: Would you please provide the following information: a) your name(s) b) where you are located c) a brief overview of who you are researching (looking for) Would you please respond to the Penfold list (PENFOLD-L@ROOTSWEB.COM) and not to my email address as this way everyone gets to share the information that you are sending. Please make sure that UNITED KINGDOM is in the subject line. Best regards, Trevor Penfold Penfold list co-ordinator