Newington rang a bell and I remembered a website (http://www.dswark.org) i had looked at before. Not sure if it is of any use, or the correct one but..... FYI: The Parish Church of Saint Mary Newington 57 Kennington Park Road Kennington London SE11 4JQ 020 7735 1894 Until 1870's the church was located at the Elephant and Castle roundabout when it, and several others were relocated due to road changes in the area. In the 1950's the area was affected by bomb damage so perhaps the street disappeared then. Visitors to this site may include those in search of Family History records. Please note that historical records and registers of baptisms, marriages and burials etc are not held in the parish. They are in the care of: The London Metropolitan Archives 40 Northampton Road London EC1R 0HB Tel:(+44) 020 7332 3820 (Reception) (+44) 020 7332 3822 (Parish records) Fax:(+44) 020 7833 9136 Email: London Metropolitan Archives ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Chris Penfold" <chris.penfold@ntlworld.com> Reply-To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Penfold] William George Penfold Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:53:38 -0000 Hello Viki, William George Penfold is my Great Grand Father, William George Benjamin my Grand Father and his son Harry John my Dad. I have done a bit of research over the last few years and have found a few birth and marriage certificates which confirm dates and addresses etc. William George was born 26/5/1861 and his father was also William George (an original lot us Penfolds). His mother was Elen Reading and they were married at St. Mary, Lambeth on 29/7/1860. William George the elder was born 3/1/1838 in Trinity St Mary, Newington. This is where things get a bit sketchy. William George the elder's Parents were George Penfold & Mary Tildesley and on William's birth certificate he is listed as a Letter carrier for the General Post Office. I have since found his appointment in the Post Office archives (24/5/1835) at Mount Pleasant and some pension details. According to the birth certificate George & Mary were living at 4 Maryland Place, Newington but I have not been able to find this address in old census returns. I believe that George was born around 1808 and I have found an IGI listing for their marriage of 13/4/1828 in 'London'. I hope this is what you are looking for. If you would like other more recent details please let me know. If anyone else is researching this line please let us know Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <viki.penfold@talk21.com> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: [Penfold] William George Penfold > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Penfold > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/72 > > Message Board Post: > > Am looking for information on William George Penfold was married to Annie Manser had son William George Benjamin Penfold January 1887 who was born in Richmond Surrey. Mothers address on birth certificate is West Kensington. Any information greatly appreciated. Very new to this game so any help advice would be truly appreciated. > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Di you ever have a Penfold marrying a Martin. I have an Alfred Edward Penfold marrying a Clara Martin Creina Penfold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Martin" <julie@housemartin.f9.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:05 AM Subject: [Penfold] My Penfold Webpages > Hi All > > As promised my Penfold webpages are finally up and running. Hope they > prove useful to you. (Please bear with them as they are my first > attempt). They can be found at > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/house-martin/family/ > > Best wishes > Julie > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Another one.... P.C.C. relating to Proved Wills Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: Abrieviations Could someone please tell me what the abr. S.P. stands for? I believe M.I. means Monumental Inscription. There was another abr. that I came across a week or so ago but slips my mind at the moment. I believe there was an email recently with abr.s in it.... if it was mentioned there in.... then could someone please post it again My thanks in advance Heather Domoney

Could someone please tell me what the abr. S.P. stands for? I believe M.I. means Monumental Inscription. There was another abr. that I came across a week or so ago but slips my mind at the moment. I believe there was an email recently with abr.s in it.... if it was mentioned there in.... then could someone please post it again My thanks in advance Heather Domoney

There are many abbreviations on my web site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/abbr.htm P.C.C.- Prerogative Court of Canterbury S.P. (d.s.p.) - decessit sine prole (died without issue) Cheers Guy H Domoney wrote: > Another one.... P.C.C. relating to Proved Wills > > >Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:01 PM >Subject: Abrieviations > > >Could someone please tell me what the abr. S.P. stands for? I believe M.I. means Monumental Inscription. >There was another abr. that I came across a week or so ago but slips my mind at the moment. > >I believe there was an email recently with abr.s in it.... if it was mentioned there in.... then could someone please post it again > >My thanks in advance >Heather Domoney > > >==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== >Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants >Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 >Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > -- Wakefield, England http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells The site that gives you facts - not promises! Look ups by permission of Archive CD Books http://www.archivecdbooks.org http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental Inscriptions, War Graves, etc.

Hi All As promised my Penfold webpages are finally up and running. Hope they prove useful to you. (Please bear with them as they are my first attempt). They can be found at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/house-martin/family/ Best wishes Julie

Thankyou for your email Stan.... I am in touch with Ed. Cheers Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "carterclark" <carterclark@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: [Penfold] Re:Penfold Research > Hello Heather, > Ed. McCarthy ecmccar@attglobal.net is seeking information about Barton Penfold (1835-1903). His Gran's aunt was Harriet Chatfield who married Barton in 1860. Seems to be connected with your line. > In the 1841 census ages were sometimes rounded down to the nearest five years and this may account for some of the discrepancies in my note. I will check my papers and contact you shortly. > Best Wishes, Stan Clark of Ifield. > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Brian.... All good background information Cheers Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian bloomfield" <brian-bloomfield@lineone.net> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Penfold] Re:Penfold Research > Hello Heather and Stan > The name Barton Penfold jogged my memory: sometime ago I trawled through > some Kelly's Directories etc. and made a note of these entries: > > Kelly's Sussex 1845 - West Chiltington: Barton Penfold, Farmer > Post Office Directory of 6 counties 1851 - Chiltington: Barton > Penfold, Farmer > Melville Directory 1858 - West Chiltington: Barton Penfold: Meer's > Farm > Kelly's Directory 1859 - Chiltington: Barton Penfold, Farmer > .. .. 1862 - Barton Penfold. Farmer and Pig > Dealer > .. .. 1866 - West Chiltington: Barton Penfold, > Farmer > > Barton Penfold jun. Farmer and Dealer > Farmers: Barton Penfold, > Doddleswell, Maresfield, Uckfield > Barton > Penfold, Pulborough, Hurst Green, West Chiltington, Hurstpierpoint > Barton Penfold > jun, West Chiltington, Hurstpierpoint > obviously prosperous people! > > Best wishes, > Brian of West Sussex > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carterclark" <carterclark@tinyworld.co.uk> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:43 PM > Subject: [Penfold] Re:Penfold Research > > > > Hello Heather, > > Ed. McCarthy ecmccar@attglobal.net is seeking > information about Barton Penfold (1835-1903). His Gran's aunt was Harriet > Chatfield who married Barton in 1860. Seems to be connected with your > line. > > In the 1841 census ages were sometimes rounded down to > the nearest five years and this may account for some of the discrepancies in > my note. I will check my papers and contact you shortly. > > Best Wishes, Stan Clark of Ifield. > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I received this from another Rootsweb Forum. Thought it worth passing on. Had this same problem with another Genealogy site (name escapes me at the moment...but when I find it I will pass it one so hopefully someone else wont get caught. Heather > > > Forwarded FYI from the Archives-CC mail list... my apologies if you get this > on more than one list. > > > Hi Everyone: > > The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com > > Behind the password protection are links to the free > genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. > > In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to > surrender a credit card or bank account number. You > have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess > what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this > surprise you? > > One person who recently fell for the come-on had > his/her account dinged not once, but twice. > > It is time to remind folks on your state and county > mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a > couple of years since we have mentioned this. > > Permission is granted to pass this on. > > > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ==== PAGE Mailing List ==== > PAGE list website - http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/lists/PAGE.htm >

Can anyone please give me any details on Dr Frederick Bailey PENFOLD who died in Leatherhead, Surrey. I believe he passed away in the 1940s Regards Heather Domoney

Chris, Thanks for this. I have not long started looking into my own family tree and then my husband asked me to look into his. He is Dean Penfold his father William Thomas is the son of William George Benjamin Penfold. His Nan's name was Maud nee Wallace late Lalley is this your dad's mum also. I believe there are a number of siblings any information on these would be great. Thanks Viki Penfold Caterham Surrey > Hello Viki, > >William George Penfold is my Great Grand Father, William George Benjamin my >Grand Father and his son Harry John my Dad. >I have done a bit of research over the last few years and have found a few >birth and marriage certificates which confirm dates and addresses etc. >William George was born 26/5/1861 and his father was also William George (an >original lot us Penfolds). His mother was Elen Reading and they were married >at St. Mary, Lambeth on 29/7/1860. William George the elder was born >3/1/1838 in Trinity St Mary, Newington. >This is where things get a bit sketchy. William George the elder's Parents >were George Penfold & Mary Tildesley and on William's birth certificate he >is listed as a Letter carrier for the General Post Office. I have since >found his appointment in the Post Office archives (24/5/1835) at Mount >Pleasant and some pension details. According to the birth certificate George & Mary were living at 4 Maryland Place, Newington but I have not been able >to find this address in old census returns. >I believe that George was born around 1808 and I have found an IGI listing >for their marriage of 13/4/1828 in 'London'. > >I hope this is what you are looking for. If you would like other more recent >details please let me know. > >If anyone else is researching this line please let us know > >Chris >----- Original Message ----- >From: <viki.penfold@talk21.com> >To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:09 AM >Subject: [Penfold] William George Penfold > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Penfold > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > <a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/72'>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/72</a> > > Message Board Post: > > Am looking for information on William George Penfold was married to Annie >Manser had son William George Benjamin Penfold January 1887 who was born in >Richmond Surrey. Mothers address on birth certificate is West Kensington. >Any information greatly appreciated. Very new to this game so any help >advice would be truly appreciated. > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: ><a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/'>http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/</a> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > <a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237'>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> > > > >==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== >Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants >Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 >Penfold Resource Website: <a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/'>http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/</a> > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: ><a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237'>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237</a> -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

Hello Viki, William George Penfold is my Great Grand Father, William George Benjamin my Grand Father and his son Harry John my Dad. I have done a bit of research over the last few years and have found a few birth and marriage certificates which confirm dates and addresses etc. William George was born 26/5/1861 and his father was also William George (an original lot us Penfolds). His mother was Elen Reading and they were married at St. Mary, Lambeth on 29/7/1860. William George the elder was born 3/1/1838 in Trinity St Mary, Newington. This is where things get a bit sketchy. William George the elder's Parents were George Penfold & Mary Tildesley and on William's birth certificate he is listed as a Letter carrier for the General Post Office. I have since found his appointment in the Post Office archives (24/5/1835) at Mount Pleasant and some pension details. According to the birth certificate George & Mary were living at 4 Maryland Place, Newington but I have not been able to find this address in old census returns. I believe that George was born around 1808 and I have found an IGI listing for their marriage of 13/4/1828 in 'London'. I hope this is what you are looking for. If you would like other more recent details please let me know. If anyone else is researching this line please let us know Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <viki.penfold@talk21.com> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: [Penfold] William George Penfold > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Penfold > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/72 > > Message Board Post: > > Am looking for information on William George Penfold was married to Annie Manser had son William George Benjamin Penfold January 1887 who was born in Richmond Surrey. Mothers address on birth certificate is West Kensington. Any information greatly appreciated. Very new to this game so any help advice would be truly appreciated. > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Vikki There is a William G Penfold shown in the 1881 Census. He is aged 43 , a musician & living in Richmond, Surrey with his wife Ellen, aged 42. They had 5 children all shown as being born in Richmond. The children were Harry (17), Alfred (13) Ellen (11), Mary (5) and Thomas (3). Although his wife's name isn't Annie, it is strange that the children were all born in Richmond. I've done aname search of the 1901 Census and I can't find William G or William George Benjamin. I'm fairly new to all this too and am currently tracing my Penfold ancestors back in Sussex. I hope this may be of use.If I find out any more I'll get back to you. Regards Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: viki.penfold@talk21.com To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: [Penfold] William George Penfold This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Penfold Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/72 Message Board Post: Am looking for information on William George Penfold was married to Annie Manser had son William George Benjamin Penfold January 1887 who was born in Richmond Surrey. Mothers address on birth certificate is West Kensington. Any information greatly appreciated. Very new to this game so any help advice would be truly appreciated. ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Penfold Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/72 Message Board Post: Am looking for information on William George Penfold was married to Annie Manser had son William George Benjamin Penfold January 1887 who was born in Richmond Surrey. Mothers address on birth certificate is West Kensington. Any information greatly appreciated. Very new to this game so any help advice would be truly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CS5.2ACEB/71 Message Board Post: Looking for the Penfold who married Susanna Graser and had two daughters. Susanna was born about 1878 in Buffalo NY so her husband would have been born about that time give or take a few years. Don't know his first name. I do have a photo of Susanna to assist in id if needed.

Hello Heather and Stan The name Barton Penfold jogged my memory: sometime ago I trawled through some Kelly's Directories etc. and made a note of these entries: Kelly's Sussex 1845 - West Chiltington: Barton Penfold, Farmer Post Office Directory of 6 counties 1851 - Chiltington: Barton Penfold, Farmer Melville Directory 1858 - West Chiltington: Barton Penfold: Meer's Farm Kelly's Directory 1859 - Chiltington: Barton Penfold, Farmer .. .. 1862 - Barton Penfold. Farmer and Pig Dealer .. .. 1866 - West Chiltington: Barton Penfold, Farmer Barton Penfold jun. Farmer and Dealer Farmers: Barton Penfold, Doddleswell, Maresfield, Uckfield Barton Penfold, Pulborough, Hurst Green, West Chiltington, Hurstpierpoint Barton Penfold jun, West Chiltington, Hurstpierpoint obviously prosperous people! Best wishes, Brian of West Sussex ----- Original Message ----- From: "carterclark" <carterclark@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: [Penfold] Re:Penfold Research > Hello Heather, > Ed. McCarthy ecmccar@attglobal.net is seeking information about Barton Penfold (1835-1903). His Gran's aunt was Harriet Chatfield who married Barton in 1860. Seems to be connected with your line. > In the 1841 census ages were sometimes rounded down to the nearest five years and this may account for some of the discrepancies in my note. I will check my papers and contact you shortly. > Best Wishes, Stan Clark of Ifield. > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

HI Carol Thanks for your message. Will keep on looking. FYI:I was looking at a websit for Wingham www.wingham.org.uk which has a PENFOLD Travelling Fair mention in its History page/Flower Show as follows: Extract from The Kent Herald, September 26, 1839 ......The Flower Show took place in the large field on the left hand side of the Canterbury Road, on the far side of the railway embankment. On the day previous to the Show, the Dover Marquee Company would erect the large marquee for the exhibits, smaller marquees for refreshments, and, of course, the Beer Tent. Penfold's Travelling Fair provided entertainment with swings, roundabouts and games of chance. Probably not of very much help to anyone but you never know regards Michelle www.friendsreunited.co.uk ----Original Message Follows---- From: MKCBATTS@aol.com Reply-To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Penfold] (no subject) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:16:56 EST Hi Michelle Not sure I'm going to be much help, I only have names no dates passed onto me by the granddaughter of the Fairground owner, William Penfold 1891 -1961 he married Sophy Hughes. His Brother Jack was married to Emma Aldridge, they had Elizabeth, Joseph and James possibly more. James m Jane Hughs - had Voilet, James, Jane, Samuel, Mary, John, Ada, and Margaret. Joseph m ? and they had Daisy and Joan. Ive not come across any Bickers. Hope you have better luck at finding a connection than I have. My Penfolds are Lydd Folkestone Canterbury, Staplehurst and Cranbrook areas, the names you mention haven't rung any bells, but will keep your email to hand perhaps we are both looking for the same connection. regards Carol ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 148 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Hi Joy, Fantastic, you've just added 4 generations and almost 200 years. I'd got stuck on a Walter=Mary Hards connection I found on IGI and couldn't take it further - now I have a hope. I'd found the Hawkhurst Penfolds and thought there must be a connection somewhere but also just couldn't make it. Thank you John ----- Original Message ----- From: <jvghurst@ntlworld.com> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: [Penfold] Walter Penfold > Hello John > > There was a Walter Penfold born 16 April 1827 and baptised 13 May 1827 The > Chapel on the Hill Cranbrook the son of Thomas Penfold and Mary Leigh who > could be the one you are looking for. Thomas Penfold married Mary Leigh 13 > September 1807 Cranbrook, Kent and they had the following children: > > Thomas Leigh/Penfold - Baptism: 13 April 1806, Cranbrook, Kent. > > William Penfold - Baptism: 31 July 1808, Cranbrook, Kent. > > Sarah Penfold - Baptism: 6 May 1810, Cranbrook, Kent. > > George Penfold, born Abt. 1813 in Milton, Kent.. > > Robert Penfold, born 17 March 1816 in Cranbrook, Kent.; Baptism 27 April > 1819 The Chapel on the Hill, Cranbrook, Kent .died April 1855. > > Elizabeth Penfold, born 5 September 1818. - Baptism: 27 April 1819, The > Chapel on the Hill, Cranbrook. Kent. > > Stephen Penfold, born 16 April 1821; Baptism 27 May 1821 The Chapel on the > Hill, Cranbrook, Kentdied 4 December 1885 in Deptford. > > Rachel Penfold, born 1824.- Baptism: 1 April 1824 > > Walter Penfold, born 16 April 1827.- Baptism: 13 May 1827, The Chapel on the > Hill, Cranbrook. Kent. > > At one stage I thought that my John Penfold was the brother of this Thomas > but later found that he had been born too early, that is why I have the > information on this family. If this is the right line it goes back: > John Penfold & Sarah Sprange marr 5 Nov 1777 - Hawkhurst > Richard Penville & Elizabeth Buss marr 14 Nov 1751 - Cranbrook > Richard Penvill & Anne xxxxx > Thomas Penvill & Elizabeth Welland Marr 18 Aug 1691 - Maidstone > Thomas Penvell & Alise Burges Marr 22 Jan 1666/67 - Maidstone > > If you think this is the correct Walter you will find there are quite a few > members who are descended from this line on the PENFOLD list so you should > be able to link up with them. > > I hope this helps. > Best wishes > Joy Hurst > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 147 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello John There was a Walter Penfold born 16 April 1827 and baptised 13 May 1827 The Chapel on the Hill Cranbrook the son of Thomas Penfold and Mary Leigh who could be the one you are looking for. Thomas Penfold married Mary Leigh 13 September 1807 Cranbrook, Kent and they had the following children: Thomas Leigh/Penfold - Baptism: 13 April 1806, Cranbrook, Kent. William Penfold - Baptism: 31 July 1808, Cranbrook, Kent. Sarah Penfold - Baptism: 6 May 1810, Cranbrook, Kent. George Penfold, born Abt. 1813 in Milton, Kent.. Robert Penfold, born 17 March 1816 in Cranbrook, Kent.; Baptism 27 April 1819 The Chapel on the Hill, Cranbrook, Kent .died April 1855. Elizabeth Penfold, born 5 September 1818. - Baptism: 27 April 1819, The Chapel on the Hill, Cranbrook. Kent. Stephen Penfold, born 16 April 1821; Baptism 27 May 1821 The Chapel on the Hill, Cranbrook, Kentdied 4 December 1885 in Deptford. Rachel Penfold, born 1824.- Baptism: 1 April 1824 Walter Penfold, born 16 April 1827.- Baptism: 13 May 1827, The Chapel on the Hill, Cranbrook. Kent. At one stage I thought that my John Penfold was the brother of this Thomas but later found that he had been born too early, that is why I have the information on this family. If this is the right line it goes back: John Penfold & Sarah Sprange marr 5 Nov 1777 - Hawkhurst Richard Penville & Elizabeth Buss marr 14 Nov 1751 - Cranbrook Richard Penvill & Anne xxxxx Thomas Penvill & Elizabeth Welland Marr 18 Aug 1691 - Maidstone Thomas Penvell & Alise Burges Marr 22 Jan 1666/67 - Maidstone If you think this is the correct Walter you will find there are quite a few members who are descended from this line on the PENFOLD list so you should be able to link up with them. I hope this helps. Best wishes Joy Hurst

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Penfold Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CS5.2ACEB/55.56.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Lisa, Do you have any info on this William b 1856 to George b abt 1812 Ashtead & Jemima (nee STONE) b abt 1817, that you are willing to share ?. Best Wishes Bernie modbury@ntlworld.com