Hi Julie, What Family Tree software are you using ? Best regards, Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Martin" <julie@housemartin.f9.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: [Penfold] Gedcom files > Hi All > > Can anyone tell me how I open GedCOM files? I have had a number sent to > me now with interesting sounding information in them but I cannot open > them. Do I need any special software? > > Hope someone can help. > > Julie Martin > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi All Can anyone tell me how I open GedCOM files? I have had a number sent to me now with interesting sounding information in them but I cannot open them. Do I need any special software? Hope someone can help. Julie Martin

Hi David There was a Walter Penfold aged 6 years, born Croyden, in the 1881 Census. He was living at 13 Cross Road, Croyden, with his mother Jane aged 37 (born Godstone, Surrey) and his brother Henry aged 6, born Croydon too. There is no mention of Jane's husband and she is down as the head of the family. There also seems to be more than one Henry Penfold, born Croydon, of a similar age in the 1901 Census. Regards Marilyn Hodkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: David Penfold To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family Hi. I'm just starting out on looking at my family tree and was wondering if anyone would be able to give me a head start. I'm interested in a Walter T Penfold who from the 1901 census was 31 therefore born in 1870 in Croydon. He was a fishmonger with wife Elizabeth and 3 kids living in South End, Croydon. Any info anyone has would be greatly received. David Penfold Walters great grandson -----Original Message----- From: "Russell Ridout" <ridout@which.net> Sent: 08/03/03 22:28:49 To: "PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com" <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family Hi - Do you have any siblings for James? I have a James baptised 5 March 1837, brothers Charles; William & Harry. Sisters Ann and Susanna. Not sure of exact birthplaces, but within Sussex... Russell Ridout ----- Original Message ----- From: "carterclark" <carterclark@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Fw: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > Hello Marilyn, > Nearest I can find is a James Penfold born about 1836 > in Chiltington which is near Pulborough. His age is shown as 15 in the 1851 > census for Pulborough. He was unmarried and worked for James and Ann > Cowper,carrier and grocer. > Regards, > Stan Clark of > -- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan & Marilyn Hodkinson" <almar@southdarenth.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:01 PM > Subject: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > > > > Does anyone have any information please on JAMES PENFOLD born around 1833 > in Pulborough? I have found him in the 1881 census living in Kent aged 48. > His wife is Sophia & they had three sons, William, Frederick E and Edwin G. > > > > I found one record that says his parents were Peter & Sarah, but surely > they can't be Peter, b.1777 & Sarah Burrage because that would make Sarah 54 > when she had him! > > > > Many thanks > > Marilyn > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi. I'm just starting out on looking at my family tree and was wondering if anyone would be able to give me a head start. I'm interested in a Walter T Penfold who from the 1901 census was 31 therefore born in 1870 in Croydon. He was a fishmonger with wife Elizabeth and 3 kids living in South End, Croydon. Any info anyone has would be greatly received. David Penfold Walters great grandson -----Original Message----- From: "Russell Ridout" <ridout@which.net> Sent: 08/03/03 22:28:49 To: "PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com" <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family Hi - Do you have any siblings for James? I have a James baptised 5 March 1837, brothers Charles; William & Harry. Sisters Ann and Susanna. Not sure of exact birthplaces, but within Sussex... Russell Ridout ----- Original Message ----- From: "carterclark" <carterclark@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Fw: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > Hello Marilyn, > Nearest I can find is a James Penfold born about 1836 > in Chiltington which is near Pulborough. His age is shown as 15 in the 1851 > census for Pulborough. He was unmarried and worked for James and Ann > Cowper,carrier and grocer. > Regards, > Stan Clark of > -- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan & Marilyn Hodkinson" <almar@southdarenth.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:01 PM > Subject: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > > > > Does anyone have any information please on JAMES PENFOLD born around 1833 > in Pulborough? I have found him in the 1881 census living in Kent aged 48. > His wife is Sophia & they had three sons, William, Frederick E and Edwin G. > > > > I found one record that says his parents were Peter & Sarah, but surely > they can't be Peter, b.1777 & Sarah Burrage because that would make Sarah 54 > when she had him! > > > > Many thanks > > Marilyn > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: PENFOLD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CS5.2ACEB/55.56.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Lisa, Sorry for the delay in replying. I am still having difficulty placing my William and Mary Penfold, parents of my gg-grandmother Harriet Penfold. I have found a possible William Penfold on the IGI, chr. 07 Feb 1796 at Shoreham, Kent, which is in fairly close proximity to Erith, Dartford, etc. I'll probably focus on him. Not too sure where Phebe Gorringe was from, but the name being uncommon, stuck in my mind. Take care! Bonnie

Hi - Do you have any siblings for James? I have a James baptised 5 March 1837, brothers Charles; William & Harry. Sisters Ann and Susanna. Not sure of exact birthplaces, but within Sussex... Russell Ridout ----- Original Message ----- From: "carterclark" <carterclark@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Fw: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > Hello Marilyn, > Nearest I can find is a James Penfold born about 1836 > in Chiltington which is near Pulborough. His age is shown as 15 in the 1851 > census for Pulborough. He was unmarried and worked for James and Ann > Cowper,carrier and grocer. > Regards, > Stan Clark of > -- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan & Marilyn Hodkinson" <almar@southdarenth.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:01 PM > Subject: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > > > > Does anyone have any information please on JAMES PENFOLD born around 1833 > in Pulborough? I have found him in the 1881 census living in Kent aged 48. > His wife is Sophia & they had three sons, William, Frederick E and Edwin G. > > > > I found one record that says his parents were Peter & Sarah, but surely > they can't be Peter, b.1777 & Sarah Burrage because that would make Sarah 54 > when she had him! > > > > Many thanks > > Marilyn > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Stan Thanks for your help, you have given me something to work on. The interesting thing is that the James I mentioned lived about 2 miles from where I do now in Kent, so it would be great to trace him back definitely to my Penfold line around Angmering in Sussex. Regards Marilyn Hodkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: carterclark To: PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Fw: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family Hello Marilyn, Nearest I can find is a James Penfold born about 1836 in Chiltington which is near Pulborough. His age is shown as 15 in the 1851 census for Pulborough. He was unmarried and worked for James and Ann Cowper,carrier and grocer. Regards, Stan Clark of -- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Marilyn Hodkinson" <almar@southdarenth.freeserve.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > Does anyone have any information please on JAMES PENFOLD born around 1833 in Pulborough? I have found him in the 1881 census living in Kent aged 48. His wife is Sophia & they had three sons, William, Frederick E and Edwin G. > > I found one record that says his parents were Peter & Sarah, but surely they can't be Peter, b.1777 & Sarah Burrage because that would make Sarah 54 when she had him! > > Many thanks > Marilyn > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants Email addresses subscribed to list: 145 Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Marilyn, Nearest I can find is a James Penfold born about 1836 in Chiltington which is near Pulborough. His age is shown as 15 in the 1851 census for Pulborough. He was unmarried and worked for James and Ann Cowper,carrier and grocer. Regards, Stan Clark of -- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Marilyn Hodkinson" <almar@southdarenth.freeserve.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: [Penfold] PENFOLD Family > Does anyone have any information please on JAMES PENFOLD born around 1833 in Pulborough? I have found him in the 1881 census living in Kent aged 48. His wife is Sophia & they had three sons, William, Frederick E and Edwin G. > > I found one record that says his parents were Peter & Sarah, but surely they can't be Peter, b.1777 & Sarah Burrage because that would make Sarah 54 when she had him! > > Many thanks > Marilyn > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, For your information The Old Bailey Criminal Records are now available at www.oldbaileyonline.org I think that the date range is currently 1719-1754. There is a William Penfold mentioned. He was a juror. Best regards, Trevor

Hello Julie, I think you are realising what I am saying no-one really 'knows' anything about Eliga (Elijah) b. in Alfold with any certainty - and so all is supposition. We can all believe 'this' or 'that' might be the case - however, it is not good enough to build a past around. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: <PENFOLD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PENFOLD-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:03 AM Subject: PENFOLD-D Digest V03 #47

Hi John This is not my line but I have been in correspondence with others, including Kate who are descended from that line and a lot of my info has come from them plus other research i have done. I am researching as many of the Surrey/Sussex border branches as i can (mainly 18th and early 19th century as you can see from my website). I believe they are all ultimately connected and am collecting clues to their links. They also appear to have connections to Lewisham and other Kent parishes (I haven't yet connected mine with the Goudhurst/Hawkhurst Penfolds and believe that may be further back in time. My line is presently stuck on Thomas of Ifield born place unknown about 1765. Possibly he is a son of William and Jane of Ifield and there are also inklings of a connection to the Worth Penfolds. Best wishes Julie John wrote: > > Julie > Thanks for your info, as wasn't aware of that. > Is this the same line that you are researching ? > > Lisa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Martin" <julie@housemartin.f9.co.uk> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > > > Hi John > > > > Hope you don't mind my mentioning that Elijah's mother Jen would have > > been Jane not Jennifer. Jenny (usually pronounced Jinny in England) was > > a pet form of Jane and and only became used for Jennifer in the 20th > > century. Incidentally Jennifer was a Cornish name Jenifer (Guinevere - > > 'of King Arthur fame') and the 'nn' spelling only came in when it was > > associated with Jenny in the 20th century. > > > > Best wishes > > Julie > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > Kate, > > > The information I have about Elijah is b abt 1801 d Dec 1st 1850 > christened > > > 26th September 1801 in Alford Surrey > > > he married Sophia Knight on 12th November 1822 in All Saints Parish > Church > > > Banstead Surrey. Sophia was b 1801 and d 24th August 1850 in Banstead > > > Surrey. > > > They had 5 children > > > Thomas b 1824 > > > Anne b 1826 > > > William b 1829 > > > Peter b1831 > > > Jane b 1832 > > > As for Elijahs parents, all I have is George and Jennifer m abt 1800 > and > > > that George d abt 1865 > > > Hope this is all of some help > > > > > > Lisa > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "kburns" <kburns2@bigpond.com> > > > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 AM > > > Subject: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > > > > > > > Hello Julie, > > > > > > > > I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead > > > > who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place > > > > or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only > > > > definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his > > > > father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I > > > > would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would > > > > others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did > > > > they died, and where. > > > > > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > > > Penfold Resource Website: > > > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Julie Thanks for your info, as wasn't aware of that. Is this the same line that you are researching ? Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Martin" <julie@housemartin.f9.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > Hi John > > Hope you don't mind my mentioning that Elijah's mother Jen would have > been Jane not Jennifer. Jenny (usually pronounced Jinny in England) was > a pet form of Jane and and only became used for Jennifer in the 20th > century. Incidentally Jennifer was a Cornish name Jenifer (Guinevere - > 'of King Arthur fame') and the 'nn' spelling only came in when it was > associated with Jenny in the 20th century. > > Best wishes > Julie > > John wrote: > > > > Kate, > > The information I have about Elijah is b abt 1801 d Dec 1st 1850 christened > > 26th September 1801 in Alford Surrey > > he married Sophia Knight on 12th November 1822 in All Saints Parish Church > > Banstead Surrey. Sophia was b 1801 and d 24th August 1850 in Banstead > > Surrey. > > They had 5 children > > Thomas b 1824 > > Anne b 1826 > > William b 1829 > > Peter b1831 > > Jane b 1832 > > As for Elijahs parents, all I have is George and Jennifer m abt 1800 and > > that George d abt 1865 > > Hope this is all of some help > > > > Lisa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "kburns" <kburns2@bigpond.com> > > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 AM > > Subject: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > > > > > Hello Julie, > > > > > > I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead > > > who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place > > > or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only > > > definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his > > > father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I > > > would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would > > > others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did > > > they died, and where. > > > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > > Penfold Resource Website: > > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Kate Afraid I know nothing beyond Elijah's baptism at Alfold in 1801, which was passed on to me by someone else (sorry can't remember who off the top of my head, but he was descended from Elijah. There was another Elijah bap. 1808 (I think) at Wisborough Green. His parents were also George and Jane but I don't think they would be the same ones. I suspect they were related, however, this may even be the Elijah who was a witness at his second wedding. I am wondering wheter your Elijah may have been the youngest of his generation and George of Wisb. Gr. possibly an older brother. I believe the Mary Penfold who married Richard Standing at Alfold in 1827 may be Elijah's sister (she was sent to Brighton by the parish when pregnant with her illegitimate daughter - Mary Ann bap. Alfold 1826). Have you any clues from Elijah's Brighton connection? Sorry I can't help further Best wishes Julie kburns wrote: > > Hello Julie, > > I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead > who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place > or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only > definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his > father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I > would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would > others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did > they died, and where. > > Kate > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi John Hope you don't mind my mentioning that Elijah's mother Jen would have been Jane not Jennifer. Jenny (usually pronounced Jinny in England) was a pet form of Jane and and only became used for Jennifer in the 20th century. Incidentally Jennifer was a Cornish name Jenifer (Guinevere - 'of King Arthur fame') and the 'nn' spelling only came in when it was associated with Jenny in the 20th century. Best wishes Julie John wrote: > > Kate, > The information I have about Elijah is b abt 1801 d Dec 1st 1850 christened > 26th September 1801 in Alford Surrey > he married Sophia Knight on 12th November 1822 in All Saints Parish Church > Banstead Surrey. Sophia was b 1801 and d 24th August 1850 in Banstead > Surrey. > They had 5 children > Thomas b 1824 > Anne b 1826 > William b 1829 > Peter b1831 > Jane b 1832 > As for Elijahs parents, all I have is George and Jennifer m abt 1800 and > that George d abt 1865 > Hope this is all of some help > > Lisa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kburns" <kburns2@bigpond.com> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 AM > Subject: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > > > Hello Julie, > > > > I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead > > who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place > > or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only > > definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his > > father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I > > would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would > > others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did > > they died, and where. > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

John wrote: > > Kate, > The information I have about Elijah is b abt 1801 d Dec 1st 1850 christened > 26th September 1801 in Alford Surrey > he married Sophia Knight on 12th November 1822 in All Saints Parish Church > Banstead Surrey. Sophia was b 1801 and d 24th August 1850 in Banstead > Surrey. > They had 5 children > Thomas b 1824 > Anne b 1826 > William b 1829 > Peter b1831 > Jane b 1832 > As for Elijahs parents, all I have is George and Jennifer m abt 1800 and > that George d abt 1865 > Hope this is all of some help > > Lisa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kburns" <kburns2@bigpond.com> > To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 AM > Subject: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > > > Hello Julie, > > > > I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead > > who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place > > or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only > > definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his > > father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I > > would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would > > others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did > > they died, and where. > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > > Penfold Resource Website: > http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Kate, The information I have about Elijah is b abt 1801 d Dec 1st 1850 christened 26th September 1801 in Alford Surrey he married Sophia Knight on 12th November 1822 in All Saints Parish Church Banstead Surrey. Sophia was b 1801 and d 24th August 1850 in Banstead Surrey. They had 5 children Thomas b 1824 Anne b 1826 William b 1829 Peter b1831 Jane b 1832 As for Elijahs parents, all I have is George and Jennifer m abt 1800 and that George d abt 1865 Hope this is all of some help Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "kburns" <kburns2@bigpond.com> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: [Penfold] Re: PENFOLD Webpage > Hello Julie, > > I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead > who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place > or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only > definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his > father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I > would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would > others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did > they died, and where. > > Kate > > > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Julie, I was interested to see you where you place Elijah PENFOLD of Banstead who is one of my relations. Up until your posting no-one could place or had a 'definite birth' for him and therefore his parents. The only definite thing for Elijah over the years has been the name of his father George. There has always been a query over 'which' George. I would be interested to know more about Elijah' parents - as would others - where did they live, did they have more children - when did they died, and where. Kate

Does anyone have any information please on JAMES PENFOLD born around 1833 in Pulborough? I have found him in the 1881 census living in Kent aged 48. His wife is Sophia & they had three sons, William, Frederick E and Edwin G. I found one record that says his parents were Peter & Sarah, but surely they can't be Peter, b.1777 & Sarah Burrage because that would make Sarah 54 when she had him! Many thanks Marilyn

Hello Heather, Re DORINDA PENFOLD and the 1851 census for West Chiltington,I can only think that it is a case either of bad hanndwriting by the enumerator or his writing has faded with age and the last digit of her age looks like an O on the photocopy rather than a 9 as it should be. As far as the 1841 census is concerned ages were rounded down to the nearest five years so Dorinda would have been aged between 45 and 49 which would give a date of birth between 1792 and 1796. With regard to BARTON PENFOLD I agree with yuor findings that the 1851 census is about right and that he was born in 1802. Turning now to the 1841 census,as with Dorinda,Bartons age has been rounded down to 35 whereas he was older probably 39 which would agree with the details you hold. I haven't been able to establish the relationship,if any, of Peter Penfold (44) Sarah (42) and Jane(15) to any particular line of Penfold's. Peter who according to the 1851 census was born in Surrey could have returned to his "roots" or drifted into West Chiltington. The same applies to Oliver. You mention James Greenfield in your note. There are three James Greenfield's shown in the 1851 census for West Chiltington ages 49,22 and 14. none seem to fit in with the Jame christened in 1817. There is also a James at Storrington age 4. The only connection Greenfield/Penfold I can find goes back to 1585 when a Thomas Greenfield married Jeanne Penfold by licence at Chichester on 23 July. Thomas was of Billingshurst,Sussex Although my Penfolds lived in or around Pulborough for many years I haven't,as yet been able to find any connection with the Barton Penfold line . Will keep you posted. Best wishes Stan Clark of Ifield.

Julie, I have just visited your website. I went to the section on Itchingfield and noticed William 1791. I have a direct link to William. He is my gt gt gt grandfather. I will be able to give you quite a bit on this line. Also linked are Louisa Rowland (Canada) and Julie Hughes-Owen (Australia) both on this list. I would be interested in knowing why you think that William moved to Henfield. He married Hannah Humphrey in Hartfield in 1821. At that time he was a widower. I know nothing of his former wife or whereabouts they lived. How have you progressed prior to John and Elizabeth Sandell ? I look forward to your response. Best regards, Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Martin" <julie@housemartin.f9.co.uk> To: <PENFOLD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:05 PM Subject: [Penfold] My Penfold Webpages > Hi All > > As promised my Penfold webpages are finally up and running. Hope they > prove useful to you. (Please bear with them as they are my first > attempt). They can be found at > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/house-martin/family/ > > Best wishes > Julie > > > ==== PENFOLD Mailing List ==== > Researching: Penfold, Pennifold, Penford and other variants > Email addresses subscribed to list: 146 > Penfold Resource Website: http://member.telpacific.com.au/kylee/penfold_genealogy/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >