Good Mornin' Fellow Listers and Stan: Have you by chance checked the LDS Library (or their website) for their transcript of the church record of baptism or birth? This would (or should) then give you a church where you should be able to find the record - if he was baptized in a church. Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Arney" <arney9thgeneration@yahoo.com> To: <payork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: [PAYork] Looking for DTP of Christian Arneys birth Hi, I have been searching, in vain, for DTP (Definitive Tangible Proof) of one Christian Arney's birth. He was born in York, York County, Pennsylvania about 1750, and his father was Jacob Arney. I have found many postings about Christian Arney,stating such, but not any actual record of his birth. Do these records still exist? If by chance they do, where can they be located? I live in Kansas, so a trip to Pennsylvania is not going to happen any time soon, but if these records do still exist, maybe they are on microfilm at a library that does library exchange. However, that's getting ahead of myself, first of all, do these records still exist? Thank you for your time, consideration, and cooperation, in this matter, I truly appreciate it. Sincerely, Stan Arney Wichita, KS