Claudia- I found one reference to Frederick RIDER in York County will abstracts. He and Mary KOCH were the executors of the German will of Johannes KOCH probated 10 June 1783. You might want to try to obtain a copy of that will so determine his connection to Johannes KOCH. Joan In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:59:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Birdwtchr2@aol.com writes: Need help finding the parents and wife of Frederick Reiter born 1750 in York county, Washington twp.. Pa, died 1809 same place. His wife was an unknown Lehman. His children were Ephriam born 1802, John, Catherine, Sophia, Barbara and Frederick 1774 who died 1830 and was married to Esther Fahnestock.. His name is variously listed as Reiter, Ridar and Rider. Ephriam Rider is my Greatgrandfather. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Im stumped.. claudia **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)