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Yes there is a list of burials, but it was done in the '30's. I don't know if anyone has done it recently. If you need it copied you can get a copy from the York County Historic Trust, 250 E. Market Street, York, PA. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

Is there a transcribed list of burials at Neimans. I am out of state and can't visit the cemetery. Is it still functioning? Can you write to a burial office?? Thanks Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: PAYORK-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 8:11 am Subject: Re: [PAYork] York County Cemetery and Church This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoyRuppert Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15013.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The posted information on Neimans is correct. The Christ's church you are referring to is most likely the Lutheran Church located in York @ 29 S. George Street, York PA 17401 This church was started in 1733. The church has a web site at http://www.christlutheranyork.com/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAYORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edmorrill33 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15005.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Prospect Hill Cemetery Section D John Ensminger b Oct 10, 1814 died Jan 9, 1889 wife Lousia b. Nov 7, 1819 d. Oct 25, 1877 Ellen b 17 Jan 1847 d. Oct 22,1922 75-9-5 Florence b. 16 Sept 1851 d. Aug 16, 1929 77-11-0 all on the same stone. Florence died at the State Hospital in Harrisburg where she had been for about a year. John's father is John 1782-1862 and his mother is Susanna Keller 1787-1843. John 1782 father is Henry 1723 (Alsace)-1789 Newberry Twp. John 1782 mother is Christina some say Orner and other spellings including Auer. Henry 1723 father is Peter bap. 1694 Waldhambach Alsace. He came to America in 1733. John born 1814 is in Windsor Twp in 1850. He first arrived in Windor in 1844. He was 21 in 1835 so he should be in the taxes from 1836-1843 somewhere other than Windsor. I didn't look for him in any other taxes. John married Lousia Weiser daughter of Samuel. I didn't try for Samuel's ancestors but I will if you want me to. John and Lousia's son Samuel was born 5 Dec 1844 according to the St Paul Lutheran in York records. Their son John b 1849 died in 1920. He married Lydia W. 1844-1925 and lived in Red Lion. John and Lousia also had a daughter Emma( Mrs Noah Crumbling) born 9 Sept 1855 married 4 June 1882. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edmorrill33 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15010.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1900 census Elias and his wife Lucinda are living in the Sparrows Point area of Baltuimore County Maryland as Elias Z Good born Nov 1832 Married 47 Years and 10 children and Lucinda is born jan 1837 and has 10 children of which 7 are alive. This makes their Marriage from June of 1852 to May 31 of 1853. Ekias Z Good 1832 -1912 and Lucinda 1839-1918 are burried at Mount Olivet cemetery in Fairview Township. Henry Billet married Mary Siple 13 August 1846 so she is not Lucinda's mother. The chue\rch record calls her Sophia. Also Peter Good married Catherine Hake 25 Jan 1844 so she is not Elias' mother. Is there another Catherine who married Peter Good (GUTH) earlier? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: historycrazy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/854.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Correction to the query of the family of William B. Ewing. historycrazy LSKwvhomes@aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: historycrazy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/854.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Rosannah Ewing married John B. Gray 1848 in Nicholas County (W)VA. There was the name of William B. Ewing on the marriage documents. The family may have come from Greenbrier County (W)VA. Looking for any info on the Ewing family. historycrazy LSKwvhomes2aol.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Cpaystrup Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15013.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been there in my search for the Neilers/Naylors and those related to them in both Neimans and Shiloh. Go out from downtown York out west on 74 toward Shiloh and come to a road called Church Road I believe it is 238. Neimans is on the NE corner. The Lutheran Church is on the NW corner. Shiloh Cemetery is on the SW corner. Naylors lived on the SE side of the street but owned a lot of that land there once. Good luck. I just loved the fall colors of PA. ...CAT in UT Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jeffrey_Bernstein Surnames: Ewing Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/854.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would be interested in more information on the children of Alexander Ewing that you mention especially any sources that link both James and John as siblings. Currently, I have a good biography of Alexander Ewing's son Rev. James Wesley Ewing(born 1786) who married 3 times and had 15 children. 11 of the children were with his second wife Justina Grove. The full biography is attached to my tree, see the following link: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=7116564&pid=-1160917836 I also have information on a John Ewing who married Lydia Godfrey. Lydia Godfrey's sister Sarah Godfrey married Justina Grove's brother John Grove, Jr. Thus I am guessing that John Ewing and Rev. James Wesley Ewing may be siblings. John Ewing and wife Lydia are listed in the 1850 census in Fawn, York County, Pennsylvania as age 49, but I have found Lydia's birth record in Saddler's Church for Dec 1795 and suspect John Ewing is about the same age. Any information linking John Ewing and Rev. James Wesley Ewing together as siblings would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

According to a Rootsweb site a Peter Good ,son of John, married a Catherine Zorger daughter of Jacob Zorger ,on 12 Jan 1831 and had a son Elias (maybe the Z stood for Zorger) in 1832. The site is called Genealogy of Hugh and Marion Zorger. Good luck . Nanette **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mcjdemig_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15013.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have found a reference on the web for Neiman's cemetery. I hope that it is of some use to you? http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=289218 -Mike Emig Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks Nanette I will keep this citation in my Steele notes. The Rachel I am looking for must of been married into the Steele family because of great grandchildren. But any little tidbit to try and sort these Steeles out is nice. It gets so hard to find documentation on the different families when you get back further in time. Marie **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

PA Cemetery law can be found at this link _http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=1956&&SortOrder=120&level=3&parentCommID=1875&me nuLevel=Level_3&mode=2&in_hi_userid=2&cached=true_ (http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=1956&&SortOrder=120&level=3&parentCommID=1 875&menuLevel=Level_3&mode=2&in_hi_userid=2&cached=true) Here is a snipit of what you will find. _Cemetery Companies: Interment rights, restore and maintain Act of November 24, 1992 (P.L. 730, No. 110)_ (http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bhp/protection/CEMETERY%20COMPANIES%20-%20INTERMENT%20RIGHTS,%20RESTORE%20AND%20MAINTAIN.pdf) This act states that interment rights may be deemed abandoned if they were granted by a cemetery company or burial association; if they were not used for 50 years; and if the owners or their heirs cannot be located. The act also stipulates that ownership of previously deemed abandoned grounds may be regained (or similar right may be awarded) if owners present themselves within 30 years after the interment rights have been deemed abandoned. This act also states that burial ground caretaker organizations or landowners are not obligated to keep a burial ground "safe for entry or use by others or to give any warning of a dangerous condition, use, structure, or activity on the premises of a historical burial place." However, the act also notes that burial ground caretaker organizations or landowners may be found libelous "for willful or malicious failure to guard or warn against a dangerous condition, use, structure, or activity on the premises of a historic burial place." Note: See below for definition of Historic burial place. _Historic Burial Places Preservation Act of April 29, 1994 (P.L. 141, No. 22)_ (http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bhp/protection/HISTORIC%20BURIAL%20PLACES%20PRESERVATION%20ACT.pdf) This Act defines "Historic burial place" as "A tract of land that has been in existance as a burial ground for more than 100 years wherein there have been not burials for at least 50 years and wherein there will be no future burials or listed in or eligible for the National Register of Historic Places as determined by the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission." It further states that municipalities may not use eminent domain to take a historic burial ground for an alternate use. PHMC approval must be given before a burial ground is taken for "public use." If the burial ground is taken for public use, then the burial ground authority must preserve a record of what was removed. This record must be sent to the county and PHMC. Furthermore, this Act also stipulates that the following actions are illegal: the removals of a fence, tomb, monument, gravestone, or fragment. These actions are legal only if the object(s) is being removed with consent of the owner or descendent and a court order for the purpose of "repair or replacement, reproduction or preservation and display in an accredited museum." In a message dated 11/7/2008 8:21:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kathy_lf@verizon.net writes: This is not true. Here is the link if you would like to read about the law. http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bhp/protection/CEMETERY%20COMPAN IES%20-%20INTERMENT%20RIGHTS,%20RESTORE%20AND%20MAINTAIN.pdf Kathy -----Original Message----- From: payork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:payork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reneelwaring@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:08 PM To: payork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAYork] York County Cemetery and Church I believe PA state law says if their hasn't been an internment in 20 years the land owner has the right to do whatever he wants with the land. Many older cemeteries in upstate PA have been destroyed because of this law. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. 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Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAYORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAYORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

This is not true. Here is the link if you would like to read about the law. http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bhp/protection/CEMETERY%20COMPAN IES%20-%20INTERMENT%20RIGHTS,%20RESTORE%20AND%20MAINTAIN.pdf Kathy -----Original Message----- From: payork-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:payork-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reneelwaring@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:08 PM To: payork@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAYork] York County Cemetery and Church I believe PA state law says if their hasn't been an internment in 20 years the land owner has the right to do whatever he wants with the land. Many older cemeteries in upstate PA have been destroyed because of this law. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x12007984 98/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holi days-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAYORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe PA state law says if their hasn't been an internment in 20 years the land owner has the right to do whatever he wants with the land. Many older cemeteries in upstate PA have been destroyed because of this law. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

Those that were moved from Christ Lutheran to Prospect hill are on the right-side as you drive through the main gate. Thanks! Don & Jeanine Hartman FamilyHart http://familyhart.info Rootsweb List Admins for: Pennsylvania, PADutchGenONLY, Penna-Dutch, PAAdams, PAYork, PA-York-Gen, MD-Fred-Gen, MDWashin, Burket, Dierdorff, Gotshall, Glattfelder, Hartman, Kohr, Kaufman, Shirk, Sturm USGENWEB CCs for: Adams Co., PA; Franklin Co., PA; Lancaster Co., PA; York Co., PA; Frederick Co., MD; Washington Co., MD Any family information sent to FamilyHart implies permission to use that information online without limitation for genealogical purposes. In a message dated 11/07/08 14:24:25 Mountain Standard Time, Reneelwaring writes: In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:29:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hweigle1@cox.net writes: Supposedly, Johann Martin Weigel (11 Nov 1703 - 31 Jan 1759) was buried in the Christ Lutheran Church church-yard. However, I have never been able to locate his tombstone at either the church or Prospect Hill Cemetery. If anyone knows the location of his tombstone, please let me know. Thanks. Harold A. Weigle hweigle1@cox.net In 1956 The Federal Government paid someone to go around all the counties of PA and list the tombstones found there. Some of these records remain in private hands, some ended up in the local library. For York County they were given to the County Library who, when they needed the space more, donated the work to the local Historical Society. They will not publish the info, someone a few years ago told me they made over 200,000. in one year from writeins and they need the money to keep the HS going. They charge $50. dollars per request plus .20 cents per page (this info might be outdated). They might have the info on Johann Martin Weigel that you are looking for. Renee L. Waring Renee L. Waring **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAYORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> >. I seriously doubt any bodies > were moved--they seldom do that--just move the stones. > Actually, I have found a book in the Deeds Vault here in Cumberland County, NC, of graves exhumed and moved for whatever reason (land sold to someone outside of family, road expansion, etc.) They exhumed the caskets and stones and moved them either to other private land or a chuch cemetery. Since YOU HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL by the court to exhume a grave, there should be a listing of this in the local courthouse. Like I said, my county has a book of names of the dead, where they were originally buried, dates of birth and death, and where they were transferred to. You may wish to call the courthouse of the county you believe the burial took place and see if they don't have documentation of the event. Blessings, Janet

Thanks. I've been to the York Historical Trust a number of times, but I have never been able to find any solid documentation on the whereabouts of his tombstone. Harold A. Weigle hweigle1@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Reneelwaring@aol.com> To: <payork@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [PAYork] York County Cemetery and Church In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:29:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hweigle1@cox.net writes: Supposedly, Johann Martin Weigel (11 Nov 1703 - 31 Jan 1759) was buried in the Christ Lutheran Church church-yard. However, I have never been able to locate his tombstone at either the church or Prospect Hill Cemetery. If anyone knows the location of his tombstone, please let me know. Thanks. Harold A. Weigle hweigle1@cox.net In 1956 The Federal Government paid someone to go around all the counties of PA and list the tombstones found there. Some of these records remain in private hands, some ended up in the local library. For York County they were given to the County Library who, when they needed the space more, donated the work to the local Historical Society. They will not publish the info, someone a few years ago told me they made over 200,000. in one year from writeins and they need the money to keep the HS going. They charge $50. dollars per request plus .20 cents per page (this info might be outdated). They might have the info on Johann Martin Weigel that you are looking for. Renee L. Waring Renee L. Waring **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAYORK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:29:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hweigle1@cox.net writes: Supposedly, Johann Martin Weigel (11 Nov 1703 - 31 Jan 1759) was buried in the Christ Lutheran Church church-yard. However, I have never been able to locate his tombstone at either the church or Prospect Hill Cemetery. If anyone knows the location of his tombstone, please let me know. Thanks. Harold A. Weigle hweigle1@cox.net In 1956 The Federal Government paid someone to go around all the counties of PA and list the tombstones found there. Some of these records remain in private hands, some ended up in the local library. For York County they were given to the County Library who, when they needed the space more, donated the work to the local Historical Society. They will not publish the info, someone a few years ago told me they made over 200,000. in one year from writeins and they need the money to keep the HS going. They charge $50. dollars per request plus .20 cents per page (this info might be outdated). They might have the info on Johann Martin Weigel that you are looking for. Renee L. Waring Renee L. Waring **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, daveludwig@earthlink.net writes: This church name always confused me. There is a Christ Lutheran in downtown York, but there is also a Christ Lutheran Church in Spry, at the corner of Queen Street extended (PA74) and Church Street. Dave Ludwig Researching Ludwig, Falkenstine, Shearer, Kreidler in Pennsylvania, and Pauley and Butler in Illinois FYI Dave. I noticed the name Shearer above. Did you know that it is also written as Jury and Shirer? I have a Jury family in upstate PA and the name was broken up and can be found as Jury, Shirer, Shearer, and Shira etc. in the Church records. Definitely German. Renee L. Waring **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)