Lou: I'll leave it to somebody more learned in the subject to give you the theological differences between Quakers and Mennonites. They are both anabaptist (adult baptism) religions. But for most genealogical purposes, you can think of the Quakers as from the British Isles and the Mennonites as from Switzerland and Germany. If your immigrant ancestors were English, Welsh, etc in the right time period, look for Quaker records. If they were German or Swiss (or perhaps you've traced them to a Dutch port), Mennonite or another anabapism church is more likely. You can find some examples of descendants of early immigrant Mennonites becoming Quaker in Pennsylvania, And I would not be completely surprised if the reverse also happened, although I don't have any examples in my research. -- Karl Seitz > > >RB, I have a question and hope you, or other listmember, will answer: what >is the difference between Mennonite and Quaker? > >Yes, I have done the google bit, but still don't understand. > >TIA > >Lou >

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Nancy Lorz <[email protected]>wrote: > I must stick my nose into the 'proof of information' discussion. I have > found errors on death certificates, marriage licenses/certificates, > newspaper obituaries, and even books about family histories. One book has > my grgrgrandfather, Andrew Grove, married to Rachel Boyer. In reality, he > was married to her sister, Rebecca Boyer. An aunt of mine told me that my > grgrgrandfather, Isaac Miller, had fought at Gettysburg. Even showed me > his > name on the Penna monument. After much time spent tracking this man, I > found out that it was the wrong Isaac Miller. However, I met many great > people on the way. Just thought I'd mention these tidbits. Who or what > can > you trust?? > N. M. Lorz > Hi N.M. Lorz: IMHO, if we were not an eyewitness to the event, any event, we can not _prove_ it happened. We do the best we can: gather all extant records and make a decision, draw conclusions, based on the records we have found; publish our findings and ask for constructive criticisms and documentary evidence of our error, if any. Sounds like you are on the right track. By following each person from cradle to grave, we will likely find the answer we seek. Time-consuming and expensive, oh, yes, but accurately completed. You have heard the old saying: it is true because it is in print? You can now refute that old saying----- Best of luck. Lou > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed > to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may > not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking > on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Epayork/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

If you are interested in Mennonite genealogy you could check out a book published in 2004 on the Mennonites in Franklin Co. PA and Washington Co. MD.  It is some 900 pages long. You can buy it from the LCMHS:   Building on the Gospel Foundation... 1730-1970 by Edsel Burdge Jr. and Samuel L. Horst.    It is not without a few errors in tracing some of the early Mennonite families back to Lancaster Co. in the very early years.    There has also been another huge Mennonite book published in the past few years.  It is over 1,000 pages long, and takes a county by county approach, in PA, OH, and elsewhere.  Can anyone help me recall the title?  I should recheck it myself as I've done so much more research after I first obtained it by interlibrary loan that I'd probably do well to recheck in it.    Much of the confusion/errors in pre 1850 genealogical research comes from many people with the same names living in the same counties.  For example, I have been researching a Christian Hershey who married a Mary Good.  At the same time a couple of other Christian Hersheys were living there in the late 1700's and early 1800s.  I found a couple of wills in York Co. with mention of the Christian Hershey name.  One John Hershey left in his will to both his son Christian Hershey and his son-in-law Christian Hershey.  John Hershey appears in a census record next to a Christian Hershey, but this could have been either his son, son-in-law, or the one I've been researching who left York Co. Mary Good  Hershey is said to have died in York Co., but there is no tombstone for her, and the Christian Hershey who left York Co. continues on with a wife in the same age range as Mary Good  Hershey.   Genealogy is like a box of chocolates:  if you pick them up wihout paying attention to where they were originally you can get them all mixed up, whether they are  Hersheys or not!   RB

I must stick my nose into the 'proof of information' discussion. I have found errors on death certificates, marriage licenses/certificates, newspaper obituaries, and even books about family histories. One book has my grgrgrandfather, Andrew Grove, married to Rachel Boyer. In reality, he was married to her sister, Rebecca Boyer. An aunt of mine told me that my grgrgrandfather, Isaac Miller, had fought at Gettysburg. Even showed me his name on the Penna monument. After much time spent tracking this man, I found out that it was the wrong Isaac Miller. However, I met many great people on the way. Just thought I'd mention these tidbits. Who or what can you trust?? N. M. Lorz

This discussion has reminded me that the Mennonite Church has a website containing obits from several of their newspapers. For those not familiar with it, here's the web address. Be sure and read "About the Indexes" when you get to the Index page. I hope someone out there finds something useful! http://www.mcusa-archives.org/MennObits/index.html Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Lupinacci" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [PAYork] Mennonite records of early York County and otherPAcounties > And to add my 2 cents again on the Lancaster Mennonite Society records - > I > also found all the information invoked by the mention of using records to > be > very interesting and helpful. Hopefully all researchers know not to > believe > everything they read! It is a jumping off point and then you can either > accept the information or reject it and keep searching. > > I had mentioned the obituaries that are available and there can't be any > error on the part of the LMS with them as they are just photo copying what > was in the newspaper! The only error there could be from the relative of > the > deceased who gave the information to the funeral home who gave it to the > newspaper. So, therefore, I would take obituary information as being > correct. > > Thanks to all on the list for all the good suggestions and information. It > is all so helpful. I read all the postings as they arrive whether it is a > surname I am researching or not, as there are often suggestions posted > that > any one could benefit from. > > Sue Lupinacci >

And to add my 2 cents again on the Lancaster Mennonite Society records - I also found all the information invoked by the mention of using records to be very interesting and helpful. Hopefully all researchers know not to believe everything they read! It is a jumping off point and then you can either accept the information or reject it and keep searching. I had mentioned the obituaries that are available and there can't be any error on the part of the LMS with them as they are just photo copying what was in the newspaper! The only error there could be from the relative of the deceased who gave the information to the funeral home who gave it to the newspaper. So, therefore, I would take obituary information as being correct. Thanks to all on the list for all the good suggestions and information. It is all so helpful. I read all the postings as they arrive whether it is a surname I am researching or not, as there are often suggestions posted that any one could benefit from. Sue Lupinacci On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Sam Silvey <[email protected]> wrote: > I want to thank everyone that has chimed in on my original post inquiring > about Mennonite records! The discussion has been very informative and I > appreciate everyone's help. > > I have found over the years that if I want information and guidance I can > get it in short order by subscribing to the Rootsweb boards. I can attend > class after class on research tips but where the 'rubber meets the road' is > by talking with the local Rootsweb people! > > In the few weeks I've been working in the York area I've been the recipient > of much information and have learned a lot about the availability of > records. I will never be an expert at this but I know many of you are very > specialized in certain areas. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise > with me and the others on this board. > > Sincerely, > Sam Silvey > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK > > > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed > to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may > not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking > on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

There is no disputing the value of doing your own research. Fact of the matter is most records available online or elsewhere were compiled by human beings and there are errors. For those of us who have more than 20 years in doing this work, we know not to just trust what a researcher scribbles down. Without documentation there is no proof. Sometimes it just does not exist. Old time researchers had to travel and do the hard work. Some did it right, others just plugged in names that fit and that was close enough.That has not changed. Some want it right others will just grab a hold of any shirttail in the wind. While the Internet has benefited us by removing some of the need to travel to the records it has also caused a great dis-service by multiplying the errors which others copy onward. So always take it as a clue, a place to start from. Even though there maybe errors in the Lancaster Co. Mennonite Society works they still hold the oldest and largest Mennonite record collection available. The whole purpose of this work is to "LEARN" who your family is. There is no getting around doing the work if you want the truth.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StephenDennehy29 Surnames: Moser Frankenberger Frankenberry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15239.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There's no known relationship between Valentine Moser and Abraham. Valentine was b. 1730 probably in the Kingdom of Saxony in Germany, son of Johannes and _______ (prob. Frankenberger) Moser. the mother probably died in or shortly after childbirth with Valentine. Valentine had one sibling--brother Conrad b. c. 1728. The father and 2 sons immigrated in 1738 and settled in Oley Twp., Philadelphia Co. (this area became Berks Co. in 1752). The father Johannes died Nov. 1744 and John Frankenberger of Oley Twp. was appt. admin . of the estate and guardian of Conrad-16 and Valentine-14. Sometime between 1744 and 1749 John Frankenberger (AKA Frankenberry) and family, including his orphaned nephews, settled in Paradise Twp., York Co. They had all been Lutheran but Conrad and Valentine became Dunkards (German Baptist Brethern); not sure if John Frankenberger did. Probably Conrad's wife Ann (mar. by 1764) and Valentine's wife Juliana came from Dunkard families. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I want to thank everyone that has chimed in on my original post inquiring about Mennonite records! The discussion has been very informative and I appreciate everyone's help. I have found over the years that if I want information and guidance I can get it in short order by subscribing to the Rootsweb boards. I can attend class after class on research tips but where the 'rubber meets the road' is by talking with the local Rootsweb people! In the few weeks I've been working in the York area I've been the recipient of much information and have learned a lot about the availability of records. I will never be an expert at this but I know many of you are very specialized in certain areas. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise with me and the others on this board. Sincerely, Sam Silvey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rricabee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15239.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Was Valentine Moser related to Abraham Moser of Windsor T., York Co., and have you researched his son in law Jacob Good's family on down? I also have a family that lived in both Paradise York/ and Berwick Twps Adams Co., that was carved out of York at a later date. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

*what about Quakers? This was a most informative note and answered a lot of quetions which i marked down as brick walls and so many of the. i did get some help from one census but then they disappeared. thanks for the information.* *pat * *[email protected]* * * On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Richard Allen <[email protected]>wrote: > I would like to comment about researching Mennonite and other PA Dutch > groups in > York and Lancaster Counties and elsewhere. The recommendation was to check > with > the Lancaster Co. Mennonite Society. And in the past I have seen > recommendations as to consulting with the works of Richard Warren Davis as > well. There is some merit with checking with their works, as those > publications > have many helpful footnotes with sites to sources, but I have found the > work of > both have many errors and mistaken identities, just as consulting computer > postings in various databases is full of errors on the Mennonites and PA > Dutch > families and how they related to one another. So much so, that it would be > challenging to establish any realiable Mennonite heritage through > exclusively > relying on their works. > > It is best to independently do your own work, preferably by doing it > off-line > with manila folders and pencil, and research individuals or family > households > one at a time, rather than downloading ged-coms or trees of other > researchers, > though it is worth examining those if you carefully and independently > determine > their accuracy. The faster something has been put together the less likely > it > will be accurate, and the larger the database the less likely it will be > accurate. Many posts have year only dates of birth for children, with > those > years evenly spaced out, or with huge gaps in years between some children. > Those are sometimes clues that the information has only been wildly guessed > at. > The tendency to give children the same family names also has meant many a > good > researcher has even slipped up by confusing two or more individuals with > the > same identical names. > > > The best research always seems to be done by those who research entire > families > of interrelated people, but often these studies have been confined within > county > borders, when in fact the PA Dutch appear to have moved back and forth > between > counties to a considerable extent, as you have found yourself with your > Kindigs, > who also intermarried with my family in York Co. They were often seeking > better > economic opportunities, but often moved in extended family networks. I > think > the Mennonite families may be the most challenging because of the lack of > church > records, and think also that many rented from other families or Mennonites > rather than always owning land. > > RB > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mennonite records of early York County and > LancasterCounties (Pam Pearson) > > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed > to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may > not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking > on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I would like to comment about researching Mennonite and other PA Dutch groups in York and Lancaster Counties and elsewhere.  The recommendation was to check with the Lancaster Co. Mennonite Society.  And in the past I have seen recommendations as to consulting with the works of Richard Warren Davis as well.  There is some merit with checking with their works, as those publications have many helpful footnotes with sites to sources, but I have found the work of both have many errors and mistaken identities, just as consulting computer postings in various databases is full of errors on the Mennonites and PA Dutch families and how they related to one another.  So much so, that it would be challenging to establish any realiable Mennonite heritage through exclusively relying on their works.   It is best to independently do your own work, preferably by doing it off-line with manila folders and pencil, and research individuals or family households one at a time, rather than downloading ged-coms or trees of other researchers, though it is worth examining those if you carefully and independently determine their accuracy.  The faster something has been put together the less likely it will be accurate, and the larger the database the less likely it will be accurate.  Many posts have year only dates of birth for children, with those years evenly spaced out, or with huge gaps in years between some children.  Those are sometimes clues that the information has only been wildly guessed at. The tendency to give children the same family names also has meant many a good researcher has even slipped up by confusing two or more individuals with the same identical names. The best research always seems to be done by those who research entire families of interrelated people, but often these studies have been confined within county borders, when in fact the PA Dutch appear to have moved back and forth between counties to a considerable extent, as you have found yourself with your Kindigs, who also intermarried with my family in York Co.  They were often seeking better economic opportunities, but often moved in extended family networks.  I think the Mennonite families may be the most challenging because of the lack of church records, and think also that many rented from other families or Mennonites rather than always owning land. RB Today's Topics:   1. Re: Mennonite records of early York County and       LancasterCounties (Pam Pearson)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertBlakely12 Surnames: WILSON, BLACKBURN, CHAPMAN, SOMERVILLE, BROWN, BIRD Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15240/mb.ashx Message Board Post: For the past decade, I have been searching for the parents of my ancestor Brown WILSON. Our Wilson family bible has record of him being born Dec 26, 1786. From there, there is no public record of him until he married Susannah BLACKBURN in Clark County, IN Sept 9, 1815 (no parent record included). I have traced her BLACKBURN ancestors back to Ireland. Brown and Susannah were probably in Kentucky in 1820, as their daughter, Caroline (WILSON) CHAPMAN, lists her birthplace in several records as Kentucky at that time. He is not the slightly older Brown WILSON (b. abt 1776 ENG) who shows up in Butler County, OH records in the years of 1807 to 1823 married to Mary BURNS, as that Brown WILSON is confirmed to have died in 1823 - I've even seen the gravestone. My Brown WILSON shows up in 1830 in Edgar County, Illinois Census records, and appears there every decade until his death in 1872. He joined the Presbyterian Church in 1843, was kicked out 10 years later in 1853, but buried ! in the Presbyterian cemetery in Edgar County. He was a land surveyor. All of his Edgar County census records list his birth as 1786 or 1787, most with a birthplace of Pennsylvania, with a couple listing Berks County, PA as his birthplace. Interestingly, census records (especially those recorded of his children) often indicate his birthplace as Virginia, and sometimes, Kentucky, however. Brown and Susannah BLACKBURN (b. 1792 KY to James and Mary [unknown last name]BLACKBURN) had these children: Unknown male b betw 1816-1820 (prob KY) Unknown fem b betw 1816-1820 (prob KY) Caroline, b Sep 9 1820 in Kentucky m. Joseph CHAPMAN Unknown male b betw 1821-1825 (prob KY) Unknown fem b betw 1821-1825 (prob KY) Joseph A. b abt 1827-8 in IL (prob Edg. Cty) Robert Blackburn b Oct 15 1828 in IL (prob Edg. Cty) Susan b abt 1834 in IL (prob Edg. Cty) A James WILSON (b 1830) and wife Nancy appear next to Brown in the 1850 Census - he very well could also be a son of Brown. Brown also married Mary (Alexander)SOMERVILLE [Sommerville, Summerville]on Jan 2, 1839 in Edgar County IL. They had no children. As an aside, there is plenty of 'family legend' stuff, etc. surrounding Brown. My grandmother WILSON is quite insistent that the family has always been told that Brown is the son of James WILSON, the signer of the Declaration of Independence, etc., and she is the great granddaughter of Brown, so the connection is close. Highly unlikely, of course. Though there are things that offer a glimmer of possibility - James the signer spent much time in Berks County PA, was a Presbyterian, and married his first wife, Rachel BIRD, in Douglasville, Amity, Berks in the mid-1770's. However, Rachel died several months before Brown was born in our bible record, and James did not remarry for several years. Any child born on Dec 26, 1786 would have been out of wedlock and therefore unlikely. My grandmother asserts that records could have been erased or changed, as James's sons disappeared because they did not want to be responsible for the huge debts James died with at his death - he was ! a prodigious land speculator and died being hounded by creditors, even spending time in jail, despite the fact that he was a Supreme Court judge and one of the heroes and great minds of the American Revolution and Constitution. This could be seen to fit with the fact that my Brown WILSON only shows up in public records so far in 1815, at age 29. Regardless of that, I see my best leads are to look at the 1790 Federal Census records for Berks County, and I see only three WILSONs listed in Berks at that time. I am attempting to learn more about these WILSONs: John WILSON, Amity Twp. John WILSON, Exeter Twp. Alexander WILSON, Windsor Twp. It sure would help if one of them married a BROWN or had the middle name BROWN.... Can anyone help me find the parents of this rather stubborn ancestor? Thanks in advance. You may also reach me at [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kphillips70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/1903.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any info on his siblings? I am looking for a James King b. Oct 1820 in PN or OH. His obit says PN but the death cert. for his son John says OH. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StephenDennehy29 Surnames: Moser Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15239/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to identify the family of Juliann / Julianna b. c. 1740, mar. Valentine Moser c. 1758 in the Paradise/ Berwick Twps., area of York Co. (Paradise on the border of Adams Co. (formed 1800 from York Co.; Berwick after that date in Adams Co.); they went to Frederick Co., Md. c. 1764., then to Springhill Twp. Fayette Co., Pa. where Valentine d. 1811. Juliann d. 12 Sept. 1829 in Georges Twp., Fayette Co. Children: Jacob Christina Abraham Catherine Valentine John Nancy Julianna Mary Sussanah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sclarke445 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/1681.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I will be going to Prospect Cemetery on Sunday,Sept.5,2010,do you still need info?I will try to find it for you if so.Sandra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 45fallingstarz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15238.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great Grandfathers place of origin is sktchy at best I have no clue where he really lived and with whom my GREAT GREAT grand parents were. He settled either in Chicago Illinois or in or near Milwaukee wisconsin...he didnt go to texas or philadelphia.I dont know the name of the port anymore he left from...just thought I would add some additional information...he ended up homesteading and dieing quite poorly...Im wondering WHY HE LEFT GERMANY? Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 45fallingstarz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15238/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great grandfather departed from germany in the year of 1891; from the records I have found (with help). I'm searching for ANY of the sisters or brothers children/childrens children of his sisters or brothers (if any) he would have left behind there. email me at my email address or call me if we have a match!!! [email protected] 1-715) 392-1878 my land line phone call in early to late evenings. Thank You!!! Christine Schmidt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

*does this apply to Quakers also.? * On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Sue Lupinacci <[email protected]>wrote: > Listers: > If I might add my two cents about the wonderful www.lmhs.org ....they have > available many obituaries from the Lancaster County area (mostly from the > 20th century) and they can be ordered by mail at a very reasonable;e cost. > I > recently ordered quite a few and they have been most helpful in my family > history research. > Sue L. researching Dibeler/Deibler, Albright, Hoff, Books, Jacobs, Lentz, > Birebower > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sam, > > > > Lancaster Co Mennonite Historical Society is your best bet. > > _http://www.lmhs.org/Home/Research/Library_ > > (http://www.lmhs.org/Home/Research/Library) > > > > > > In a message dated 8/30/2010 11:41:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Dear PAYork Listers, > > > > > > > > Could someone enlighten me on the availability of Mennonite records, > > marriage, baptism, etc. for the time period of early 1700's York to > about > > 1810? Do such records exist in this society? > > > > > > > > I'm needing some guidance in locating the best sources for Mennonite > > records > > of the York area or possibly of Lancaster. I am researching a Daniel > > Kindig > > who is possibly related to Henry Kindig of Hellam Twp. > > > > > > > > The Henry Kindig property was in close proximity of the Kreutz Creek > > Church > > and early records do not show a Kindig affiliation to this local > > congregation. Daniel Kindig married Susannah Weigle in 1803 at Christ > > Lutheran in York City but I've not found the Kindig family with strong > > ties > > to this Lutheran congregation either. > > > > > > > > We believe Daniel and Susannah later removed to Cumberland Co by 1810 > but > > family traditions show some of the first children should have been born > in > > York. > > > > > > > > As I continue to ferret out other information about the Kindig family I > am > > very aware of the Lancaster Co. families and the possible tie in to > Martin > > Kindig who came to Lancaster Co about 1710 or his brother Jacob who came > > later in 1717. These people were some of the early Mennonites as I'm > > beginning to understand the local history. > > > > > > > > Probate records in Lancaster Co. reveal that Henry Kindig of Hellam Twp. > > was > > from Lancaster and that he received a large inheritance of property from > > his > > father George, this same property had been bequeathed to George from his > > father George as well. Henry sold his property in 1779 and in that same > > year > > he is found on the tax lists in York in Hellam twp. > > > > > > > > I've become somewhat familiar with the Lutheran records as I have found > > ample information published on them. Any insights to the Mennonite > records > > or other church records would be most helpful. Thank you in advance for > > your help. > > > > > > > > Sam Silvey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam Silvey > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* > > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK > > ********* > > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are > > gatewayed to this Mailing List. 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