Because of the recent discussion on the Kendig and Strickler families of Hellam Twp, I am passing this onto this list from the Lancaster Co group. The Lancaster Intelligencer: Tues. 11 Jan. 1848: Deaths: Page 3 STRICKLER.-At his residence, near Columbia, on the morning of the 6th inst., Jacob STRICKLER, Esq., in the 60th year of his age. The Lancaster Intelligencer: Tues. 18 Jan. 1848: Deaths: Page 3 KENDIG.-We have the mournful intelligence to record of the death of Mr. Benjamin KENDIG, which occurred at the National Bridge, in Mexico, on the 1st of November, of dropsy. The deceased was aged 24 years, 1 month and 18 days, and was a much respected son of Adam KENDIG, Esq., of Conestoga township, Lancaster county. He was a member of Capt. Doland's company, attached to the District of Maryland volunteer batallion [sic], and marched form Baltimore for Mexico in July last. In announcing the melancholy news of his death, Capt. Dolan pays him a warm and affectionate tribute. He says: "It seemd to me more like losing a friend than a soldier under my command. He had rendered himself near and dear to me by his good qualities and excellent behavior, and was much beloved by all his fellow-soldiers." Peace to his ashes! These and other Civil War era newspapers can be viewed online using the "Browse Archive" feature at: http://digitalnewspapers.libraries.psu.edu/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edmorrill786 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15191.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nathaniel's obit mentions Fred Austin as a step brother living in Red Lion besides what you already have. Fred, Emma and Harry are children of Catherine Austin March 20, 1838-Dec 22, 1928 and William Austin September 17, 1839- April 18,1880 from their tombstone at Mt Zion Cemetery. Emma Aug 6,1871-June 6, 1925 Fred May 15, 1873-1 Jan 1945 Harry died 12 Oct 1938 at the York Co. home age 69-9-17 which calculates to a birth of Dec 12, 1868. Their mother Catherine is born in MD to parents born in Germany. Census records have fred's father born Germany and PA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dkohlerx2_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/14824.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please revisit the 1920 census for this household. The enumerator wrote a very stylized capital "S" that looks like a "D". If you compare how they wrote the words "Son" and "Daughter" or "Smith, Stump, Smeltzer" vs. "Dellinger, Deitrick", you will see the difference between their S & D. It does not appear that anyone was noted as divorced on the 2 pages that the Smith/Kohler household was included. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Michael W Lau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/14714.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have the obit but the York County marriage book 3-M, certificate 57666 is for Bertha Maude Hearn and Perry Keeney Kroh. Both were widowed - she on May 7,1940 and he on Oct. 31,1938. They were married in Seven Valleys, York County on Apr. 12,1942. Bertha gave her parents to be Andrew I. Foster, born in Mifflin County and Clara M. Lang, born in Huntingdon County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Michael W Lau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/14824.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cora Esther Kohler, born Feb. 6,1894 was the daughter of Adin Kohler and his wife, Flora J. nee Kramer. Her older sister was Mabel Marie, the wife of Chester R. Smith. On Dec. 8,1920 Cora married George W. Springle which is recorded in York County marriage book 2-Q on page 95. You could try obtaining a copy of the marriage license application from the York County archives. My record does not indicate her having a prior marriage. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wvhunibee Surnames: Givens Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/597.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: this helps...thanks....Ces Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StephenDennehy29 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15239.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm assuming orphaned Conrad aged abt. 16 and Valentine aged 14 went to live with John Frankenberger , accompanied him to Paradise Twp., York Co. when he moved there 1744-1749 and most likely married in that area, probably to woman who came from Dunkard (German Baptist Brethern) families. I haven';t seen any relationship stated for John and Conrad and Valentine, but the fact that John was a 26 yr. old single man, appt. admin. of Johannes Moser's estate and guardian of 2 teenagers, points to a close relationship. Have you seen any record that specifically states John Frankenberger is their uncle ? I find it very odd that we can't find any record so far on Conrad ebefore his purchased of land in Frederick Co., Md. in 1764 when he was aged abt. 36, or for Valentine before his purchase of land in Frederick Co. in 1771 when he was 41. So far nothing in Frederick Co., Md. or York, Lancaster or Berks Co., Pa. There has to be some record someplace. Steve Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Fellow Listers: I just received a flier for the following... which I will transcribe here. Please note that I am not involved in any way with this society or the tours... just passing along the word. Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ***************************** History comes alive at the Camp Curtin Historical Society's Harrisburg Cemetery Tours on Sunday, September 12, 2010. Tours will leave from the Caretaker's House at 12:30 p.m., 1:15 p.m., 2:30 p.m. and 3:00 p.m.. Tours will be conducted by local historians James Schmick, George Nagle and Bruce Horner. Visit the graves and hear the stories of numerous personalities who influenced local, state and national events in the 19th century. Visitors will learn about Lincoln's first Secretary of War, Simon Cameron, and Brig. Gen. Joseph Knipe, the man who named Camp Curtin. They will hear the story of the Confederates buried in Harrisburg, admire Maj. Gen. John Geary's beautifully restored monument, and see Mary Todd Lincoln's great grandfather's grave. The tours will visit more than two dozen "residents" of the cemetery. Display of Civil War artifacts and presentations by living historians, including the odd Victorian custom of picnicking at a grave. Adults - $5.00 (CCHS Members - $4.00) All children under 16 years - $1.00 The Harrisburg Cemetery is at the eastern end of the State Street Bridge. For information call (717) 732-5115 or e-mail: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eringrizzelli1 Surnames: johnson, sheckenbaugh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/8349.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know that this message is a few years late, however I have some information that may help you in the Johnson search. I believe Andrew Johnson's father was Joseph Johnson born in Ireland circa 1813 or 1814 and a death date of February 27, 1894. I also have information that list his spouse as Sarah. Andrew is listed as having two sisters Elizabeth born circa 1844 and Margaret born 1847. I don't have info on the brother you listed. My grandfather was Hayward Johnson, son of Joseph Johnson and grandson of Andrew Johnson. My mother is in possession of a copy of the marriage certificate of Andrew Johnson and Maggie Sheckenbaugh if you are interested. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smoketownuniv Surnames: Moser Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/15239.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I appreciate you posting this "new" information. I am posting this reply on behalf of my cousin. We were unaware of this information about Valentine Marrying Julianna in York County. We were aware of him going to Frederick Co., MD for about 30 yrs or more before moving to Fayette. We descend from his son, John. Do you have sources for the Paradise Township marriage? We can confirm by administratiave accounty that John Moser left two minor sons in 1744/John Frankenburger/berry was the administrator, showing that he was an uncle to those minors. Thanks, Cindy Hoffman for Alvey Moser Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Listers, I have just purchased a copy of my 5x Great Grandmother's will from the York Archives. It is of course in the old script of 1798 and also partly in German. The surname KINDIG reads as RINTIG and I can cope with that - just about. Does anyone know of a researcher who might be able to assist me with transcribing the German paragraph and Ana's own words? Ana Kindig was the wife of Jacob Kindig (of Manor Twp, Lancaster and Manchester Twp, York County) who we believe descended from a brother of Martin Kindig, one of the original Palatinate pioneers to America in 1717. Any advice on this would be appreciated. Many thanks. Valerie Bowden

Ann C Sherwin ATA-Certified German-English Translator 1918 Medfield Rd Raleigh NC 27607 (919) 859-5846 http://www.asherwin.com [email protected] Kim > Any advice on this would be appreciated. Many thanks. > > Valerie Bowden

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: moses77 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.york/8359.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jon,Yes,it's the same George,our George is the son of Adam & Barbara (Lonit) Platz.Lori Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

One other item. Quakers will not be listed on ships coming into English ports prior to the Revolution War since they were British citizens. Only other European citizens including Mennonites will be on ship passenger lists. When searching for Anabaptists in Europe you may find the family traveled to different areas prior to crossing the Atlantic. They especially traveled from southern France to Switzerland then down the Rhine in Germany Prussia and France and to ports in lowlands many stopped in England prior to crossing the Atlantic. Ted von Mechow Praise God for everything he has done for us! 'IN GOD WE TRUST' -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis Rainwater Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAYork] Book on Mennonites elsewhere than in York Co; Hershey problem On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Karl or Pat Seitz <[email protected]>wrote: > Lou: > ----- But for most genealogical purposes, you can think of the Quakers as from the British Isles and the Mennonites as from Switzerland and Germany. If your immigrant ancestors were English, Welsh, etc in the right time period, look for Quaker records. If they were German or Swiss (or perhaps you've traced them to a Dutch port), Mennonite or another anabapism church is more likely. Another helpful explanation. Thanks for taking time to write, Karl. Lou > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Karl or Pat Seitz <[email protected]>wrote: > Lou: > ----- But for most genealogical purposes, you can think of the Quakers as from the British Isles and the Mennonites as from Switzerland and Germany. If your immigrant ancestors were English, Welsh, etc in the right time period, look for Quaker records. If they were German or Swiss (or perhaps you've traced them to a Dutch port), Mennonite or another anabapism church is more likely. Another helpful explanation. Thanks for taking time to write, Karl. Lou > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Ted von Mechow <[email protected]>wrote: > This is a very difficult question to answer. Because each organization can > have a different formats. To say one service is organized and the other > not > may offend one church or meeting house because they are free to express > themselves differently. However that said for the most part they are > different while one may see similar ceremony in say a UCC / Lutheran > service > with a Mennonite service. For the most part a service of Quaker/Friends > would be strange to a Traditional Christian Service. > Ted, I appreciate the time expended in answering my question. It is indeed a big help to me. Thanks. Lou Lou > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Ted, An excellent explanation of the differences. Thanks, Lloyd Shenberger -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ted von Mechow Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAYork] difference between Quaker and Mennonite and Genealogy This is a very difficult question to answer. Because each organization can have a different formats. To say one service is organized and the other not may offend one church or meeting house because they are free to express themselves differently. However that said for the most part they are different while one may see similar ceremony in say a UCC / Lutheran service with a Mennonite service. For the most part a service of Quaker/Friends would be strange to a Traditional Christian Service. I live in an area where there are many Quakers meeting houses and Mennonite Churches. Mennonite I have attend Mennonite services where they have a minister who conducts the service on Sunday they follow the Scripture, sing and have a teaching. Organization founded in Switzerland. There is a structure to the organization and services. Mennonites have adult baptism not infant baptism. They also have a form of Holy Communion. MENNONITE GENEALOGICAL RECORDS CAN BE FOUND IN MANY OF THE MENNONITE HISTORICAL SOCIETIES IN EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA LANCASTER HAS A LARGE ONE THERE IS ALSO ONE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY NEAR HARLEYSVILLE. Quaker A Quaker meeting does not have a minister, pastor, [in some case they have elders who keep order and direction]. There is a clerk who records what happens, who attends there is no ceremony per say. People enter sit in silence until some on is lead by the Spirit to say something [to uplift or admonish] for the assembly. The meeting ends when someone is led to shake hands with their neighbor and then all do. The structure of the meeting may vary from one meeting house to another. They do not have sacraments. One of the crucial testimonies of Friends is that the grace of God can be received directly by any person without the need for any human intermediary such as priest or pastor. Friends believe that Jesus Christ baptizes his followers directly with the Holy Spirit. Friends also believe that it is important to live in daily, inward, communion with God. No outward ceremonies can substitute for the inward reality of these experiences. The Religious Society of Friends is organized into Monthly, Quarterly and Yearly Meetings. The basic unit is the Monthly Meeting, the equivalent to the local congregation in most other churches. It is customary for Friends to worship every Sunday at a designated time. It is also the practice to hold business meetings once a month. Members of a Monthly Meeting are also members of the Quarterly meeting which meets for worship and business every three months, at the meetinghouse of one of the monthly meetings. Similarly, all members within a certain geographic region belong to a Yearly Meeting which meets for several days once a year QUAKER GENEALOGICAL RECORDS WOULD BE FOUND IN THE CLERK NOTES WHO WAS MARRIED, DIED OR ACCEPTED INTO THE MEETING DON'T LOOK FOR BAPTISM. SWARTHMORE COLLEGE HAS MANY OF THE OLD RECORDS FROM MEETING HOUSES IN EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA. Hope this is helpful and know that it. Ted von Mechow Praise God for everything he has done for us! 'IN GOD WE TRUST' ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a very difficult question to answer. Because each organization can have a different formats. To say one service is organized and the other not may offend one church or meeting house because they are free to express themselves differently. However that said for the most part they are different while one may see similar ceremony in say a UCC / Lutheran service with a Mennonite service. For the most part a service of Quaker/Friends would be strange to a Traditional Christian Service. I live in an area where there are many Quakers meeting houses and Mennonite Churches. Mennonite I have attend Mennonite services where they have a minister who conducts the service on Sunday they follow the Scripture, sing and have a teaching. Organization founded in Switzerland. There is a structure to the organization and services. Mennonites have adult baptism not infant baptism. They also have a form of Holy Communion. MENNONITE GENEALOGICAL RECORDS CAN BE FOUND IN MANY OF THE MENNONITE HISTORICAL SOCIETIES IN EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA LANCASTER HAS A LARGE ONE THERE IS ALSO ONE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY NEAR HARLEYSVILLE. Quaker A Quaker meeting does not have a minister, pastor, [in some case they have elders who keep order and direction]. There is a clerk who records what happens, who attends there is no ceremony per say. People enter sit in silence until some on is lead by the Spirit to say something [to uplift or admonish] for the assembly. The meeting ends when someone is led to shake hands with their neighbor and then all do. The structure of the meeting may vary from one meeting house to another. They do not have sacraments. One of the crucial testimonies of Friends is that the grace of God can be received directly by any person without the need for any human intermediary such as priest or pastor. Friends believe that Jesus Christ baptizes his followers directly with the Holy Spirit. Friends also believe that it is important to live in daily, inward, communion with God. No outward ceremonies can substitute for the inward reality of these experiences. The Religious Society of Friends is organized into Monthly, Quarterly and Yearly Meetings. The basic unit is the Monthly Meeting, the equivalent to the local congregation in most other churches. It is customary for Friends to worship every Sunday at a designated time. It is also the practice to hold business meetings once a month. Members of a Monthly Meeting are also members of the Quarterly meeting which meets for worship and business every three months, at the meetinghouse of one of the monthly meetings. Similarly, all members within a certain geographic region belong to a Yearly Meeting which meets for several days once a year QUAKER GENEALOGICAL RECORDS WOULD BE FOUND IN THE CLERK NOTES WHO WAS MARRIED, DIED OR ACCEPTED INTO THE MEETING DON'T LOOK FOR BAPTISM. SWARTHMORE COLLEGE HAS MANY OF THE OLD RECORDS FROM MEETING HOUSES IN EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA. Hope this is helpful and know that it. Ted von Mechow Praise God for everything he has done for us! 'IN GOD WE TRUST'

Very interesting to learn the basic difference between the Quakers and the Mennonites as far as where they came from. I didn't know that and found it interesting. I learn so much from this list, as I am sure others do also. Thanks to everyone for sharing what they know. It helps us all. Sue Lupinacci On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Karl or Pat Seitz <[email protected]>wrote: > Lou: > I'll leave it to somebody more learned in the subject to give you > the theological differences between Quakers and Mennonites. They are > both anabaptist (adult baptism) religions. > > But for most genealogical purposes, you can think of the Quakers > as from the British Isles and the Mennonites as from Switzerland and > Germany. If your immigrant ancestors were English, Welsh, etc in the > right time period, look for Quaker records. If they were German or > Swiss (or perhaps you've traced them to a Dutch port), Mennonite or > another anabapism church is more likely. > > You can find some examples of descendants of early immigrant > Mennonites becoming Quaker in Pennsylvania, And I would not be > completely surprised if the reverse also happened, although I don't > have any examples in my research. > -- > Karl Seitz > > > > > > >RB, I have a question and hope you, or other listmember, will answer: what > >is the difference between Mennonite and Quaker? > > > >Yes, I have done the google bit, but still don't understand. > > > >TIA > > > >Lou > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAYORK > > > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry PAYORK Message Board are gatewayed > to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may > not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking > on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > Visit the York County, Pennsylvania USGENWEB Project at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~payork/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Richard Allen <[email protected]>wrote: If you are interested in Mennonite genealogy you could check out a book published in 2004 on the Mennonites in Franklin Co. PA and Washington Co. MD. It is some 900 pages long. You can buy it from the LCMHS: RB, I have a question and hope you, or other listmember, will answer: what is the difference between Mennonite and Quaker? Yes, I have done the google bit, but still don't understand. TIA Lou > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >