Hi List,, I have a moment to post something (I am home with my 5-week-old grandson while his parents have a much-deserved night out. He is sleeping through all the New Year hoopla, imagine that (no Y2K glitches with bottles and diapers...) One of my 2g-grandfathers is Robert Gordon Payne, b. abt. 1849 in Fauquier Co, Va. He married Mary Lewis Holtzclaw 23 Dec. 1874 in Culpeper Co., Va. They had a daughter named Susan Anna Payne. I don't have any information on any siblings, if any, for her! I know Mary Lewis Holtzclaw must be a Germanna descendant, although I don't have the connection on her yet, either. Susan's daughter franklin ("Frankie") is still living and I spoke with her by telephone a few months back, but she just isn't too interested in gen research and wasn't too helpful - there was a lot she simply couldn't recall. She did remember that her grandfather went by Gordon. If anyone has additional info or knows of other children for Robert and Mary, I would love to hear from you. I did find Robert Gordon Payne listed on the "Paynes of Virginia" website and have a lineage for him, but I need filler and confirmations and I would like to meet some cousins! Happy New Year all and many Blessings to everyone! Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida Genealogy: It's Relative!! katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen