Ruth, This is the family of Asa Paine/Payne from the 1850 Cherokee, NC census as given. I believe the birthplaces of some of the children to be in error and to actually be SC, NC and GA. Our Paynes seem to spend time in the relative proximity of the MD and VA Paynes so it's quite confusing and documentation beyond this generation I have yet to find. Asa was a blacksmith. Nancy's maiden name is Hollinshead/Hollingshead--a rare name in the South. Benjamin and Thomas Hollingshead came to NC from Maryland just prior to the Rev War, served from there, then sometime after the war to SC and then @ 1830's to AL. Years of searching and I have not been able to find a connection for Nancy. Regards, Karen Shelton 1850 Cherokee NC census information: Household #432 @Murphy, Cherokee Co, NC age yr birth place Asa Payne 40 1810 Carolina Nancy 36 1814 Carolina Children: (1) Green 16 1834 Carolina (2) Harriet 14 1836 Carolina (3) Joel 12 1838 Carolina (4) Lensky (sey) 10 1840 Carolina (5) Rachael 7 1843 Carolina (6) Lucretia 5 1845 Carolina (7) Martha M 3 1847 Carolina