Sandra Brandt wrote: << I only know that our Wayne Co. IL. Payne ancestor, Thomas, was b. in 1808 in N.C. >> Hi Sandra, Just grasping at straws here... My earliest known PAYNE relative is Joseph PAYNE, born about 1803 in (perhaps Mecklenburg Co.) North Carolina. I have no early info about him other than 1850 Census data and the fact that his two sons said they were born in Mecklenburg Co., NC. Wonder if your Thomas may have had a brother Joseph? Thanks for any help you may be able to give. Sally TWEED BAUGHN cbaughn@aol.com