I just recently joined the list and didn't even know who Patrick was, that he HAD done so much research, had a website, discussion group, etc. I know that Patrick's core driver is to research for himself and his family. But one of the by-products of his research is the information and guidance it provides to other researchers. And this is a special gift for new researchers such as myself. It sounds like his focus is way back before my trace. I've been stuck with in one spot, my ggrandfather John Thomas Payne who died around 1918 in Savannah, Ga. I've been stuck there for over 20 years, when I first began searching. I keep praying for a miracle, and most likely it will be someone like Patrick who will someday assist me in getting past John Thomas. Can you imagine what that will mean to me and my family? But apparently my chances will be reduced because Patrick has had a few insignificant dweebs, whom would be dangerous if they HAD brains, criticize his research? That makes me pretty angry, folx. Einstien could not have made the awesome advances he is credited with, without the lifetimes of research already performed by his predecessors. And please note, Einstien had his critics; those that would belittle and heckle his theorems in order to appease their own egos. Patrick's research is vital, perfect or not - have any of us even gotten close to the vicinity of perfection? Again, I've not seem your work yet. For all I know, it might just be perfect, but that's NOT the point. Patrick, quitting is your choice. And you might have good reason for it; burnout, less time, loss of interest, - this happens and is understandable. Just please don't quit for the wrong reasons. The delete button is sooo very easy to click. Best regards, Frank L. Healy ggrandson of my bottleneck -John Thomas Payne (d. 1918) PS> Would someone let me know if Patrick's site is still up and how to access it? I'm praying it's not too late. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com