Hi PAYNE researchers! I'm investigating the PAYNE surname in connection with my SHIVER research. I am descended from John & Hannah SHIVER of Kershaw Co., SC. They had 6 sons and 2 daughters. One daughter married George PAYNE of the same area. I have almost no information on their children other than knowing numbers, as they lived during the pre-1850 census time. George and Sarah were born abt. 1770, both in South Carolina. From the 1800 Kershaw Co., SC census it appears that they have 1 boy age 10-16, 3 boys under 10, 1 girl 10-16, and 3 girls under 10 (WOW! 6 children under 10!) By 1810 they have 1 boy under 10, 3 girls under 10, and 1 girl 10-16. In 1820 they were in Laurens Co., GA they have 1 boy 10-16, 1 under 10, and 2 girls under 10. Sarah dies sometime around 1830. The interesting thing about this particular family is that they tended to intermarry VERY heavily, particularly first cousins (I know, I know...). It has been an occasion of note when I've been able to find someone who married someone with a different surname whose mother didn't end up being a SHIVER! (This was most common in the early days of the family, post-Rev. War and up until around the Civil War. It still happened until more recently, but not as often.) There are other PAYNE names that pop up whose children married into the family. Absalom PAYNE of SC, b. 1771/1775 had two children who married SHIVERs, and that's only the ones I know about! :-) I have other records of PAYNE-SHIVER marriages, but can't fit the PAYNEs into any kind of family group. I have recently found 3 researchers working on these lines or ones closely related to them, but I was hoping some others on this list might be as well. Please contact me if you wish to exchange information! Thanks! Mary Kathryn SHIVER-L mailing list owner -- Mary Kathryn Kozy mkozy@attglobal.net My Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~marykozy/ South King Co. Gene. Soc. page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/ Dougherty Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gadoughe/ Monroe Co., GA USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gamonroe/ Lawrence Co., IL USGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illawren/