It has been a while since I last posted. I thought I would try again with some new information I've received from a SS-5 application I received. I am looking for more information on my paternal grandfather and his ancestors. His name was Russell Bernard Payne, b. 03/01/1911, Loudoun Co., VA, d. 09/17/1963, Centreville, VA. His father's name was Bernard Forrest Payne, b. 12/28/1889, Fauquier Co., VA. His mother's name was either Bertie or Beatrice and I don't know her maiden name. His siblings were: William, Susie Payne Shutts, Pauline Payne Shutts, Mabel Payne Tapp-Beach, Ada Payne Carbaugh, Helen Payne Buttery, Hazel Payne Cole, Irene Payne Bridge, and Ettie "Ducky" Payne Owens-Fox. I know all of his sisters' married names because I have a copy of his obituary which lists them. The SS-5 application I received is for Bernard Forrest Payne. The date for the application was 2/10/1939. His address at that time was Purcellville, VA and he worked at Gill Brothers in Leesville (?Leesburg?), VA. He lists his parents as Bernard Payne and Sarah Catherine Payne. Up the side of the application it is written "mother was a Miss Payne before marriage". And that's as far as I've been able to get. If anyone has any information on this line of Payne's I would greatly appreciate it if you would contact me either through this list or at my email uni62corn@hotmail.com. Thank you, Lori Craiger _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp