In a message dated 4/3/00 3:18:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnthepayne@yahoo.com writes: << IV. ROBERT PAINE, B. ca 1745 in Spotsylvania Co., VA., D. 1805 in Burke Co., NC. Md. Rachel Lord, B. ca 1750 in VA, D. ca 1809 in Burke Co. Sold his interest in his father's estate in Spotsylvania Co. on 16 April 1783. >> I've been told (with no documentation given) that this Robert PAINE may be related to my Joseph PAYNE (b. 1803, NC) who was found on the 1850 Buncombe Co, NC Census. Have you any information about such a connection? If you know of the connection, do you have any sources for the information? Joseph is a massive brick wall for me, so any help will be greatly appreciated. Sally TWEED BAUGHN cbaughn@aol.com