I thought the same thing about Moses earlier marriage but wasn't sure if Ann was a Payne, I had her listed that way though. I wander who Ann's Husband was if she was married to a Payne????? Descendants of Moses Ayers, Sr. 1 Moses AYERS, Sr. b 1: Sep 11, 1747 in MD b 2: Sep 11, 1747 in Snowden, Wales (Some say he was born in Pittysylvania Co. VA) d: Aug 25, 1833 in Franklin Co Georgia Fact 1: Buried in Old Reed Creek Ch. Cemetery Fact 2: Rev. War Vet. Kinship 1: Robert Edward Ayers <rayers@webtv.net> Kinship 2: Jim Skelton <Skeltonje@aol.com> .. +Dorcus COX . 2 Mary Polly AYERS b: 1773 in VA ..... +Richard GOBER m: Apr 28, 1816 in Franklin Co. GA . 2 Moses AYERS,Jr. b: 1775 in VA d: 1856 in Bedford Co. TN ..... +Mary AYERS b: Abt. 1785 in VA d: 1856 in Bedford Co. TN Father: Daniel B AYERS Mother: BETSY *2nd Wife of Moses AYERS, Sr.: .. +Ann PAYNE m: Abt. 1777 Kinship: Jim Skelton <Skeltonje@aol.com> . 2 Obediah O. AYERS b: Dec 25, 1779 in Pittsburg, Co. Va d: 1857 in Franklin/Hart Co. Georgia Kinship: Jim Skelton <Skeltonje@aol.com> ..... +[1] Emilia/Milly (Dicy) PAYNE b: Abt. 1780 m: Abt. 1808 in Franklin Co. GA d: 1821 in Franklin Co GA Father: William PAYNE, * Mother: Catherine (Katy) MIDDLETON?, * *3rd Wife of Moses AYERS, Sr.: .. +Abigail PAYNE b: 1756 in VA m: Sep 18, 1782 in Pittsylvania Co. VA d: Jul 02, 1836 in Franklin Co Georgia Father: Thomas (Trader*) PAYNE, Sr., * Mother: Unknown (INDIAN?), * Fact 1: Buried in Old Reed Creek Ch. Cemetary Kinship: Robert Edward Ayers <rayers@webtv.net> . 2 David AYERS b: 1784 in VA d: Nov 06, 1820 in Franklin/ Hart Co. Georgia ..... +[1] Emilia/Milly (Dicy) PAYNE b: Abt. 1780 d: 1821 in Franklin Co GA Father: William PAYNE, * Mother: Catherine (Katy) MIDDLETON?, * . 2 Nathaniel AYERS b: Sep 17, 1788 in Surry Co. NC d: May 10, 1841 in Habersham Co. GA Ayersville Fact 1: Buried in Dicks Hill, Ayersville, GA Kinship: Robert Edward Ayers <rayers@webtv.net> ..... +Milcah Elizabeth WALTERS b: Sep 23, 1795 in Franklin Co. GA, Wilkes Section m: Jan 12, 1813 in Habersham Co. GA d: Jun 26, 1854 in Habersham Co. GA Ayersville Fact 1: Buried Dicks Hill, Ayersville, Habersham Co. GA Kinship: Robert Edward Ayers <rayers@webtv.net> . 2 William M. AYERS b: Aug 10, 1794 in Surry C0. NC . 2 Daniel AYERS b: Mar 01, 1795 in NC d: Mar 03, 1878 in Franklin Co Georgia ..... +Leah ADERHOLD b: Dec 24, 1794 in Pendleton Dist. SC m: Oct 23, 1814 in Franklin Co Georgia d: Jul 03, 1871 in Franklin Co Georgia . 2 Jedediah AYERS b: 1797 in NC d: Jan 13, 1885 in Hart Co. GA Fact 1: Estes Cemetery ..... +Rhoda Hubbard BURTON b: Abt. 1800 in Franklin Co. GA d: Abt. 1844 in Hart Co. GA Fact 1: Estes Cemetery ----Original Message Follows---- From: John Wilmot <john.wilmot@mindspring.com> To: rayers@webtv.net CC: stnpride@linkline.com, ThatBeBob@aol.com, otime@hotmail.com, shpxlcp@home.com Subject: Moses Payne/ Moses Ayers Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:41:55 -0500 Hello all, Even though I'm not an Ayers descendant, I have a comment on the Moses Ayers/Moses Payne situation. I noticed that there was no mention of Moses Payne (b. 28 Nov 1777), the step-son of Moses Ayers, possibly being a *left-over* from a previous marriage of Moses himself, rather than Abigail. It is believed (I think) that Moses had at least one, and possibly two wives prior to Abigail. For the possible second wife (Ann?), I have that she married Moses between 1775-1779, then died not long after the birth of their probable child Obadiah c1779. If that were all accepted as accurate, then it is easy to see that Ann may have been the widow of a Mr. Payne with an infant son. She married Moses Ayers soon after the death of her other husband and had a child (or children) with him. About 1782, she died herself, leaving Moses with the whole set of children, possibly including a 5-ish year old boy whom Moses had raised since infancy, but who was actually his step-son. (It all works out just as well, too, if Ann had Moses Payne out of wedlock.) I have seen this Ann refered to as Ann Payne, though I have no idea why, or if that should be believed. If it were true though, she would be as good a candidate for the mother of Moses Payne as Abigail. Also, we know that Moses Ayers was associated closely with the Paynes well before he married Abigail; this theory would at least partially explain why. As to why the child would not have been given to a member of the "real" father's family to raise, I can easily see the possibility that Abigail Payne was the actual aunt of little Moses Payne by blood, in which case her raising him would not have been an odd thing. Anyway, like I said, I am not an Ayers researcher, and I am not that familiar with the family details. This realy was just to point out that there are other perfectly plausible theories for the Moses Payne/Moses Ayers situation which don't involve Abigail. John ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com