When George Payne and Rachel Cowgill's certificate of removal was received at Hopewell on 3rd of 11th mo. 1777, it listed children Rachel, Martha, Sarah, Alice and George. They had come from Deer Creek Monthly Meeting in Harford Co., Md. I have not checked the Deer Creek meeting records. The first five children of George and Rachel had their births recorded at Nottingham MM in Cecil Co., Md.: i Hannah b. 14th of 12th mo 1753; married Robert Heslett ii Jesse b. 6th of 7th mo 1755; married Mary Sarah Tucker, according to the Ancestral File (AFN: 11V3-3GL) iii Henry b. 5th of 3rd mo 1756; married Mary Elizabeth Kurtz, according to Ancestral File submission of Bob L. Anderson, who gives birthplace of these children as Fawn Twp., York, Pa. (AFN: 17L9-5ZG) iv Joseph b. 11th of 1st mo 1758, v Mary, b. 6th of 11th mo 1758; married Benjamin Manifold; d. 1826. Of the other children, we know that vi Rachel married Abraham McCleary contrary to discipline in Frederick Co., Va., 6th of 5th mo 1782; vii Martha married Abraham Smith at Hopewell 16th of 7th mo 1783; she died after her husband. viii Sarah married John Squibb or Squibbs contrary to discipline 7th of 5th mo 1787 in Frederick Co., Va. ix Alice married Levi Smith, son of Joseph Smith and Rachel Beals, and hence Abraham Smith's brother, 4th of 6th mo 1789 at Hopewell; she died at Hopewell before 1812; x George Payne, Jr. was a witness to his sister Alice's marriage, and he was disowned by Hopewell MM 1st of 3rd mo 1802, no reason given. He married Elizabeth Dillon of North Carolina. George Payne and Rachel Cowgill were married at Nottingham MM in Cecil Co., Md. on the 26th of 3rd mo. 1752 (New Style), at "a public mtg of sd people at James King's." Both were listed as being of West Nottingham Preparatory Meeting. My source is a typescript of Nottingham MM records: "Maryland Quaker Records: Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County" that I found at the Salt Lake library. George was the son of Josiah, deceased, and Martha; Rachel was the daughter of Henry of Drumsmore [sic; should be Drumore] Twp., Lancaster Co., Pa. The name is written Payne in George Payne's marriage certificate; in the Nottingham Men's Minutes (where his father and brothers are concerned) it is written Paine, and in the Women's Minutes it is written Pain. Comments William Wade Hinshaw: "the correct name is doubtless Payne" (initials WWH follow the discussion of these variations). George's will, dated 23 January 1799, was filed in Berkeley County, Va. I do not have a copy, only an abstract; I need more information about George while he was living there in the 1780s-1790s. George's parents were Josiah Payne or Paine, and Martha Shepard. The birth and death records of New Garden MM (Chester Co., Pa.) list their children as follows: i Josiah (Jos. ) b. 3rd day 8th mo 1716; he was disowned 1758 by West Nottingham. ii Mary, b. 7th day 2nd mo 1718; iii Matthew b. 20th day 3rd mo 1719, married out of union, as reported in West Nottingham PM: he "hath let out his affections to a woman not of our Society & is m to her by a Priest;" he at first told the committee to "do as they please" about disowning him; the matter rested until 16th of 6th mo 1753, when he made acknowledgement, which was accepted as satisfaction. iv Alice b. 22nd of 10th mo 1720 married 1741/2 Henry Cowgill at Nottingham MM; she was his second wife (Mary Boulton was his first). Rachel Cowgill, wife of George Payne, was a daughter of Henry Cowgill by his first marriage; v Martha b 10th of 10th mo 1722 married Eleazer Cowgill 1739 at Nottingham MM; Eleazer was a son of John Cowgill and his second wife Rachel Baker (John and Rachel were Rachel Cowgill Payne's grandparents); vi Elizabeth b. 5th of 12th mo 1724; she was reported 18th of 7th mo 1752 by West Nottingham PM as having married out of union to Isaac Coulson, "and it is supposed they are guilty of fornication;" both were disowned the 21st of 10th mo 1752; vii Hannah (also called Ruth?) b. 27th 2nd mo 1726; married out of union to a Savage; at this time she lived in York Co., Pa., as is stated by the West Nottingham PM minutes 21st 8th mo 1756, regarding the appointment of William Cox to visit and counsel her; viii George, b 4th of 10th mo 1728, married Rachel Cowgill, daughter of Henry of Drumore Twp. ix Joseph b. after 1730? was disowned for joining the Army to fight Indians 15th of 5th mo 1756. Josiah Payne was a taxable at West Nottingham in 1718, having property valued at 16 pounds, on which he paid 4 shillings and threepence per pound. When Josiah bought land in 1726, Joseph Kirkbride, a prominent Friend from New Jersey, was referred to as his "kinsman" (email 4-20-99 from Thomas Hamm tomh@earlham.edu). Meldrum's early New Jersey church records refer to a Joseph Kirkbride, but indicate he was a resident of Bucks Co., Pa., and a "sometime" resident of New Jersey. So far no connection between Josiah Payne and Joseph Kirkbride is known. Josiah was appointed overseer for West Nottingham Preparatory Meeting, 19th of 4th mo 1731; he served in this capacity until his death, which was before 1752. On 19th of 6th mo 1738 West Nottingham PM reported that Josiah had a lapse in conduct: he had been "overtaken with strong drink, and did both sing and dance." He acknowledged his misconduct and it was accepted 21st of 8th mo 1738. The History of York County, Pennsylvania, in mentioning Josiah Payne and Martha Shepard, reports that both were "natives of England," and that Martha was a Quaker minister. William Sheppard, William Sheppard, Jr., and Henry Cowgill were witnesses to George Payne's 1799 will; these Sheppards are the only potential Shepard relatives of Martha's I have found. According to Ancestral File submitter Bob L. Anderson (618 East 10th, Sedalia, MO 65301) Martha was born in Holland ca. 1690-1692. Martha's Ancestral File no. is 11V3-BRN. Yours faithfully, Margaret Robe Summitt Everett, WA