Elaine, Thanks for the offer of help. I'm usually looking for all I can get! It seems that most people believe the Moses Payne who shows up in the early censuses of Pendleton District, SC, is the one who submitted a pension application in the 1830s while living in AL. If so, he was born "on the coast" between MD and NC as his family moved to NC. I haven't seen that application yet, so I can't say more than what I've been told. If the NC/SC/AL Moses of the application is the one in Pendleton District, SC, he wasn't apparently Moses, the brother of Thomas Payne, Jr., whose 1786 will named Moses, Nathaniel, Zebediah, Shrewsbury, Cleveland, Champness, Poindexter, and Ruth as his siblings. It then follows that the NC/SC/AL Moses is probably not the Moses who shows up in Bedford Co., TN, deed books. (See the USGenWeb archives for Bedford Co., TN, for several of the relevant deeds--I'm slowly posting the ones I know of.) It is probably just one of life's coincidences that a neighbor of Moses Payne in Bedford Co., TN, was named Willis Green--a name that shows up in the Pendleton District, SC, census; but not near the page on which Moses Payne is listed. Some day I hope to read the deed books from GA, so I can see what they say about the Paynes who were related to Thomas Payne, Jr. I still have not heard of a single piece of evidence supporting the conclusion that the parents of Thomas, Moses, Nathaniel, Zebediah, Cleveland, Poindexter, Champness, Shrewsbury, and Ruth Payne died about 1811-1812 in Pendleton District, SC. (If they weren't in any of the censuses, is there any evidence they ever set foot in that place, much less died there?) I keep asking about evidence for the date of death of the parents, because I have found that a Shrewsbury Payne and a Zebediah Payne bought land in Bedford Co., TN, on 10 April 1812. (See the deeds in USGenWeb archives.) Since they bought adjacent parcels on the same day and spent identical amounts of money for them, I presume they were the brothers of Thomas Payne, Jr. Knowing when their father and mother died would possibly support the presumption that they pulled up stakes in GA and came to TN. Do you know of any document? If so, can you please tell me what it is and where I may find a copy of it? Thanks, Bob