As a result of the first round of DNA testing/analysis and a suggested strong link somehow to the John Payne (1615-1690) of Col. Payne's 1937 book, I've started reviewing his second to fourth-generation descendants. Some of these family branches seem fairly well documented and perhaps complete, while others, according to Col. Payne, have very limited or no evidence concerning possible descendants. My earliest known ancestor, Phillip or John Phillip Payne, and probably three or four Payne brothers/cousins started settling in the Craven/ Kershaw/Camden area of South Carolina in the 1750s and 1760s. A generation or two later, many of these Paynes were in parts of Georgia (Washington, Wilkes, Hancock, Wilkinson & Laurens Cos.) and in Alabama as Creek lands were opened to settlers Some of you have been researching the Paynes of Virginia and are much more familiar than I am with Col. Payne's book and the descendants of his immigrant John Payne. However, it would seem to me that a linkage to the Craven/Kershaw/Camden Paynes would more likely occur in some of the less-documented branches of that John Payne family tree. Do any of you have inputs, beyond what Col. Payne covered, concerning these particular descendants? 1) knowledge of additional sons of Richard Payne (son of John Payne) other than the William and John described in Col. Payne's book and 2) information about possible sons of George and Thomas (grandchildren of John Payne through his son George) [This George apparently lived to be about 50 and had an unnamed infant son, according to Col. Payne, and Thomas disappeared completely in terms of evidence after 1722.] Has anyone tried to do much of a review/rehash of Col. Payne's work, particularly in examining those branches for which Col. Payne confessed a lack of much or any information? Thanks for any advice or opinions. --- Steve Payne