----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Payne" <don.payne@accessone.com> To: "Payne Rootsweb" <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:21 PM Subject: Fw: Payne Collection (#920) > Hi everyone: > > Some time ago, one of our cousins Susan (Payne) Smith visited the Special > Collections Section of the Alderman Library at the University of Virginia. > While there, she noted 22 virtually untapped boxes of Payne genealogical > materials acquired by Col. Brooke Payne that were not applicable to his line > and thus, were not generally featured in his book, "The Payne's of > Virginia". According to Susan, the boxes contained family trees, notes, and > other information useful to Payne family researchers. > > Believing that many of us would like to get our hands on the contents of > those boxes, I contacted the Alderman Library via e-mail and my dialogue > with them follows. Basically, they indicate they can microfilm the contents > of the 22 boxes for an estimated sum of approx. $2750, plus $450 for each > positive copy of the microfilm which could be equivalent to fifteen rolls of > 100 feet of microfilm (plus $25. shipping and handling). Even if we had 30 > Payne researchers willing to pay about $100 ($3000) for the initial > Microfilm negative, the added $475 to purchase a personal set of fifteen > microfilm rolls could be prohibitively expensive for most of us. > > Another alternative might be to pay 25 cents per page based on what > information the "sketchy guide", referred to by Mr. Gaynor, might reveal. > I've not seen it yet so I cannot speak for it's comprehensiveness. > > Anyway, I wanted to share this information with all of you and get a > reaction. Does anyone have any good ideas how we might proceed to access > Col. Payne's materials without breaking our collective piggy banks? > > Advise, > > Don Payne > Federal Way, WA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Payne" <don.payne@accessone.com> > To: "Gregory A. Johnson" <gaj4a@cms.mail.virginia.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:48 AM > Subject: Re: Payne Collection (#920) > > > > Dear Mr. Johnson: > > > > Thank you for your prompt replies. I will make this information available > > to the members of the Payne Rootsweb to see if it is within our means to > > proceed. I will advise the outcome as soon as possible. > > > > Don Payne > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory A. Johnson" <gaj4a@cms.mail.virginia.edu> > > To: "Don Payne" <don.payne@accessone.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:59 AM > > Subject: Re: Payne Collection (#920) > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > To make the master negative + one positive copy will cost > > > about $3250, but EACH additional postive copy will cost > > > $450.00 per set, plus > > > > > approximately $25.00 for the reels / boxes / s&h. > > > > > > which totals $475.00 PER SET (15 reels, positive copy). > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:30:46 -0700 Don Payne > > > <don.payne@accessone.com> wrote: > > > > Do I understand it correctly that, in addition to the estimate of > > $3250.00, > > > > each additional copy of the master negative would cost $25? If 19 > > people > > > > wanted a set, it would cost > > > > 19x $25=$475? > > > > > > > > Don Payne > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Gregory A. Johnson" <gaj4a@cms.mail.virginia.edu> > > > > To: "Don Payne" <don.payne@accessone.com> > > > > Cc: "Gregory A. Johnson" <gaj4a@cms.mail.virginia.edu> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:19 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Payne Collection (#920) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, once the collection has been microfilmed, > > > > > additional (positive) copies can be produced from the > > > > > master negative film at will. If my fifteen-roll estimate > > > > > is correct, the cost would be $450.00 per set, plus > > > > > approximately $25.00 for the reels / boxes / s&h. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:32:26 -0700 Don Payne > > > > > <don.payne@accessone.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Johnson: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the reply. Assuming I could get 20 Payne > researchers > > to > > > > > > contribute in this project, how much more would it cost to produce > > 19 > > > > extra > > > > > > sets (fifteen 100' rolls), so each person could have a copy of > their > > > > own? > > > > > > > > > > > > Don Payne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Gregory A. Johnson" <gaj4a@cms.mail.virginia.edu> > > > > > > To: <don.payne@accessone.com> > > > > > > Cc: "Greg Johnson" <gaj4a@virginia.edu> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:30 PM > > > > > > Subject: Payne Collection (#920) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don.payne@accessone.com > > > > > > > Don Payne > > > > > > > 32237 3rd Avenue SW > > > > > > > Federal Way, WA 98023 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 31, 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Payne: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Payne Collection (#920) is so large that counting the > > > > > > > actual number of pages to estimate the cost to microfilm is > > > > > > > impractical. I can only give a rough estimate, based on > > > > > > > the premise that there are 400-500 pages per box. > > > > > > > Preparation of the master negative (which we will retain) > > > > > > > would likely fall in the range of $2200.00 to $2750.00; the > > > > > > > positive copy would likely require fifteen 100-foot rolls > > > > > > > and cost an additional $450.00; reels and boxes, plus s&h, > > > > > > > would be about $50.00, for a total of (perhaps) $2700.00 to > > > > > > > $3250.00. The time need to ready the collection for filming > > > > > > > and then to perform the filming would be three to six > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you wish to proceed, please let me know (eMail is > > > > > > > preferred) but do not send payment until advised to do so. > > > > > > > An order of this magnitude will require a substantial down > > > > > > > payment before the work is begun. Upon the completion of > > > > > > > filming, you will be billed the balance of the actual cost > > > > > > > incurred, and upon receipt of the (required) payment, the > > > > > > > positive copy (35mm film) will be mailed to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, once the collection has been microfilmed, > > > > > > > additional (positive) copies can be produced from the > > > > > > > master negative film at will. If my fifteen-roll estimate > > > > > > > is correct, the cost would be $450.00 per set, plus > > > > > > > approximately $25.00 for the reels / boxes / s&h. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Gregory A. Johnson > > > > > > > Special Collections Department > > > > > > > University of Virginia Library > > > > > > > P.O. Box 400110 > > > > > > > Charlottesville VA 22904-4110 > > > > > > > eMail: gaj4a@virginia.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Don Payne <don.payne@accessone.com> > > > > > > > To: Edward Gaynor <gaynor@virginia.edu> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Payne Family Genealogy <fwd> > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:11:02 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Gaynor: > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. I would indeed like to see the > > > > > > > "sketchy guide" and get an estimate on the cost of > > > > > > > microfilming the collection plus handling charges. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don Payne > > > > > > > 32237 3rd Avenue SW > > > > > > > Federal Way, WA 98023 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Edward Gaynor" <gaynor@virginia.edu > > > > > > > To: <Don.Payne@accessone.com > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:52 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Payne Family Genealogy <fwd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Payne: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We do, in fact, have a collection of 22 boxes of Brooke > > > > > > > Payne's research materials. There is a sketchy guide to the > > > > > > > collection, which I'll be glad to send you if you'll send > > > > > > > me your US mailing address. The collection is open to all > > > > > > > researchers during our normal business hours. For more > > > > > > > information, please see > > > > > > > http://www.lib.virginia.edu/speccol/about/operations.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is possible to have photocopies of selected materials > > > > > > > made for $.25 per page. If you wish to have the entire > > > > > > > collection copied, we will have to microfilm it. I can get > > > > > > > a more accurate estimate for you if you're interested. > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > Edward Gaynor > > > > > > > Associate Director, Special Collections > > > > > > > Alderman Memorial Library > > > > > > > P.O. Box 400110 > > > > > > > University of Virginia > > > > > > > Charlottesville, VA 22904-4110 > > > > > > > (804) 924-3138 > > > > > > > (804) 924-4968 fax > > > > > > > gaynor@virginia.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks: I am doing genealogical research on the Payne > > > > > > > family of Virginia. Another researcher reported that when > > > > > > > she was at the library two years ago, she discovered there > > > > > > > were 22 boxes of materials acquired by Col. Brooke Payne > > > > > > > that were not utilized in his book, The Payne's of > > > > > > > Virginia, published 1937. Those of us doing research on the > > > > > > > Payne's in Virginia would very much like to review the > > > > > > > contents of those boxes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, for most of us, it is not possible to get to > > > > > > > Charlottesville for any lengthy period of time. Given the > > > > > > > fact that Col. Payne was skilled in obtaining detailed > > > > > > > information, it's a bit frustrating that potentially > > > > > > > valuable Payne family history reposes in those boxes. Do > > > > > > > you have any ideas how the contents of the boxes could be > > > > > > > made available to us? I am on a Payne Family network (Payne > > > > > > > Rootsweb) with other researchers. If you have any ideas, I > > > > > > > can bring them to the attention of everyone. Perhaps we can > > > > > > > make an arrangement that addresses your interest in > > > > > > > preserving the documents yet, makes their contents > > > > > > > available to the rest of us. Can you help? > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > Don Payne > > > > > > > Federal Way, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >