Jim, I am wandering about your query on Rachael as Daughter of Thomas and Cathrine Lydford Payne. I have info on his family and I don't have a Rachael listed as a daughter. In his will he mentions four daughters-- Lettice, Frances, Catherine and Mary _____. I understand that he had another daughter that was born after he died named Sarah. I have lots of info on this family on my website below and wander if I am missing something or one of these daughters was the Rachael you mentioned? Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:53:54 -0400 From: Jim Smith To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: ANY RELATIONSHIP ? Keturah Payne, daughter of Robert Payne and Ann Burton, was born 02 Feb1765 in Goochland Co., VA. She married Wynne Dixon of Caswell Co., NC, 08 Jan 1786 in Pittsylvania Co., VA. Rachel Paine, daughter of Thomas Paine and Catherine Lydford was born in Middlesex Co., VA. She married Samuel Smith of Essex Co., VA, before 20 Nov 1749 in Essex Co., VA. Can anyone tell me if these families are related? David S. Payne, 1614 Chapman Rd., Anderson, SC, 29621, 864-225-3253 otime1@yahoo.com My line: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON,ARENDALL, CANADY, CORBIN, COX, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, HENSON, JAMES, McMILLIAN, McPHERSON, MOODY, PARKER, PAYNE, POINDEXTER, REDWINE, REID, SWANN, WEST, TODD, WHITMIRE --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness