I received this and someone might connect to this family. If you see any of these, contact Patrick Payne at <papayne@atl.mediaone.net> PAYNE-PRE1700-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: #1 Fwd: Lost Payne Cemetary [Patrick Payne <papayne@atl.mediaon] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from PAYNE-PRE1700-D, send a message to PAYNE-PRE1700-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ From: Patrick Payne <papayne@atl.mediaone.net> To: PAYNE-PRE1700-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fwd: Lost Payne Cemetary Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:17:39 -0400 Dear List, I am forwarding this e-mail hoping that someone out there will recognize this Texas PAYNE family. A kind resident of the area has discovered several graves and we need to see if we can locate ancestors if we can. Please help me to distribute this information or let me know if any of the names ring bells. I have requested additional details on dates and names which would be a big help. If I receive more information I will be passing that along as well. Thank you! Patrick http://papayne.rootsweb.com >Dear Sir, > I am not a member of the Payne family. I am writting in reguards to a >possibly lost cemetary. I live in Ellis County, Texas, and while looking at >some property in the city of Palmer last weekend, we came across an >abandon, >unkept family cemetary. The main person in the cemetary was William P >Payne, >his wife Adraih and some others that could possibly have been children of >these two. The reason I am trying to locate a family line is because of the >condition of this cemetary, it is very neglected, the headstones are all >damaged and jumbled together. Although I am sure that the owner of the >property is aware of the graves, it needs to be reconditioned and these >people need to be remembered in a more proper manner. I noticed that all if >the graves have dates in the 1800's. If you can possibly provide me with >anyone in this area, I would be more than happy to show them where it is. >It >is back in some woods and not visible from the street. It is possible that >someone may be looking for these graves. Thank you for your time....Margie >Boone > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Sandra Brandt wrote: << I only know that our Wayne Co. IL. Payne ancestor, Thomas, was b. in 1808 in N.C. >> Hi Sandra, Just grasping at straws here... My earliest known PAYNE relative is Joseph PAYNE, born about 1803 in (perhaps Mecklenburg Co.) North Carolina. I have no early info about him other than 1850 Census data and the fact that his two sons said they were born in Mecklenburg Co., NC. Wonder if your Thomas may have had a brother Joseph? Thanks for any help you may be able to give. Sally TWEED BAUGHN cbaughn@aol.com

Hugh de PAYEN...founder of the Knights Templar in Clermont, France seems to as far back as anything I have read... My wife, Tonia Edwards, has Payne lineage and we are both members of the Templars in the U.S. Chev. Edward Rach KTJ, CSSt.S, FRC, PNAF >Have you looked at www.paine.org ? >There is a page there with some suggestions about the origin of the name. >John Paine > >-----Original Message----- >From: John & Sandy Brandt <brandt@comwares.net> >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: 11 September 1999 19:13 >Subject: Origin of the name Payne > > >>I am putting together a small booklet for our family; historic info, family >>sheets and a short history on the origin and possible "meaning" of each of >>our family lines. This is NOT going to be published, but a computer copy, >>meant for our family only. I am asking for some assistance on the name, >>Payne. This is meant to be rather generic, but I hesitate to use the stuff >>received in the mail from Bath, Ohio. I only know that our Wayne Co. IL. >>Payne ancestor, Thomas, was b. in 1808 in N.C., so I have a lot of future >>research ahead of me! Thanks for whatever help you might offer! >>Sandra Brandt >>brandt@comwares.net

Thanks. May I add that to the page at www.paine.org ? John -----Original Message----- From: erach <erach@bright.net> To: John R. Paine <john.paine@paine.org>; PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 20 September 1999 14:59 Subject: Re: Origin of the name Payne >Hugh de PAYEN...founder of the Knights Templar in Clermont, France seems >to as far back as anything I have read... > >My wife, Tonia Edwards, has Payne lineage and we are both members of the >Templars in the U.S. > >Chev. Edward Rach KTJ, CSSt.S, FRC, PNAF > > >>Have you looked at www.paine.org ? >>There is a page there with some suggestions about the origin of the name. >>John Paine >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John & Sandy Brandt <brandt@comwares.net> >>To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: 11 September 1999 19:13 >>Subject: Origin of the name Payne >> >> >>>I am putting together a small booklet for our family; historic info, family >>>sheets and a short history on the origin and possible "meaning" of each of >>>our family lines. This is NOT going to be published, but a computer copy, >>>meant for our family only. I am asking for some assistance on the name, >>>Payne. This is meant to be rather generic, but I hesitate to use the stuff >>>received in the mail from Bath, Ohio. I only know that our Wayne Co. IL. >>>Payne ancestor, Thomas, was b. in 1808 in N.C., so I have a lot of future >>>research ahead of me! Thanks for whatever help you might offer! >>>Sandra Brandt >>>brandt@comwares.net > > > >

Have you looked at www.paine.org ? There is a page there with some suggestions about the origin of the name. John Paine -----Original Message----- From: John & Sandy Brandt <brandt@comwares.net> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 11 September 1999 19:13 Subject: Origin of the name Payne >I am putting together a small booklet for our family; historic info, family >sheets and a short history on the origin and possible "meaning" of each of >our family lines. This is NOT going to be published, but a computer copy, >meant for our family only. I am asking for some assistance on the name, >Payne. This is meant to be rather generic, but I hesitate to use the stuff >received in the mail from Bath, Ohio. I only know that our Wayne Co. IL. >Payne ancestor, Thomas, was b. in 1808 in N.C., so I have a lot of future >research ahead of me! Thanks for whatever help you might offer! >Sandra Brandt >brandt@comwares.net > >______________________________

I read somewhere that Payne came from the word pagan in Britain and stems from those people who lived in isolated areas and didn't become christianized as early as those in more populated centers. I've never done any research on this but it seemed logical to me. Probably there are many separate origins of the name. DJ

Barker, NY Norman G. Payne of Barker passed away unexpectedly Thursday evening, April 1, 199(?) at Medina Memorial Hospital. Mr. Payne was born in the Town of Yates on May 23, 1934, a son of Dewey L. Payne and the late Luella (Herendeen) Payne. Mr. Payne was employed by the Town of Somerset Highway Dept. until retirement and he also had farmed for several years. He was a member of the Medina Moose Lodge. He was predeceased by a brother Ronald H. Payne. He is survived by a son Timothy R. (Antoinette) Payne and a daughter, Debra Payne, both of Lockport, NY; father, Dewey Payne of Barker; sister, Janice (John) Davies of Westernville, NY; two stepchildren, Laurie Craine of Newfane, NY and Steven Craine of Lockport; nine grandchildren; several nieces and nephews. Burial will be in Lynhaven Cemetery.

I would like to comment.. Yes the very early DAR applications were not always reliable but any after about 1960 are much better. You had to supply proof and in many cases the old proof was proved unreliable. In the first years, everyone wanted to be a DAR member. Thanks in advance, Peggy Hornick Iowa pegpowel@netins.net ---------- Ancestry.com added three books to their DAR database and threw the whole thing (all 140 books) open to the world to search for free for 10 days. The 10 days started before today, so hurry. The URL is http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3174.htm I found it did best with two names; the search window uses an implied "AND". That is, if you enter "Thomas Burnham" (Without the quotes) you get all the entries that contain "Thomas" and "Burnham". So, you'd get an entry that has "Joseph Thomas" and "George Burnham" as well as the one with "Thomas Burnham". If you enter just "Thomas" you'll get a gazillion hits. Also, I've been warned that early DAR applications could be suspect. About all you really had to prove was that you were a white woman with clean fingernails who could show up sober to afternoon meetings. Take everything you find as a clue to further research. The DAR will send you a copy of the original application for $5. It may have birth dates, birth places, and citations.

Thanks for helping spread the word! Many of us, especially the GA, VA, TN, NC, SC Paynes and allied families have been unaware of this for generations. Regards, Barb McCreary Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/9401/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sklong1@aol.com> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 5:27 PM Subject: Melungeon > The Melungeon Health Education And Support Network - > Descendants of Melungeon connected families may inherit one of > five Mediterranean illnesses. This site is devoted to > educating the descendants and others of Mediterranean ancestry > about these illnesses and providing support for those who > suffer with them: > http://www.melungeonhealth.org > > The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy > Newsletter and is copyright 1999 by Richard W. Eastman. It is > re-published here with the permission of the author. > >

The Melungeon Health Education And Support Network - Descendants of Melungeon connected families may inherit one of five Mediterranean illnesses. This site is devoted to educating the descendants and others of Mediterranean ancestry about these illnesses and providing support for those who suffer with them: http://www.melungeonhealth.org The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 1999 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author.

Ancestry.com added three books to their DAR database and threw the whole thing (all 140 books) open to the world to search for free for 10 days. The 10 days started before today, so hurry. The URL is http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3174.htm I found it did best with two names; the search window uses an implied "AND". That is, if you enter "Thomas Burnham" (Without the quotes) you get all the entries that contain "Thomas" and "Burnham". So, you'd get an entry that has "Joseph Thomas" and "George Burnham" as well as the one with "Thomas Burnham". If you enter just "Thomas" you'll get a gazillion hits. Also, I've been warned that early DAR applications could be suspect. About all you really had to prove was that you were a white woman with clean fingernails who could show up sober to afternoon meetings. Take everything you find as a clue to further research. The DAR will send you a copy of the original application for $5. It may have birth dates, birth places, and citations.

I'm looking for information on Asa Frank Payne , he was born in Franklin County , Georgia . He moved wife Octavia N.and childten to Ider Alabama in Dekalb County. He was my gggrandfather. Also I'm need infromation on A Captian John G. Payne ,who was named for Fort Payne, Alabama . I was told by my father , he was related to us.I havenn't fond the connecton to him . I Have been unable to find anything on him. Please help me if you can. Carlene Callahan But my God shall supply all your needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4: 19

Does anyone know of a good resource for Payne's in California around the late 1890's through 1920? Many of you know that I am trying to get information beyond my ggrandfather, John Thomas Payne, who died in Savanah, Ga. around 1918. So far, I have focused on the Paynes in that region at that time, and have not come up any leads. Last weekend I was talking to my mother, and she remembered a discussion years ago that indicates that after John Thomas died, his parent tried to acquire custody of his oldest son, Edwin Earl. Mary Pearl, John's widow, refused, even though she was very poor at the time. Mom seemed to recall the comment that the elder Paynes had travelled from California, they were wealthy, and 'something about raising horses'. Does this trigger anything with anyone? Was the Del Mar Racegrounds around back then? Race horses are purely a guess; I have no idea what breed or for what purpose they may have been raced. Best regards, Frank L. Healy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Maureen..thank you for posting the Payne wills from Virginia...I am going to put them up on my web site, on the WILLS page! Cissie Payne

I subscibed to this list under my geocities mail account. Since Yahoo took them over the POP 3 Outgoing Mail is not longer available. I need to unsubscribe the following mail account from the Payne-L list. smokeymtnman@geocities.com Please unsubscribe that account from this list. Thank you, Joe Payne Knoxville, TN ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

Westmoreland County, Virginia Will Books Payne, George 6 October 1787-26 - January 1790 Bros. Richard and Daniel. Sons William, George, John and Richard. Daughters Jane Kelly and Mary Morris. Payne, John 4 October 1697-23 - February 1697 Wife Elizabeth one-third of my estate. Sons John and William residue of estate. Payne, (Paine) William 31 January 1697 - 23 February 1697 Eldest son William when 16 to be exr. son Edward 700 acres in Stafford, eldest daughter Anne by a former venture 6 cows, 6 ewes, furniture and etc. My daughter Betty one Negro, daughter Mary 10,000 pounds tobacco at age 16 years, daughter Anne to go after my decease to Colonel Lee's house, Richard Lee, one horse, my beloved wife, Payne, John of Cople 9 December probate obliterated Son John to work for his mother until he is 21 years of age, daughter Elizabeth, wife Millicent, son James. McCarty, Daniel 29 March 1724 - 9 June 1724 Son-in-law WILLIAM PAYNE picture of son and daughter Fitzhugh to their son when 7 years old. Jadwin, Jeremiah 2 December 1697 - 23 February 1697 My god daughter ANNE PAYNE daughter of WILLIAM PAYNE Negro girl Moll for 22 years then to be free. Rowbothan, Elizabeth 11 July 1739 - 31 July 1739 I give to MARY PAYNE all of my estate. (Administrator William Rice who married Mary Payne) Rice, William XXXXX -17 May 1733 Wife Mary, sons William, Zerababel and John, daughter Rebecca PAYNE Carter, Ann 5 January 1789 - 31 March 1789 Daughter SARA PAYNE 5 shillings. Hope this helps someone. Maureen

From: "rwaycaster" <rwaycaster@mindspring.com> To: "David Payne" <otime@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Presley Payne Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:12:18 -0500 Hello David, I have a relative who thinks we somehow descend from a John Carrol and Jane Walls Payne. Have you ever heard these names before? Are you in Georgia? I am still getting settled in from my move, I will send you what Info I have as soon as possible. Talk to you later, Rita ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

How do I get to Payne -L web site . Have tried to find it in rootsweb . Unable to locate it again. Carlene P. Callahan at ecarlene@webtv.net But my God shall supply all your needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4: 19

Searching for Payne family that moved back and forth across the RI/MA border. Dexter, his brother John; Paynes that married into the Hannaway family (sometimes spelled as Hannoway). May have come from Attleboro. Dexter and John were living in Blackstone MA at abt 1850 probably working in mills there. Thank you for any assistance you may provide. Jean E. S

Seeking ancestry and descendants of Lucy Ann Payne, born abt Oct 1854 in Tennessee. She married 13 Jan 1881 in Franklin TN to Joseph L. Money of Jackson Co. AL, where they had at least five children: James Morgan (1881), Robert A. (1884), Mary J. (1885), Benjamin A. (1889) and May (1891). Any help would be greatly appreciated. John Williams abeus @bellatlantic.net (201) 444-7777 P.P. Box 348 Hawthorne NJ 07507