In a message dated 10/11/1999 4:42:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CissieP@aol.com writes: << or those interested in the Dolly Payne Madison line, go to my PAYNE web site...http://209.249.8.207 <A HREF="http://209.249.8.207/">CissieP's Genealogy Page</A> .....Scroll down to the FOREST section, and then to WILLIAM PAYNE and SUSANNA MERRIMAN of Virginia, who are her ancestors. Hope this helps. Cissie Payne >> Cissie, This is a wonderful site! You have done a great deal of research, thank you for sharing. Have you been able to find a Will for Richard Payne, son of John Payne and Margaret of Old Rappahannonck? I am trying to find the father of William Payne m. Elizabeth Pope (Yeocommoco) Westmoreland County. I have not been able to connect him to the Old Rappa Paynes (John & Margaret). There was a John Payne m. Milicent who was in Northumberland/ Westmoreland from abt 1651 until 1668 when he died. This John Paine owned land adjacent to Richard Lee, and William Payne of Yeocommoco owned land on the other side of Richard Lee. They had one connection, and that was Richard Lee. John Payne was a tenant of Richard Lee, and William Payne mentioned Richard Lee in his Will and made Richard Lee the guardian of his daughter, Ann. Thank you for the Dolly Madison info, also. Nancy Norman

For those interested in the Dolly Payne Madison line, go to my PAYNE web site...http://209.249.8.207 <A HREF="http://209.249.8.207/">CissieP's Genealogy Page</A> .....Scroll down to the FOREST section, and then to WILLIAM PAYNE and SUSANNA MERRIMAN of Virginia, who are her ancestors. Hope this helps. Cissie Payne

Hi Nola the url you gave is not working. Could you have possibly printed wrong? Sincerely Sherry Davis-Ellis PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > PAYNE-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 219 > > Today's Topics: > #1 SEARCH TIP [PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY)] > #2 FRANCES PAYNE:1790SC/M.SPRADLEY181 [PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY)] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from PAYNE-D, send a message to > > PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: SEARCH TIP > Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:15:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > SEARCH TIP > FAMILY TREE RESEARCH CENTER: WAR OF 1812 - TIP FOR SEARCHING THE SITE > http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/w1812/list/1,2824,00.ht > WAR of 1812 SITE: I have discovered a trick. Since the site > only displays the first 100 names and then one has to know the exact > first name in searching, run the alphabet - as the initial only. If > there are more than 100 within any letter of the alphabet - run the > alphabet with the second or third letter wherever the list ends on the > first name. This method should bring everyone up without knowing any > first names. Hope this is clear. It worked for me. Good Luck. > Nola Payne > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: FRANCES PAYNE:1790SC/M.SPRADLEY1814/AL1830S/D.AL1863/FATHER? > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:56:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > --WebTV-Mail-12502-11906 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > My PAYNE is William M. married 1830 to Judy A. BELCHER in Tazewell, > Virginia. So far we have no clue where William came from or his > parentage. > Will keep your info on file and in mind while "digging". > I NOTE PDT+7 (5:41 PM) on your message: > Just curious as to where you are. > > Glad you got my SEARCH TIP. Hope it is of help to you. It got my > dander up when I could not do a full search and my "thinking computer" > jumped into gear. WAR OF 1812 site recommendation credit belongs to > Sheila Hoffman of HENDERSON-L. I have been thanked for the site and > thanks goes to Sheila. > > Regards, Nola Payne in WA > > --WebTV-Mail-12502-11906 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by > postoffice-153.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 > 10:59:42 -0700 (PDT) > Return-Path: <j.buckleyjr@att.net> > Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net > [204.127.131.39]) by mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) > with ESMTP id KAA23403 for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 > 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: j.buckleyjr@att.net > Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([135.145.254.79]) by > mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with > SMTP id <19991005175916.ERPW15731@webmail.worldnet.att.net> for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; > Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:59:16 +0000 > Received: from [12.75.41.157] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 > 17:41:04 +0000 > To: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) > Subject: Re: SEARCH TIP > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:41:04 +0000 > X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 31 1999) > X-Authenticated-Sender: j.buckleyjr@att.net > Message-Id: <19991005175916.ERPW15731@webmail.worldnet.att.net> > > Hello Nola, > My name is Jim Buckley and I am researching the Payne > family line. My ancestress was Frances Payne born about > 1790 in Kershaw Co., SC and m. Bryant Spradley there > 1814 and moved to Montgomery Co., AL in 1830's and died > in Lowndes Co., AL 1863. Have you researched the Payne > line and have you encountered her possible fathers, > George or John Payne? > Regards, > Jim > > > > SEARCH TIP > > FAMILY TREE RESEARCH CENTER: WAR OF 1812 - TIP FOR SEARCHING THE SITE > > http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/w1812/list/1,2824,00.ht > > WAR of 1812 SITE: I have discovered a trick. Since the site > > only displays the first 100 names and then one has to know the exact > > first name in searching, run the alphabet - as the initial only. If > > there are more than 100 within any letter of the alphabet - run the > > alphabet with the second or third letter wherever the list ends on the > > first name. This method should bring everyone up without knowing any > > first names. Hope this is clear. It worked for me. Good Luck. > > Nola Payne > > > > --WebTV-Mail-12502-11906--

If one ever wants ones Genealogy done for Free, become a President (-:) !!!! There are many sites out there in cyberworld, ie, "Genealogies of the U.S. Presidents" , and more info in Libraries on their Genealogies. I just did a quick cyber-tour on Dolley to get this on her....Born 20 May 1768 in GUILFORD CO., NC. Married first to TODD, had one TODD child. Married next to JAMES MADISON (4th President 1809-1817). Married 15 Sept 1794 in Harewood, Nr Charles Town, VA. Dolley died 12 July 1849 in Wash DC, buried in Montpelier, Orange Co, VA. Another site list her parents as JOHN PAYNE JR. & MARY COLE. Hope this helps some. Janet & The PaynePack successwoods@thegrid.net

Nancy, Gary Boyd Roberts has been running articles on ancestral lines of famous people, including wives of presidents such as Dolley Madison, in the pages of the NEHGS' publication "NEXUS". Your local library or genealogy society might have them. Another public library reference book, William A. DeGregorio, "The Complete Book of U. S. Presidents", Dembner Books 1984, states on p. 58 she was born 29 May 1768 at the New Garden Quaker settlement in North Carolina where her parents, John Payne and Mary Coles Payne, lived briefly. However, she spent her early years mostly on the family plantation in Goochland, VA. Her father, a devout Quaker convert, later freed his slaves, sold the plantation and moved the family to Philadelphia "where he went bankrupt as a starch manufacturer." The stuff you can find in the public library! There may be a Dolley Madison society with a webpage. The US Mint earlier this year produced a special commemorative coin in proof silver for some such society. As there's already one for her husband James Madison, you can actually get the couple "together again"! Bob Gerrity ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Would anyone have information on the Parents of Dolly Payne Todd Madison? She was the daughter of John Payne & Mary Coles of Hanover County, VA. John and Mary were married abt. 1661 in Hanover County, VA. They later moved to NC where Dolly was born (abt. 1668). I am researching the Paynes of the Northern Neck, and have found a William Payne of Westmoreland m. Elizabeth Harness Payne. William was the son of John Paine and Elizabeth ? of Westmoreland. After the death of William Payne, Elizabeth Harness Payne moved to Hanover COunty, VA. (abt. 1723). I am wondering if John Payne, father of Dolly Madison, was a son or grandson of William Payne & Elizabeth Harness Payne. I am glad to share information. Thank you, Nancy Norman

This is the website of CIVIL WAR COLLECTIONS from University of Missouri, which includes the business, personal( FAMILY GENEALOGY), & legal papers of MOSES UPSHAW PAYNE & his nephew MOSES M. BROADWELL. MOSES U. PAYNE resided in BOONE COUNTY, MISSOURI from 1823 to 1895. He was born in VERSAILLES, WOODFORD COUNTY, KENTUCKY on 25 Oct 1807 to MOSES & MARY PAYNE. MOSES & MARY PAYNE'S children were MOSES U. , JACOB U. , ANDREW MILLER , ELIZABETH (BROADWELL) , & MARIE HARRIET (WOOD) PAYNE. http://www.system.missouri.edu/whmc/invent/payne.htm hope this helps in someone's Family Research, Janet & The PaynePack

The Centre in Islington is known as the "Family Records Centre". In addition to births, marriages and deaths, it also has census records. (Because of the 100 year rule, the latest available census is 1891) The Public Records Office is at Kew. Both can be found on the web by visiting at www.pro.gov.uk John Paine -----Original Message----- From: glynices@touchstone.co.uk <glynices@touchstone.co.uk> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 08 October 1999 09:12 Subject: To Nola Payne >http://www.cohsoft.com.au/afhc/country.html#uk > >This site led me to English ones. The best place to start might be the Public >Records office in Islington London. >I think they keep details of marriages, deaths etc. If you need any further >help, email me privately and I will >dig out some more sites as I am in London so its pretty easy for me. > >Hope you progress well. > >Glynice Smith (mother Clarice May Payne of Brighton, Sussex, England) >

Hi Again, The Morman Genealogy search site has your Jeremiah...it is the sameone in Washington County, Indiana, although the LDS site says he was born Pennsylvania. It is says his father was SAMUEL PAINE, born about 1740, probably Pennsylvania, who died December 26, 1818 in Butler, Penn, He married Mary Stillwell, born before 1747 in Pennsylvania, died after 1813, Preble, Butler, Ohio. These are the children listed: Mariam Born 22 March 1778, possily Bedford Pennsylvania. Died 1858, Brownsville Township, Union, Indiana. Buried Richmond, Wayne Indiana, elkhorn Cemetery, Miriam born about 1776, probably Pennsylvania. Elijah Born about 1785, probably Pennsylvania, Bedford. Died, 1824-26. Jonathan Born 1770, Pennsylvania Jeremiah About 1769, Pennsylvania. Died February 1, 1861, Washington, Indiana John Born 1771 Pennsylvania Isaac Born 1774 Bedford, Pa. William born about 1776, Bedford Pa. Mary, Born 4, December, 1768, Nelson Kentucky Died 14 December 1870 Grant Indiana Elias Payne born about 1782, possibly Bedford, Pa. Died 13 September, 1812, Pidgeon Roost, Vienna, Indiana. Rebecca Born 1784 Possible Bedford, Pa. This gives you quite a lot of new infomation to explore! Cissie Payne

Laura, A Jeramiah Payne appears on the 1850 Indiana census for Washington County, Franklin Township. I suspect this is your Jerremiah: Here is the information: JEREMIAH PAYNE AGE 79 (born 1771) Born MARYLAND SARAH WIFE AGE 70 BORN PENNSYLVANIA CHRISTIANA DAUGHTER 27 BORN INDIANA He is not on the 1810 census index, but appears on the 1820 in Clark County. Given that the birthdate is very near to your Jeremiah and the wife's name is Sarah, it appears likely that this is your family. There are other PAYNES in Washington County, Franklin Township, some of whom are undoubtedly his grown children. Go to <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/genetop.html">Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: Genealogy Help and Resources</A>, scroll to the bottom of the oage, click on BOOKS, and scroll to RECORDS on the right hand side. CLICK on this. It will various census's, by state. Click on INDIANA, and then click on 1850, and hit FIRST PAGE OF BOOK, and SEARCH, and enter Jeremiah Paine. You will get his listing in the index, and if you click to the right of that, you will get the actual census microfilm. Good Luck. Cissie Payne

http://www.cohsoft.com.au/afhc/country.html#uk This site led me to English ones. The best place to start might be the Public Records office in Islington London. I think they keep details of marriages, deaths etc. If you need any further help, email me privately and I will dig out some more sites as I am in London so its pretty easy for me. Hope you progress well. Glynice Smith (mother Clarice May Payne of Brighton, Sussex, England)

Civil Registration started in England in 1837, so there will be no birth certificate for someone born in 1828. However, if you know the parish in which he was born, there is a good chance that he was baptised and he will appear in the Baptism Register. These are usually held in the County Records Office. Registers give details of parents. As you are presumably in the US, a good place to start looking would be in the IGI which should be available to you relatively easily. For England it is organised by county which narrows the field! If he emigrated, he might have come to the US with his parents, in which case you might be able to find him on passenger lists which are held at the Public Records Office at Kew (near London). A bit of a long shot unless you know when he emigrated. Try looking at www.pro.gov.uk to see if there is anything on their web site about emigrants. Hope this helps. John Paine www.paine.org/home/john.paine -----Original Message----- From: PAYNE FAMILY <PAYNE9@webtv.net> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 06 October 1999 22:34 Subject: DYERS IN ENGLAND > Amelia Content Cotton(B. 1833 OH)-David James Dyer II (B. >1828 Kent, Eng.) m. 3 October 1853 by Elder Poe Cleveland OH David James >Dyer III(B. 1854 Ohio) -Marena Adele Wiser (Res. Yamhill,OR) >m. l Oct. 1884 > >David James DYER was born 1828 KENT, ENGLAND. > >CAN ANYONE give me some pointers in researching in ENGLAND? HAVE NO >IDEA on where to start. Are there any lists for this research? > >Thanks, Nola Payne > >______________________________

I am very new at this genealogical searching and this is my first inquiry so please forgive any errors or presumptions on my part. :) I am looking for the parents or any information regarding my ancestor Jeremiah Payne. I have traced my history to him & then I am not finding any more info. I know that he and his brother Elias Payne moved from KY to Indiana and settled at Pidgeon Roost. (Near present day Vienna or Scottsburg IN.) There was a massacre in approx. 1812 and Elias & his entire family where killed. Jeremiah and his family survived. It is from he (Jeremiah) that I am descended. I know that he was born at Shelby,Kentucky (not Shelbyville KY) about 1773 and married Sallie "Sarah" McCoy on May 9th 1797. I do not have his date of death. I know that he had at least one brother named Elias who was perhaps married to a woman with the maiden name of Bridgewater(?) and they had approx. 7 children. This fact is mentioned an account by the Collins Family of the Pidgeon Roost Massacre . It is in book form. There are also several other accounts. What I am looking for is information on the parents of Jeremiah & Elias or any information which may help me in locating this information. Or where this branch of the family came from before settling in Shelby,KY. (Family tradition says they came form Virginia. so far family history has proven true, but I know that it cannot be totally trusted. I contacted a KY library & was told that there did exist a settlement called Shelby, Ky. in what is now Pike Co. This information was found in a book called "Kentucky Place Names" I greatly appreciate any information given or shared, and thank you for you time & efforts. Laura Krajnak

Cornell University has put the ENTIRE "War of the Rebellion" on the internet!!! Over 60 volumes!!! It includes scanned images of reports, correspondence, seizures of Southern property, etc. sent to the War Dept. during the Civil War. It includes both Union and Confederate accounts. It is in chronological order but there is no online index. Many libraries have the index. Find the volume and page number for your subject in the index at the library. Go to this website http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/MOA/MOA-JOURNALS2/WARO.html and you're in business. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I am seeking info about the following children of Edward Paine of Tompkins Co. NY, all born between 1820-1835. Their mother Sophia died and they were sent off to relatives unknown, except Darius who stayed with his father. I am descended from their brother Silas. Darius, Horace W., Marinda, John Henry, Caroline (Payne) Eltz, and Sophia (Payne) Dennis. Deb Gunther

I am looking for any info I may find about Mary Virginia Payne. She was born in Hamilton Virginia about 1910 or 1911. She married Maurice Joseph Connelly Jr. May of 1933 in Leesburg Va. She is buried in a cemetery in Hamilton VA. Any info would be appreciated. Duanne Fogle

     Amelia Content Cotton(B. 1833 OH)-David James Dyer II (B. 1828 Kent, Eng.) m. 3 October 1853 by Elder Poe Cleveland OH David James Dyer III(B. 1854 Ohio)     -Marena Adele Wiser (Res. Yamhill,OR) m. l Oct. 1884 David James DYER was born 1828 KENT, ENGLAND. CAN ANYONE give me some pointers in researching in ENGLAND? HAVE NO IDEA on where to start. Are there any lists for this research? Thanks, Nola Payne

--WebTV-Mail-25613-54 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi, Don -- THIS IS MY LINE OF NEFFS AND THE SURNAMES WHICH HELPED CARRY THE NEFF BLOOD THROUGH THE GENERATIONS TO MY CHILDREN. Brothers Jacob and Rudolph Naf (Neff) came into Philadelphia area, specifically Frankford, PA" Sept. 11, 1749. ... in the ship Priscilla, William Meier, Captain, from Rotterdam, last from Cowes. 299 passengers." They were naturalized 3 April 1763. They were born Zurich, Switzerland and descended from Adam Naf who gained fame in battle and thus gained citizenship in Switzerland 1538. Check the Don Neff Site on the net and you will see a portrait of Adam Naf and his home in Switzerland and his sword. I am descended from Jacob, b. 3 March 1726 Zurich, m. Anna BUSER 3 Feb. 1756, d. 3 Sept 1793 /Frankford (Philadelphia) PA. Anna was b. 24 June 1739, d. 24 Feb. 1805. ADAM 1538 Citizenship Zurich, Switzerland; HEINI; HANS; HANS; JACOB; HEINRICH; JACOB; IMMIGRANT JACOB 1726-1793 m. Anna BUSER; JACOB b. 30 DEC. 1772 d. 17 NOV. 1808 m. Mary WOLFE; Charles b. 180i Philadelphia, PA, m. Catherine DEWITT 1829(?), d. 1846-47? Cincinnati, OH. Catherine b. 1812 New York, d.? IN (remarried John GOLDEN); Rudolph b. 1837 Cincinnati OH, d. 1917 Firwood, Pierce Co., WA, m. Sarah Jane LOPER 1859, Sarah (Sally) b. 1843 Cincinnati OH, d. 1932 Firwood, Pierce Co., WA; Emma Frances NEFF m. John Culbert RANKIN II(1875-1940); James Forrest RANKIN (1906-1992) m. Evelyn Blanche RIDLEY(1912-1994); Nola Lois RANKIN (1935) m. Sheridan Lewis PAYNE (1933). Thanks for asking. Nola Payne --WebTV-Mail-25613-54 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by postoffice-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <neffdonald@hotmail.com> Received: from hotmail.com (law-f262.hotmail.com [209.185.130.178]) by mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with SMTP id XAA06118 for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 71856 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 1999 06:14:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19991006061454.71855.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.21.210.24 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:14:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.21.210.24] From: "Donald Neff" <neffdonald@hotmail.com> To: PAYNE9@webtv.net Subject: Fwd: Fw: NEFF Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:14:53 AKDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Helo Nola, I'm not sure what I have sent you already. I have been in contact with John Murray regarding my ancestory. He has connected my line to his Neff E Line tracing it back to Sebastion Naff of Franklin Co VA b:1745. How are you connected to the Neff's? Don Neff Anchorage Alaska >From: "Don" <djneff@mtaonline.net> >To: "Don Neff" <neffdonald@hotmail.com> >Subject: Fw: NEFF >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:01:24 -0000 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: PAYNE FAMILY <PAYNE9@webtv.net> >To: <NEFF-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:02 PM >Subject: NEFF > > > > HI--- > > Thanks a whole big bunch for your Neff info. > > Every bit helps to identify the Neffs in all areas so to know whether or > > not to consider them in the particular family group being researched. > > The Jacob and Rudolph that came into the Philadelphia area in the 1700s > > were also from > > Switzerland and are traced back to Adam Naf in the 1500's there in > > Switzerland. Makes one wonder if the Lancaster family and this family > > could be related in that country. > > Thanks again. Till then .........Nola > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --WebTV-Mail-25613-54--

--WebTV-Mail-24678-13136 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit HI - GAIL -- My husband, SheridanLewis Payne B l933 Wenatchee, Chelan Co., WA is the DEAN ancestry. His great grandfather Flavius Josephus PAYNE B. Tazewell, VA 1835 (son and oldest child of William M. Payne and second wife Judy A BELCHER m. 1830 Tazewell, VA) migrated to Spickard Grundy Co.,MO. He married second Harriet DEAN I believe from the Princeton, MO area. I am just beginning to gather info on the DEANS. I have been to BETHEL CEMETERY where PAYNES AND DEANS are buried. RANKIN: This is my side of the family, Nola Lois Rankin 1935 Tacoma, Pierce Co., WA. The Rankins came into Allegheny Co., PA -- Pittsburgh area in 1839 from Londonderry, Co. Derry, Ireland. They were JOHN RANKIN and CATHERINE EDMUNDSON. John's birthdate is not known but his brother William was born 1744. John & Catherine's children were: Samuel Edmundson RANKIN (my line) 1798-1881; Samuel's twin William 1798-?; John 1786-1857; Alexander (no dates); Jane 1792; Bettie (no dates); Robert 1795-1874; ary Ann 1814-1882. ALL were born in Ireland and came in 1839 to America. SAMUEL EDMUNDSON RANKIN (MY LINE): Born in County Derry, Ireland in 1798. Died in Allegheny Co., PA in 1881. Burried in Mt. Vernon Cemetery, Elizabeth Township. Married JANE CULBERT (1799-1854) in Mt. Vernon, PA. (Jane was one of twelve children all born in Ireland). Their children were: JOHN CULBERT RANKIN (my line) 1836-1898; Eliza Mary Rankin 1838-1915 married DUNCAN; Catherine Ann l840-1914 married CULBERT; James Alexander 1843-1864; Samuel George 1845-1865. James and John were Civil War casualties. ALL BURIED in Mt. Vernon Cemetery except John Culbert Rankin who migrated with his family to KANSAS. JOHN CULBERT (I) RANKIN, B. 5 JAN. 1836, M. 24 SEPT 185? West Newton , PA, D. 27 March 1898 Near Beloit, KS. bur. Beloit, KS; WIFE: Mary CLOMAN B. 5 Nov. 1839 Greenoak, PA; D. 8 Oct. 1922 Near Beloit, KS, bur. at Beloit, KS. FAMILY MOVED BY TRAIN TO KS 6 MARCH 1880. Children of John Culbert RANKIN & Mary CLOMAN were: Samuel Wakefield RANKIN B. 26 Oct. 1858 PA, D. 13 Dec. 1938, PA (80 yrs); Frances Jane B. 16Oct.1860 PA, D. 1884 of TB (24 yrs-unmarried); James Alexander RANKIN, B. 4 NOV. 1862, PA, D. 12 JAN 1944 Beloit, KS (82 yrs-unmarried); Thomas Stewart RANKIN B. 14 Nov. 1864, PA. D. 1889 (25 yrs -typhoid fever-unmarried); Ella Kate RANKIN B. 7 DEC. 1866 PA, D. 12 MARCH 1950 (Husbands: SELLERS AND KAMMER); Mary Cloman RANKIN B. 11 FEB. 1869 PA. D. 1 JAN. 1955 Husband: CONGER; William Culbert RANKIN B. 8 MAY 1871 PA, D. 28 AUG1899 (28 yrs-unmarried); Edgar Cloman RANKIN B. 27 APRIL 1873 PA, D. 26 APRIL 1953 Beloit KS(80 yrs-unmarried); John Culbert RANKIN II. B. 19 MAY 1875 PA, D 1 JAN. 1940 Puyallup, Pierce Co., WA (65 yrs), Wife Emma Frances NEFF; Robert Cloman RANKIN, B. 31 MAY 1879 PA, D. 5 AUG. 1969 puyallup, Pierce Co., WA(90 yrs) Wife Cecelia (?); Eliza Belle RANKIN B. 17 DEC. 1880 NEAR BELOIT, KS, D. 28 JUNE 1957 Topeka, KS (76+ yrs.) Husband Jacob Rudolph NEFF (Bro. to Emma Frances NEFF) John Culbert RANKIN & Emma Frances NEFF came west to WA State in 19l0 with their family to and settled on a Berry Farm, Firwood School District near Puyallup, WA, Pierce Co. where they raised their family. I AM the daughter of one of their sons, James Forrest RANKIN (1904-1992) WHO MOVED with his wife Evelyn Blanche RIDLEY (1912-1994) June 1943 to East of the Cascades in WA State and by Christmas settled near Peshastin, Chelan Co., WA, on Blewett Pass Highway where they raised their family of seven children. Nola Payne --WebTV-Mail-24678-13136 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by postoffice-153.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <DEAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id NAA06039; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23307; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19991005200747.52991.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.230.159.180] From: "Gale S." <magnoyla@hotmail.com> Old-To: PAYNE9@webtv.net, DEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SEARCH TIP Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 13:07:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <aeIcx.A.BsF.wql-3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: DEAN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DEAN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DEAN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/884 X-Loop: DEAN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DEAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Nola, I noticed you are on both my Dean-L and the Rankin-L. I too am searching for both Dean and Rankin. Maybe we have similar ancestors. What paths have your Dean and Rankins taken? Gale From: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) To: DEAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SEARCH TIP Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT)      SEARCH TIP FAMILY TREE RESEARCH CENTER: WAR OF 1812 - TIP FOR SEARCHING THE SITE http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/w1812/list/1,2824,00.ht    WAR of 1812 SITE: I have discovered a trick. Since the site only displays the first 100 names and then one has to know the exact first name in searching, run the alphabet - as the initial only. If there are more than 100 within any letter of the alphabet - run the alphabet with the second or third letter wherever the list ends on the first name. This method should bring everyone up without knowing any first names.   Hope this is clear. It worked for me. Good Luck.     Nola Payne ==== DEAN Mailing List ==== For help with the DEAN surname mailing list visit: http://www.mcn.net/~hmscook/roots/dean.html Remember to support RootsWeb. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ==== DEAN Mailing List ==== For help with the DEAN surname mailing list visit: http://www.mcn.net/~hmscook/roots/dean.html Remember to support RootsWeb. --WebTV-Mail-24678-13136--

--WebTV-Mail-12502-11906 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit My PAYNE is William M. married 1830 to Judy A. BELCHER in Tazewell, Virginia. So far we have no clue where William came from or his parentage. Will keep your info on file and in mind while "digging". I NOTE PDT+7 (5:41 PM) on your message: Just curious as to where you are. Glad you got my SEARCH TIP. Hope it is of help to you. It got my dander up when I could not do a full search and my "thinking computer" jumped into gear. WAR OF 1812 site recommendation credit belongs to Sheila Hoffman of HENDERSON-L. I have been thanked for the site and thanks goes to Sheila. Regards, Nola Payne in WA --WebTV-Mail-12502-11906 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by postoffice-153.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <j.buckleyjr@att.net> Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by mailsorter-102-4.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id KAA23403 for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) From: j.buckleyjr@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([135.145.254.79]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991005175916.ERPW15731@webmail.worldnet.att.net> for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:59:16 +0000 Received: from [12.75.41.157] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:41:04 +0000 To: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) Subject: Re: SEARCH TIP Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:41:04 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 31 1999) X-Authenticated-Sender: j.buckleyjr@att.net Message-Id: <19991005175916.ERPW15731@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hello Nola, My name is Jim Buckley and I am researching the Payne family line. My ancestress was Frances Payne born about 1790 in Kershaw Co., SC and m. Bryant Spradley there 1814 and moved to Montgomery Co., AL in 1830's and died in Lowndes Co., AL 1863. Have you researched the Payne line and have you encountered her possible fathers, George or John Payne? Regards, Jim > >   SEARCH TIP > FAMILY TREE RESEARCH CENTER: WAR OF 1812 - TIP FOR SEARCHING THE SITE > http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/w1812/list/1,2824,00.ht >    WAR of 1812 SITE: I have discovered a trick. Since the site > only displays the first 100 names and then one has to know the exact > first name in searching, run the alphabet - as the initial only. If > there are more than 100 within any letter of the alphabet - run the > alphabet with the second or third letter wherever the list ends on the > first name. This method should bring everyone up without knowing any > first names.   Hope this is clear. It worked for me. Good Luck.   >   Nola Payne > --WebTV-Mail-12502-11906--