(FROM WASHINGTON, The Evergreen State Magazine. Vol Two. Number Six May/June 1986, pp. 100, 105+, Article, THE T0WN THAT DROWNED BY Stephen Maher....FOLLOWING is last half of article. QUOTE; In the 1920s, the automobile began to change the town of Riffe. Most were Fords, or, as they called them then, Tin Lizzies. The tight kinship still held fast in Riffe, but people became more mobile and less dependent on one another. The improvement in transportton also allowed another Appalachian tradition--moonshining--to flourish and the liquor to be easily transported across county lines as far afield as Tacoma. "On most of the creeks you'd run into stills," says Marsha Bartley of Mossyrock, who settled in Riffe in 1924. "They'd sell it to whoever wanted to buy it. Even a stage line used to haul it." The moonshining helped supplement meager incomes during the Great Depression, when some families were threatened with the loss of their homes and land. "During the Depression people lived on fish and game," says GlenSchwartz. "If you had a few old cows, you had to trade them for sugar and salt. You couldn't eat them." As the 1930s came to a close and the ecoomy improved, railroad-tie mills run by independent loggers sprang up everywhere and became the main source of employment until the 1960s. At one time during the mid-1940s, 22 tie mills were operating in the immediate vicinity, and the town of Morton, eight miles east of Riffe, was dubbed the railroad-tie capital of the world. In 1946, the City of Tacoma purchased the rights to the Cowlitz River, and shortly thereafter announced plans to build two dams in the Slver Creek-Riffe area. But a court battle developed and 10 years passed before Tacoma was finally given the go-ahead. The people of Riffe were naturally fearful of what a dam downstream might mean to them and their land. When their fears became a reality, a cloud of doom settled over the town. By 1963, the year the first dam 15 miles downstream was completed, most residents of Riffe had sold their property and moved to nearby communities. The dam was 606 feet high, l,648 feet long and 115 feet wide at the base when it was finally completed. Many former residents of the town climbed the hills overlooking Riffe's former site and watched as familir physical features vanished. Before long, an 11,830-acre lake with 53 miles of shoreline engulfed the area where Riffe had been. Today, Riffe Lake is peaceful. During winter months, when the water is lowered slightly and rotting tree stumps stick out, visions of some far-off, eerie land come to mind. In the summer, when boaters take to the water and sunbathers gather at Mossyrock Park, it's easy to forget that the site of Riffe lies 225 feet below the surface. On the north side of the lake next to the dam, there is a turnoff from US Highway 12 frequented by tourists and travelers. A wooden sign with orange letters stands next to the parking lot and remnds readers that the name of the lake "honors the founders and early settlers of the community of Riffe." No mention is made of the crude ferry boat that used to cross the Cowlitz, loggers living in unpainted shacks of clapboard or broad fields of foxglove and clover. And perhaps that is wise, for it adds to the mystery and intrigue one feels when gazing at Riffe Lake and thnking of the town that once was. (The End) QUESTION: DOES A LIST OF THESE SIXTY PEOPLE WHO CAME WEST WITH FLOYD AND ARMEDIA RIFFE EXIST? Nola Payne in Wenatchee, WA Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com

Hi All... I believe the name originated in France in the 11th century, with the notation of one HUGH DE PAYAN, one of the originators of the CATHOLIC TEMPLAR KNIGHTS...if not the First knight In order to have funds for such a venture he would have had to come from a NOBLE family of means to begin with... To quote ASHMOLE; About the year 1118 this order took beginning, when nine gentle men urged by zealous devotion passed the seas top the holy land, the chief of which were Hugo de PAGANES and Godfrey de SAINT OMER, two knights of noble extraction,the other seven knights not being known. Suggest you read the early history of the TEMPLARS... Chev. Edward Rach KTJ, Knight Templar of Jeruselem

--WebTV-Mail-9347-630 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Meant for this to go to the list also. Nola --WebTV-Mail-9347-630 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ9Ngopb2kwULdvHMRI+rBXADna8wIUCFECSW5z3OMa2KrAg0wazuppXzE= From: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:53:39 -0800 (PST) To: Twayd@aol.com Subject: Re: Forward from German list: Pein Pine Paine surname--PAYNES FROM ENG Message-ID: <25680-382897E3-1504@storefull-156.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Twayd@aol.com's message of Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:32:57 EST Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) HI LISTERS: These thoughts on the German family of our surname are interesting. In re to our family from England, I would like to add and hopefully there is someone more knowledgable --that it is my understandiing that the name originated from the word PAGAN. This was attached to unrelated peoples, I believe Vikings, who were allowed to settle in the English countryside in exchange for joining the church (donot know if Catholic or Church of England). When these peoples refused, they were labeled pagans, unchurched, and then the name evolved into the different spellings....Pain, Pane, Pagne, Pyne, Payne, etc.. Many times the name was spelled several different ways in the same Courthouse as with our Flavius Josephus PAYNE (b. 1835 VA) in Grundy Co., MO.... Anyone with any more thoughts on our name? Nola Payne in WA Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com --WebTV-Mail-9347-630--

My aunt just sent me pictures of some of the Walker's from West Tennessee. I have one of Joseph Aderson Walker b. 10 March, 1846 in Holly Springs, MS d. 06 Sept. 1922 s/o James William Walker and Rebecca Miller with his wife Mary Margaret Shelton d/o John A. Shelton and America Payne. One of George Washington Walker and Sarah Emma Shelton Walker George is brother of Joseph and Sarah is the d/o Thomas Matthew Shelton and Lucinda Brown Payne. One of Alonzo Houston Walker b/o the 2 above and his wife Rebecca Frances "Fannie" Wainwright. Will be happy to share. Sidney Dyess Check out my family page <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/sidneyodyess">My Back in Time Page</A>

--part1_0.d630b0ac.2559d0e9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought this post concerning possible origins of a spelling variation might be of interest to someone. It is from a German list. Best to all. Karen S. << I would favor the name Pein over Pine certainly, but there are alternatives. The family was from Hannover, which happens to be on the Leine river. Also the town of Piene (silent "e", I presume) is the most nearby city on my 1969 map with a population of 30K while Hannover was about 500K population 30 years ago. Piene is about 40 miles West of Hannover. So the name, Pein, might well have been derived from the town Piene, and spelled that way originally. Literacy in the 19th century was spotty. Language was mostly only verbal. Many Prussian families were farmers and wouldn't care much how their names were spelled in Prussia. I operate with another caution. It is as possible as not that some occupation or meaning was attributed to a surname much later by some curious and creative relative. Such a meaning attribution tends to be retold as fact, because after all, everybody later remembers the same story. I would guess that assuming the surname, "Agony", by a family is especially unlikely, but adopting one's place for surname was routine. My amateur guess is that your ancestors took their name from the town, Piene. It might have been truncated to Pien at local discretion. In America people would be confused as to Piene or Pien pronunciation. To capture the sound unambiguously, in Amerca, the name would be spelled, Pine. ........ My ancesters included a Pien immigrant from the 1870s. We have the same spelling uncertainty. I never heard the "pain, suffering, agony" association until today. Our uncertain Americanization was Paine, not a German word. But there were other phonetic variations. end >> --part1_0.d630b0ac.2559d0e9_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (rly-zd05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.229]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v62.15) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:08:19 -0500 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:07:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00616; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:07:16 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:07:16 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: truher@pop.sirius.com Message-Id: <l03130305b44e0bb021ce@[205.134.242.75]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:07:03 -0800 Old-To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com From: Jack Truher <truher@sirius.com> Subject: [PRUSSIA] Pein surname Resent-Message-ID: <0d_zZC.A.kI.RLGK4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/13384 X-Loop: PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit concerning the question: >I am in need of some help locating my ancestors. The "Americanized" >surname is Pine. I was told by a relative that the orginal name meant >"pain" or "to hurt" in German. I would favor the name Pein over Pine certainly, but there are alternatives. The family was from Hannover, which happens to be on the Leine river. Also the town of Piene (silent "e", I presume) is the most nearby city on my 1969 map with a population of 30K while Hannover was about 500K population 30 years ago. Piene is about 40 miles West of Hannover. So the name, Pein, might well have been derived from the town Piene, and spelled that way originally. Literacy in the 19th century was spotty. Language was mostly only verbal. Many Prussian families were farmers and wouldn't care much how their names were spelled in Prussia. I operate with another caution. It is as possible as not that some occupation or meaning was attributed to a surname much later by some curious and creative relative. Such a meaning attribution tends to be retold as fact, because after all, everybody later remembers the same story. I would guess that assuming the surname, "Agony", by a family is especially unlikely, but adopting one's place for surname was routine. My amateur guess is that your ancestors took their name from the town, Piene. It might have been truncated to Pien at local discretion. In America people would be confused as to Piene or Pien pronunciation. To capture the sound unambiguously, in Amerca, the name would be spelled, Pine. ........ My ancesters included a Pien immigrant from the 1870s. We have the same spelling uncertainty. I never heard the "pain, suffering, agony" association until today. Our uncertain Americanization was Paine, not a German word. But there were other phonetic variations. ==== PRUSSIA-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Subscribers: Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html --part1_0.d630b0ac.2559d0e9_boundary--

I have found a historian that might be able to answer some of the question, some of us have been asking about the Payne's of Fort Payne, Alabama. For instants the man from whom it got it's name. The historian Mr. John G. Chambers ,308 4th Street Nw. Fort Payne, Alabama 35967( 256)845-2864 . If anyone is iinsterested. I' m related to the Payne's in Fort Payne , Alabama and Franklin County, Georgia. I have been told we are related told ,I was related to Captain John G. Payne the man Fort Payne, Alabama is named after. i'm still looking for the connection. Carlene Payne Callahan ecarlene@webtv.net But my God shall supply all your needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4: 19 When God's son,Jesus,died for you and me He paid for the price for, all our sins, and all the hurts, When He rose again, He gave us the promise of the greatest gift you and I could ever have- ETERNAL LIFE for those who believe. WILL YOU BELIEVE?

Murphy's Genealogy Laws a.. The will you need is in a safe onboard the Titanic B.. You finally find the wedding record for your gggrandfather only to discover he married Mary SMITH whose father was John SMITH and mother was Mary JONES! c.. You have finally found the information you needed to solve the family mystery you have been working on for 2 years and your elderly aunt says "I could have told you that!" d.. You find an old family photo album and upon close examination, there are no names on the pictures. e.. You learn that your great grandmother's family bible (passed down through the family for 3 generations) was sold at an estate sale in New York City. f.. You find your family in the census and write to the county where they lived for 40 years, only to receive a letter stating all the county records burned. g. You learn there is a county history on microfilm of the county your ancestors originated. It has 16000 pages and is not indexed. h.. The public ceremony in which your distinguished ancestor participated and at which the platform collapsed under him, turned out to be a hanging. Where is that guy Murphy anyway?? I really do have a few things to say to him!

Hi List, I know that many of you are already aware of the mail list archives for Rootsweb; however, for those that may not know: Almost every message on most Rootsweb mail lists are archived and can be searched through keywords. For example, for this Payne-L mail list, go to: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter "Payne-L", without the quote marks, in the "Name of List" field, then click the "Submit Query" button, it will bring up the Mason list archives, then enter a keyword. Because so many people put a list of the surnames they are researching in the signature block, if you put just Payne or a related surname in the keyword search field you will get virtually every message ever posted to the list! I suggest a first and last name and possible a location.... Which brings on another subject; you can prevent this problem by adding a character, such as a period, between the letters of the surnames you are researching in the signature block, an example would be: B.O.W.E.N, M.A.S.O.N, P.A.Y.N.E, etc......in this manner, you still are abel to relay all your surnames that you are researching, but without making it difficult to use the archives. Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida Genealogy: It's Relative!! katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen -----Original Message----- From: David Payne <otime@hotmail.com> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: November 07, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: Re: PAYNE-D Digest V99 #240 >Check this URL to find it. >http://www.icon.net/~sdcaller/payne.htm > >From: Nnrecrut@aol.com >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Payne's Book >Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:50:19 EST > > Would anyone know where I could purchase a copy of "Paynes of Virginia" By >Col. Brookes Payne. Thank you, N. Norman > > > > >Thanks, >David S. Payne >Check out my new genealogy pages: >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/ >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime >http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp >Username: user_n >Password: user90 > >Searching for surnames: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, CORBIN, CRAIG, DEAN, >FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, NEWTON, PARKER, PATTERSON, >PAYNE, REDWINE, REID, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL >My Henson Family: Go to Joseph/Lazerous/Aaron/William >http://web2.airmail.net/ldystang/gen/henson.html >My Gordons: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5917/GENEAL3.HTM#payne > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >

Dianne.. I will post your query on my web site, <A HREF="http://209.249.8.207/">Cissie P's Genealogy Page</A> , and perhaps someone will connect with you, if that is all right with you. Cissie Payne

Check this URL to find it. http://www.icon.net/~sdcaller/payne.htm From: Nnrecrut@aol.com To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Payne's Book Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:50:19 EST Would anyone know where I could purchase a copy of "Paynes of Virginia" By Col. Brookes Payne. Thank you, N. Norman Thanks, David S. Payne Check out my new genealogy pages: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/ http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp Username: user_n Password: user90 Searching for surnames: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, CORBIN, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, NEWTON, PARKER, PATTERSON, PAYNE, REDWINE, REID, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL My Henson Family: Go to Joseph/Lazerous/Aaron/William http://web2.airmail.net/ldystang/gen/henson.html My Gordons: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5917/GENEAL3.HTM#payne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Would anyone know where I could purchase a copy of "Paynes of Virginia" By Col. Brookes Payne. Thank you, N. Norman

----Original Message Follows---- From: texdick@ibx.net To: otime@hotmail.com I use GENERATION by Sierra. I have found were their program has deleted people from my database and then linked others to the wrong person in that data base. To see a screen capture of this go to a page that I have set up for this purpose. http://www.ibx.net/users/texdick/ Help me get out the word as Sierra will do nothing ! Tex Dick 305 Avalee Dr. Brooks, GA 30205 Permanent internet address Warning about Sierra's Generation at the below link http://www.ibx.net/users/texdick/ TexDick@bigfoot.com http://www.bigfoot.com/~texdick http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=texdick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello, I'm new to the list. I'm trying to find any information possible on my ggggrandfather Thomas Seaborne PAYNE. I have very little to go on so any help would be so greatly appreciated. He was a Silk hatter. He was born in 1844 or 1845. Family rumour claims he was born at sea on his way to England, however the 1881 census says he was born in Henbury, Gloucester, England. He married Eliza Jane DAVIES sometime between 1864-1869 at St. Andrews Church, Montpelier, Bristol, Gloucester, England. They had children: Thomas b 1869, Lillian b 1871, Violet b 1873, Frederick b 1875, Charles b 1878, Flora b 1880, Rosie Any help at all would be greatly appreciated! Dianne Peacock, BC, Canada

>Delivered-To: brendad@pioneer.net >Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Cathy Hall" <cat5hall@email.msn.com> >Old-To: "TNPOLK" <TNPOLK-L@rootsweb.com>, "TNBRADLEY" ><TNBRADLE-L@rootsweb.com>, > <TNMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:39:41 -0400 >Organization: Microsoft Corporation >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Subject: [TNMONROE-L] Fw: [TN-all] Can you solve a real multi-state mystery? >To: TNMONROE-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: TNMONROE-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <TNMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/999 >X-Loop: TNMONROE-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: TNMONROE-L-request@rootsweb.com >Status: > >Check this out! I sure wish this was from my family! >Cathy Hall >Grand Island, NY > >----- Original Message ----- >Subject: [TN-all] Can you solve a real multi-state mystery? > > >> From: "Billie R. McNamara" <mcnamara@usit.net> >> >> The Knox County TNGenWeb site is pleased to announce a new link to a real >> mystery. Visit http://www.wdbj.net/~tnknox/knoxphoto/mystalbum/ >> >> This photo album was recently discovered among the rubble of an old house >> in East Knox County, Tennessee. The album, dated 1866, is filled with >> photos, names, and genealogical tidbits. Sadly, most of the identified >> photo slots are empty, and most of the existing photos are >> unidentified! Many photos are from the 1860-1875 period. >> >> Here's a list of surnames and locations from both the album pages and the >> photos. Please check this page and see if you can help us identify >> anyone.... Our goal is to reunite photos of Gramma, Grampa, and >everyone's >> favorite aunt with their proper descendants -- who can provide >> documentation of relationship and show genuine interest in their >preservation. >> >> [Permission granted to forward this message in its entirety to any >> individual or list where it is appropriate.] >> >> Surnames >> --------------- >> Berger >> Boon >> Bowen >> Boyd >> Branner >> Campbell >> Cardwell >> Carter >> Chamberlain >> Chase >> Donelson >> Franklin >> French >> Gillespie >> Goodwin >> Hooper >> Howard >> Lockett >> McClung >> McFarland >> Paine >> Sale >> Smith >> Sykes >> Webb >> Wendel >> Whitfield >> >> Places >> ---------- >> Mobile, Alabama >> Seaford, Delaware >> Detroit, Michigan >> Aberdeen, Mississippi >> Okolona, Mississippi >> St. Louis, Missouri >> Cincinnati, Ohio >> Memphis, Tennessee >> >> Photographers' names >> -------------------------------- >> Balch (Memphis) >> Barnes (Mobile) >> Cadwallader (Detroit) >> Dean (Seaford) >> Dennis (Cincinnati) >> Field (Cincinnati) >> Fox (St. Louis) >> Fredricks (Several) >> Henwood (Aberdeen) >> Hoag & Quick (Cincinnati) >> Jenne (Okolona) >> Leon Van Loo (Cincinnati) >> Poole (Nashville) >> Smiley (Knoxville) >> Wilson (Mobile) >> Winder (Cincinnati) >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >TNGenWeb Bradley County >http://www.tngenweb.org/bradley >Subscribe/Unsubscribe to Bradley Mail List: >TNBRADLE-L-request@rootsweb.com >TNGenWeb Polk County >http://www.tngenweb.org/polk >Subscribe/Unsubscribe to Polk Mail List >TNPOLK-L-request@rootsweb.com > Brenda Darlene Gaines- Monroe Swamp Creek Garden -Oregon http://www.pioneer.net/~brendad/ Mom's side - Smith, Payne, Ward, Rowland, Killcreece, McDaniel, Lamb Dad's side - Gaines, Malcome, Holderby, Lewis, Harvey. Felix

THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THIS INCASE YOU DIDN`T GET THE ORIGINAL E-MAIL CHARLES PAYNE >From: "Megan Payne" <megan@demoroom.com> >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Photo Site >Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:07:37 -0800 > >This site was forwarded on to me. I looked on the site and there were about >20 Pa*nes' photos. > >Megan > > > >This site was created by the U.S. Army Military History Institute > >and it is a searchable database of their Special Collections. > >Using this database you can see if a photograph exists of your > >Civil War ancestor. There were two records for Melton. > > > >Just enter the surname you're searching and the results page will > >give any photos of any soldier with that surname, along with (if > >known) his regiment. > > > >Next, you can send an e-mail with the photo ID's that you're > >interested in. The Army will then send you (for free) a > >photocopy of the picture, along with instructions on ordering a > >duplicate photo. > > > >An 8x10 photo costs $10.00. No more then ten photos will > >be produced for any one customer per year. > > > >http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

This site was forwarded on to me. I looked on the site and there were about 20 Pa*nes' photos. Megan >This site was created by the U.S. Army Military History Institute >and it is a searchable database of their Special Collections. >Using this database you can see if a photograph exists of your >Civil War ancestor. There were two records for Melton. > >Just enter the surname you're searching and the results page will >give any photos of any soldier with that surname, along with (if >known) his regiment. > >Next, you can send an e-mail with the photo ID's that you're >interested in. The Army will then send you (for free) a >photocopy of the picture, along with instructions on ordering a >duplicate photo. > >An 8x10 photo costs $10.00. No more then ten photos will >be produced for any one customer per year. > >http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html

I haven't posted in lately. So I thought I'd give it a shot again. Looking for Wilson Rufus Payne I am looking for any information about Wilson's parents. Wilson was born 1863 in Union Co. Ga ( according to his death certificate) I can't locate a birth certificate. His death certificate also names his father as Thomas. No mother is listed. I haven't been able to connect him to any of the "Thomas Payne". Wilson married Wealtha Cowart of Tattnall Co, GA. Family stories say that Wilson went to Tattnall Co to work in a sawmill. At some point, he became a sharecropper. Wilson and Wealtha had the following children: Mattie born 1882 Mary born 1882 Thomas borm 1885 Ruth born 1887 Joseph M. born 1890 Wilson born 1892 Eliva born 1894 Sarah born 1898 William born 1899 Thomas was my husband's grandfather. He married Vernette Lovell. Thomas died in 1950 in Pierce Co. GA. I have information about their children and will be glad to share it. If you can make any connections to this family please contact me. Thank you Bethany Payne boandbiff@AOL.com

Hello, this person is looking for his Savage/Sivage descendants, but toward the bottom she mentions >John SIVAGE b. ca. 1832 md. Lucinda Paine Hadley Just in case anyone is looking for Lucinda Paine Hadley. diane -----Original Message----- From: Tracy Jones <ptjones@scican.net> ncpasquo-l@rootsquest.com> Date: Friday, 29 October, 1999 8:50 PM Subject: NCPasquo-L: Surname SIVAGE (sometimes Sevage, Savage) >Has anyone EVER seen this name ANYWHERE?? My grandmother, Mary [Sivage] >Chapman (88 years old, living) has tried for years to track her father's >line. We've been "frozen" at John SIVAGE (sometimes Sevage or Savage) who >md. Anna MORSE (Morris, Moss) bef. 1826. John SIVAGE was born ca. 1794, was >said to have served in the War of 1812, and died Christmas Day, Dec. 25, >1837. All the children of John and Anna were born "near Elizabeth City" NorthCarolina, >as follows: >Isaiah R. SIVAGE b. 1826 md. 1) Achsah HODSON 2) Sarah HADLEY 3) Eunice >LINDLEY (ended up in Hendricks Co., IN); >Lauretta SIVAGE b. ca. 1828 md. Alexander ARCHER (ended up in Hendricks Co., >IN); >Armstead SIVAGE b. ca. 1830 (my line) md. 1) Keziah CHAPMAN in NC 2) Mary >Ellen HENSON in IL (ended up in IN); >John SIVAGE b. ca. 1832 md. Lucinda Paine Hadley > >Any information would be greatly appreciated. > >Tracy Jones >http://homepages.go.com/~thenightflyer/genealogy.html Genealogy & Links > >

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Would like to find the parents of Jesse Middleton PAYNE? b. 24 Jul 1858 believe to be Macon, GA d. 9 Apr 1950 in Phenix City, AL m. 30 Sept 1877 to Martha Mozelle FORSYTHE (b. 11 Aug 1858 in AL, d. 15 Jan 1914 in AL) m. 2nd 30 Nov 1920 to Ruth KENT Also, would like to know about the descendants of their children: Jesse Middleton PAYNE, Jr. b. 31 Jul 1878 in Phenix City, AL d. 12 Nov 1951 in Phenix City, AL m. 22 May 1900 to Ina Mae SUMMERSGILL Leonard PAYNE b. 6 Apr 1880 in Phenix City, AL d. 3 Jan 1943 in Montgomery, AL m. Lois ??? Ila PAYNE b. 6 Sep 1885 in Phenix City, AL d. 25 May 1979 in Phoenix, AZ m. 13 Jun 1905 to Lathan Earl GARRISON in Muscogee Co, GA (?) Heyward Lindsay PAYNE b. 26 Jun 1888 in Phenix City, AL d. 23 Jun 1953 in Chattanooga, TN Hazel PAYNE b. 24 Dec 1890 in Phenix City, AL d. 26 Dec 1986 in Louisville, KY m. James W. PHILLIPS Paul PAYNE b. 27 Apr 1893 in Phenix City, AL d. 30 Jun 1958 Mabel Mozelle PAYNE b. 22 Apr 1899 in Phenix City, AL d. 10 Oct 1991 in Lebanon, KY m. 15 Mar 1922 to James Caldwell GRUNDY, Sr. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Lew Lewis_Garrison@compuserve.com