I have written before about John Payne. I have more information that someone might recognize. He had a daughter that he named America Payne. I found another America Payne born in the late 1700's that she may have been named after. Does anyone recognize this family? Sidney Dyess Check out my family page <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/sidneyodyess">My Back in Time Page</A>

Hello, I have tried the site http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm and you have to be a member. It will not work. Sherry Davis-Ellis > > Subject: Free military databases at Ancestry.com > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:26:45 -0500 > From: "Kathleen Bowen" <katbowen@earthlink.net> > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Lists! > > FYI - > > "In honor of those who served, Ancestry.com is offering its collection of > military databases free this weekend. Search the military collection at: > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm > Best of luck to you as you search out the veterans in your family history! > We > salute all who have served this country!" > > Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida > Genealogy: It's Relative!! > katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen > >

I tried several, dealing with late 19th/early 20th century databases, such as the WWI Civilian Draft Registrations and the Vietnam Casualty Index; these two at least gave me full details. Then just for fun I tried a couple of the Revolutionary War databases, but only for an indication of whether my surnames had any hits. I went no further. I've just tried the Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, and got the same message as you, Ted. Not a very good way of advertising, if you ask me! PSW Ted Pack wrote: > > I clicked on the link. > I selected "Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots", one of the > data bases. > I entered "Payne" in the search engine. > I got 22 hits. > When I clicked on "View Search Results" I got the message > "The Database you requested is available only to members." > > So, until you try to see anything, it looks open; at least the DB on > Revolutionary War graves. > > Peter Wyant, which data base did you use, just out of curiosity?

I clicked on the link. I selected "Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots", one of the data bases. I entered "Payne" in the search engine. I got 22 hits. When I clicked on "View Search Results" I got the message "The Database you requested is available only to members." So, until you try to see anything, it looks open; at least the DB on Revolutionary War graves. Peter Wyant, which data base did you use, just out of curiosity?

I tried and tho' it didn't have what I was looking for it is open. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Davis-Ellis <bluefairies@uswest.net> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 12:05 PM Subject: Re: PAYNE-D Digest V99 #245 > Hello, > I have tried the site > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm > and you have to be a member. It will not work. > Sherry Davis-Ellis > > > > Subject: Free military databases at Ancestry.com > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:26:45 -0500 > > From: "Kathleen Bowen" <katbowen@earthlink.net> > > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Hi Lists! > > > > FYI - > > > > "In honor of those who served, Ancestry.com is offering its collection of > > military databases free this weekend. Search the military collection at: > > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm > > Best of luck to you as you search out the veterans in your family history! > > We > > salute all who have served this country!" > > > > Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida > > Genealogy: It's Relative!! > > katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen > > > > >

I've just now tried it again, and it still works fine for me as it did a couple of times over the weekend. It's FREE until Wed, 17 Nov. Peter Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Sherry Davis-Ellis wrote: > > Hello, > I have tried the site > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm > and you have to be a member. It will not work. > Sherry Davis-Ellis > > > > Subject: Free military databases at Ancestry.com > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:26:45 -0500 > > From: "Kathleen Bowen" <katbowen@earthlink.net> > > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Hi Lists! > > > > FYI - > > > > "In honor of those who served, Ancestry.com is offering its collection of > > military databases free this weekend. Search the military collection at: > > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm > > Best of luck to you as you search out the veterans in your family history! > > We > > salute all who have served this country!" > > > > Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida > > Genealogy: It's Relative!! > > katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen > > > >

INFORMATIVE AND INTERESTING...BASIC AND ENJOYABLE: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/easylife/ Nola in WA Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com

I would like to thank all of you who told me about Emmett vaughn's website. It has a wealth of information. Thanks again, John Watt

There is a book about Joseph and Phoebe Payne on this URL that you can download. http://w3.one.net/~evaughan/ From: Rayma <kiwis@olypen.com> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Joseph Payne Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:47:43 -0800 I am fairly new to the list, and have been monitoring for a couple weeks hoping to see something on the line I am researching. However, I have not seen anything come across. Does anyone out there have anything on the line of "Old" Jospeh Payne and Phoebe (maybe Offill?). I am descended from this line and am hoping to find some new information. I look forward to any and all of you. Thank you, John Watt kiwis@olypen.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

>From: "Kathleen Bowen" <katbowen@earthlink.net> >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Free military databases at Ancestry.com >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:26:45 -0500 > >Hi Lists! > >FYI - > >"In honor of those who served, Ancestry.com is offering its collection of >military databases free this weekend. Search the military collection at: >http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm >Best of luck to you as you search out the veterans in your family history! >We >salute all who have served this country!" > >Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida >Genealogy: It's Relative!! >katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

--WebTV-Mail-6033-5889 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi, Martha... I am sending your request on to the lists I am subscribed to. I have not gotten very far on our PAYNE line and am hoping for a breakthrough one day as you are. Probably people are weary of hearing me say, where did our William M. PAYNE m. Judy A. BELCHER. come from, who were his parents....help....He and Judy were m. 1830 Tazewell, VA and resided in what is now McDowell Co., WVA. LISTERS: SEE MARTHA'S REQUEST BELOW. Nola Payne in WA Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com --WebTV-Mail-6033-5889 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.121) by storefull-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id C5DE9FD; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:07:06 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: payne9@webtv.net Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A7E52 for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (user-38lcgaj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.65.83]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08413 for <PAYNE9@webtv.net>; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 21:07:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19991112200854.0069d824@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: majar@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:08:54 -0600 To: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) From: "Martha J. Ritchie" <majar@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: PAYNE, Joseph & Phoebe In-Reply-To: <12777-382CBA74-10801@storefull-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm looking for a Jennievieve or Jennie Payne that married Martin Knott at Payneville, Kentucky. She is my great grandmother and my mother is named after her. Can you help me? Martha Ritchie At 05:10 PM 11/12/99 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, John..... >Do you have location, dates, anything that would give a clue in case >someone may have info on him in our side files? Need some clues. >Nola Payne in WA > > >Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, >COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, >EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, >WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) >Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, >NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, >mompayne2@hotmail.com > > --WebTV-Mail-6033-5889--

Mariah A. PAYNE b. 1837 Vigo Co.,IN d/o Alvah PAYNE b. 1795 MA and Sarah SEARING b. 1804 NY m. Hyram NEAL child: Mary Ann NEAL b. IN More of Mariah's siblings: George A. PAINE b. 4 Nov. 1829 IN d. 2 March 1915 Terre Haute, IN m. Clarissa P. MILLS children: Henry A., Edward, Lucinda B. Lucia PAYNE b. ? M. James W. HUIDS, 4 June 1840 Vigo Co. Calvin b. 1835, Cortland b.1841 and Marvin b. 1830 IN

Hi, John..... Do you have location, dates, anything that would give a clue in case someone may have info on him in our side files? Need some clues. Nola Payne in WA Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com

I am fairly new to the list, and have been monitoring for a couple weeks hoping to see something on the line I am researching. However, I have not seen anything come across. Does anyone out there have anything on the line of "Old" Jospeh Payne and Phoebe (maybe Offill?). I am descended from this line and am hoping to find some new information. I look forward to any and all of you. Thank you, John Watt kiwis@olypen.com

I am looking for information on John Payne. John married Susan Eaton in Williamson Co., TN and had several children. He later married Susan Parrish. They are listed in the 1850 census in Dyer Co., TN. John died in 1855. I have just received a copy of his will, but I am searching for his parents and his marriage date to Susan Parrish. I have the information on his children. Thanks. ********************************************************** My family web page! <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/sidneyodyess">Back In Time</A> Sidney O. Dyess **********************************************************

Hello, I am new to the list. Searching for information about Dale L. (Dell) Payne from Bradshaw, McDowell Co. WV. Dale/Dell Payne m. (1)Sarah Etta Riffe in 1889. Dale and Sarah had twelve children, two died young. Dale a son of William Payne and Jane Varney. Jane Varney a dtr. of Henry Varney and Jane Yantis. Sarah Etta Riffe a dtr. of Booker Riffe and Lucy McPeek. Dale Payne married twice after Sarah Etta Riffe died. Any info appreciated, have des. data to share. Thanks, Carol Cantrell

Good morning, Gordon.... That is interesting. I never thought about PAYNES coming from Ireland. There is so much to learn in genealogy and all very interesting and never know where the leads and info make take a person. Yes, logging and Port Townsend do go together. I am in Wenatchee, WA and are you in WA also. My husband's people were in VA-WVA.... William M. PAYNE m. Judy A. BELCHER 1830 Tazewell, VA and apparently resided in McDowell Co., WVA (VA at the time since before WVA was formed). And that is all we know. His son, Flavius Josephus PAYNE migrated to Grundy Co., Spickard, MO where he married (2) Harriet DEAN and their son Lewis Martin PAYNE m. Etha Mae ANDERSON (MO), and their son Roy Kenneth PAYNE m. Seraph Leola DYER of East Wenatchee, Douglas Co., WA in King Co, WA. and their son Sheridan Lewis PAYNE (Chick) B. 7 Dec. 1933 Wenatchee, WA m. me Nola Lois RANKIN (B 6 June 1935 Tacoma Pierce Co, WA) of Peshastin, Chelan Co., WA at Couer d'Alene, Kootenai Co., Idaho 25 April 1959. We have one daugter, Sharilyn Louise PAYNE, 6 March 1970; four sons: Sheridan Lewis PAYNE II (Lewie) 22 April 1963; Stanley Lamar PAYNE (Stan) May 22, 1966 m. Donna Leigh Tomasek (B. 13 May 1975) m. 1993 May 13...one son James Roy Hanley PAYNE (Jimmy) 4 Jan 1995; Steven Leroy PAYNE 4 May 1968; Shawn Lee PAYNE 22 March 1974 Thanks for your message, Gordon. Now you know of another line of PAYNES. Hopefully someone out there will connect with us. Best to you and yours, Nola Payne in WA Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com

Hi Lists! FYI - "In honor of those who served, Ancestry.com is offering its collection of military databases free this weekend. Search the military collection at: http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/militaryDBs.htm Best of luck to you as you search out the veterans in your family history! We salute all who have served this country!" Kathleen in Ridge Manor, Florida Genealogy: It's Relative!! katbowen@earthlink.net or kbowen@hotmail.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/o/w/Kathleen-E-Bowen

In Belgium and the Netherlands you can also find the the name PIEN, even VANDEPIENE. Maybe the name Pien in Germany is coming from the name of the river PEENE near PEENEMüNDE. The original name off the family in France is DE PIENNES. This family is related with the family "de Saint-Omer". Guilliaume de Saint-Omer is the lord off Piennes and the ancestor off the family Peene in Belgium, the Netherlands and Great-Brittain. I can't prove that Huges de PAYEN(de PAYNE) and Godfrey de Saint-Omer are from the same family. Between the 11th and the 16th century we find a lot off different spellings off the name in Flanders (de piennes, peene, pene, vanpeene, dupeene, vandepeene, pain, payne, pein, pine, pain). In the area off Ypres the prononiciation off "PEENE" is "Piènne". I pronounce the "EE" like in the french word "Thé" (I don't think there's an English word that gives the same prononciation, every word with "EE" in English I know is pronounced "IE". The name PEENE was in the 12th century a global name for 'river'. That's the reason why you find the name in Germany, France, Norway. Maybe there was also a river Peene in Kent (UK) because we find there also the village PEENE near Folkestone. More information (in Flemisch and English) http://come.to/peene --- Werner Peene Tempelierstraat 15 B-8470 GISTEL http://come.to/peene

     RIFFE, WA.....DROWNED    Subject: FLOYD & ARMEDIA RIFFE WV TO WA IN 1893.COMMUNITY OF RIFFE BORN WASHINGTON, The Evergreen State Magazine, Vol Two, Number Six May/June 1986,pp.100,105,+, Article, THE TOWN THAT DROWNED By Stephen Maher (a freelance writer from Portland, Oregon. His family owns a summer place near Riffe Lake.) Pictured is Floyd and wife Armedia Riffe(who) founded the remote town named for them in 1893. Subtitle: The rippling waters of Riffe Lake can't cover the memories of an "Appalachian" town. Photo courtesy of Glen Schwartz. Featured under OUR TOWNS. (This about 400-500 word article and I will type it in and send it in segments if anyone is interested. I find this article copied in some of my files and have subscribed to the Riffe-L specifically for this purpose.) Nola Payne in WA ---Email Message from Larry Riffey, Texas states that there is a book written by Fred J. Riffe, Box 504324, Marathon, Florida 33050 titled REIFF TO RIFFE FAMILY IN AMERICA, 1995, which can be purchased directly from Fred....800+ pp, hard cver and, Larry says, "well worth your bucks." Larry found this Floyd Lewis Riffey in the book, page 213,7-77(6-24) stating he was born 29 Feb. 1860 North Springs, McDowellCo., WVA. Died 12 Jun 1943 Nesika, Washington. Mrried Armedia Blankenship 3 March 1881, Born 16 Nov 1855 Virginia: d/o Conley Blankenship.-- Following is the first apporx. half of the article. The remainder will be forhcoming . QUOTE....... IN THE LOW foothills of the Cascades, situated behind the Northwest's tallest dam, lie the greenish-blue waters of Riffe Lake. Nearby hills, with their checkerboard pattern of farms, keep the lake company, as does Mt. St. Helens, 25 miles to the southeast. Like other reservoirs, Riffe Lake is a haven for people who enjoy fishing, wterskiing, sailing and camping. But Riffe Lake is more than just a recreational hot spot. It is a lake with a story beneath its waters. When workers plugged the dam back in 1968, the rising waters of the Cowlitz River flooded the last remains of the town of Riffe and left only a ripple of memories behind. It all began in the fall of l893, when a party of more than 60 Appalachian hllbillies led by Floyd Riffe, A Southern Baptist minister, traveled eight days in a boxcar from West Virginia to Chehalis. A month later part of the group forged 40 miles east with horse and wagon to the old Bodiford homestead on the Cowlitz. There, Floyd Riffe purchased 160 acres from the widowed Mrs. Bodiford, and the community of Riffe was born. The early settlers had left the Appalachian Mountains because the water there was bad and the ground so rocky that dirt had ro be carried in to cover hills of corn. Out west in the Cascade foothills they found the water clear and clean and the earth rich. Due to its isolation, Riffe's early settleers tended to be self-reliant and jacks-of-all-trades. Floyd Riffe was no excepton, He was a farmer, loggeer, minister, doctor (though unlicensed) and the leader of the community. He also established the first Riffe Post Office in his home and served as its postmaster until 1904. A grandson, Glen Schwartz of Mossyrock, remembers his grandfather's days as the area's only medical practitioner. "Anybody who got sick called Granddad Riffe. He had a black satchel and a tiny white pill that he used as a painkiller. He'd get on horseback and go see the person," Schwartz says. During the early part of the century and for the most part untiil the 1960s, Riffe was isolated from nearby towns because of the clannish nature of its people. They had transplanted themselves to another part of the world, but little else changed in their lives. They played their music. They hunted and raised crops. They spoke with the accents and slang of their Appalachian homeland. They interrmarried, and had large families. "Eveeryone married his neighbor because no one had transportation," says Marjorie Aldrich of Mossyrock, a Lewis County historian. "And in those days there were no birth control pills." ---TO BE CONTINUED-- Surnames: PAYNE,DYER,DEAN,BELCHER,WISER, COTTON;RANKIN,NEFF,LOPER,DEWITT, WOLFE,BUSER,CLOMAN,CULBERT, EDMUNDSON,RIDLEY,DAY,CONGER, POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE, WEBBER,SMALLEY,STROUT, HENDERSON, NORTON,MADDISON,(PTL) Alternate Email Addresses: NLPfromWA@webtv.net, NLP-COLONIES2WA@webtv.net, mompayne2@hotmail.com