William Collet PAYNE was born 9 Jan 1805 in Ohio and believed to be the son of Thomas and Margaret PAYNE. His siblings were Susannah born 1801/02 who married Morgan LEWIS and died in Missouri; Morris P. born 1810/11 who married Eleanor "Nellie" LEWIS; Sarah born 1816/17 who married Charles W. RAY; Lewis born 1818 who married Tabitha Dorcas PETTY and later Priscilla C. SLAUGHTER; Rachel born about 1820 who married William Harrison MAYNARD; Morgan born 27 June 1823 who married Mahalia Frances FEAR; Celia born 1826 who married Benjamin WOODRING; and Mariah born 10 Sep 1827. William C. PAYNE above married Celia LEWIS, daughter of David LEWIS and Mary Elizabeth HAWKINS 27 Dec 1827 in Franklin County, Indiana. He died 10 Sep 1875 in Grant County, Indiana, and she died 16 May 1870. They were both buried in Fankboner Cemetery in Grant County. Their children were 1) Morgan L. born 29 Dec 1828 and died 13 Jun 1855; 2) Thomas L. born 19 Nov 1829 and died in the Civil War; 3) James Green born 14 Aug 1831 in Franklin County, IN, and died 22 Nov 1877 in Grant County, IN. He married Louisa J. OSBORN. 4) George Washington "Jack" born 20 Apr 1833 and died 18 Mar 1867 and married Margretha HENDERSON 3 May 1853; 5) Morris born 29 Jun 1835 6); David Lewis born 30 Dec 1836 and died 27 Nov 1884 in Wellington, Kansas; 7) John D.F. born 18 Apr 1838 who married Phebe WALKER; 8) Margaret Emily born 9 Mar 1840 who married William A. CHRISTIAN; 9) Wesley E. born 15 Feb 1842, died 5 Jun 1872, and married Mary Dulcena HOLLIS; 10) Allen Wiley born 13 Jun 1845, died 14 Jan 1898, and married Bathsheba NOSE 20 Dec 1869; 11) William L. born 10 Jun 1847 and died 6 Dec 1869; 12) Elizabeth Jane "Jennie" born 14 Aug 1850, died 27 Jan 1928 in Kansas, and married Milton BREWER 23 Mar 1871. If you have any of these people in your records I would like to share information. Gordon Jorgensen GJorgen111@AOL.COM

Have a Sally/Sarah PAYNE, born either November 26, 1840, (per grandma's info) or December 26 (as stated on her death certificate.) Grandma said she was from (West) Virginia, but thanks to a very kind David Payne for giving me some info, I believe she was born in Tennessee. she married Sam TUCKER September 29, in 1863 in Grundy County, TN. Had daughter Mariah TUCKER in 1874 in Tracy City, TN. Sarah/Sally died on August 17, 1924, in Eldorado, IL. she is buried in Wolf Creek Cemetery. The informant on the death certificate was George Parks. I understand from David, that Mariah had a sibling by the name of James TUCKER. David was also kind enough to send me the direct ancestor line of Sally/Sarah, so I also now know that Sarah's parents were Susan KEY and George Washington PAYNE! More than happy to share info if anyone is interested... Sally in Michigan

Payne, A. M. 1st Missouri Brigade Payne, D. M. * CONFEDERATE TROOPS AT THE BATTLE OF PEA RIDGE Payne, J. J. Company K, 2nd Arkansas Mtd. Rifles Payne, J. W., Private Company B, 6th Texas Cavalry Payne, Martin Watie Payne(Pain), N. H., Surgeon Companies F & S, 6th Texas Cavalry http://www.nps.gov/peri/ctroopweb.html

OOPS Buddy, I forgot to send the outline in previous mail so it is below and you can see it in my URL too. Descendants of Yanakee (Anica) Ayers 1 Yanakee (Anica) AYERS b: 1742 in Pittsylvania Co. Va d: 1812 in Franklin Co GA? Alias: Yanaka Fact 1: Member of Chauga Baptist Church, Oconee Co. SC Fact 2: Ancestor of Lil Herrin <LHH111621@aol.com> Fact 3: ancestor of Terry Jackson< jacksont@nacell.net> Kinship: "Kimberly Payne" <kimp@triton.net> .. +Thomas (Trader*) PAYNE, Sr., * b: Oct 21, 1721 in Middlesex, VA? m: Abt. 1760 d: Abt. 1811 in Pendleton Dist. SC Father: William PAYNE, II, * Mother: Elizabeth POINDEXTER, * Alias: Peign Fact 1: * Some says Trader and this Thomas are not the same person. Kinship 1: Carol Shrader <cshrader@exis.net> Kinship 2: "Kimberly Payne" <kimp@triton.net> Kinship 3: Ancestor of Lil Herrin <LHH111621@aol.com> Kinship 4: ancestor of Terry Jackson< jacksont@nacell.net> . 2 Thomas G. PAYNE, Jnr. b: Abt. 1761 d: Bef. Jun 01, 1787 in Franklin Co Georgia Fact 1: never married . 2 Nathaniel PAYNE b: 1763 in VA d: Abt. 1821 in Franklin Co. TN ..... +Millie PAYNE . 2 Moses PAYNE b: 1764 d: Aft. 1788 ..... +Jane (JENNIE) . *2nd Wife of Moses PAYNE: ..... +Mary Polly UNKNOWN . 2 Champness S. PAYNE b: Abt. 1765 d: Feb 10, 1805 in Franklin Co Georgia ..... +Mary (Polly) PAYNE b: 1769 d: 1821 Father: John PAYNE, Sr. Mother: MARY . 2 Poindexter PAYNE b: Abt. 1767 d: 1829 in Franklin Co TN Fact 2: Ancestor of Lil Herrin <LHH111621@aol.com> Kinship: "Kimberly Payne" <kimp@triton.net> ..... +Ann (Annie) Bell HILL m: Abt. 1800 in GA Father: Perry HILL Mother: SARAH Fact 2: Ancestor of Lil Herrin <LHH111621@aol.com> Kinship: "Kimberly Payne" <kimp@triton.net> . 2 Shrewsbury PAYNE b: 1769 d: Bef. Jun 04, 1821 in Bedford Co. TN Fact 1: Named for Ruel Shrewsberry ..... +Sarah/Sary Sally OREGON . 2 Ruth (Ruty) PAYNE b: 1773 d: Aft. 1850 in Bedford Co. TN ..... +William O. WHITNEY . 2 Zebediah PAYNE b: 1782 d: Oct 06, 1827 in Bedford Co. TN ..... +Elizabeth (Betsy) PAINE b: Abt. 1791 . 2 Cleveland PAYNE b: 1783 d: May 02, 1808 in Franklin Co Georgia Fact 1: ancestor of Terry Jackson< jacksont@nacell.net> ..... +ELIZABETH b: Abt. 1790 in SC m: Abt. 1804 d: in Randolph Co. AL Fact 1: ancestor of Terry Jackson< jacksont@nacell.net> Buddy, I think we corresponded before??? I think this Moses Payne was in VA to NC then Franklin Co. GA. I don't know anything else about him though. His father Thomas Payne SR. was in them places I understand. BTW, Ihave some Pritchett's in Franklin Co. GA in my gedcom and you can view them in myu WorldConnect URL below. From: Darrell Pritchett <dpritchett@northstate.net> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas in Wilkes County NC Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:54:49 -0500 List The discussion about Moses Payne interested me because I descend from that line. Has anyone heard mention that Moses Payne went to NC from Virginia,on to Franklin Co GA and then moved back to NC??? I am also interested in the New River. Several of my Hartman ancestors had relatives or were connected to New River. The Question is why was New River so popular because it seems there was a lot of wild country between New River and Winston Salem NC at that time??? Buddy Pritchett Thanks, David S. Payne Check out my new genealogy pages and view my Gedcom at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp (Username: user_n Password: user90) Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, CORBIN, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McPHERSON, NEWTON, PARKER, PATTERSON, PAYNE, REDWINE, REID, SWANN, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Buddy, I think we corresponded before??? I think this Moses Payne was in VA to NC then Franklin Co. GA. I don't know anything else about him though. His father Thomas Payne SR. was in them places I understand. BTW, Ihave some Pritchett's in Franklin Co. GA in my gedcom and you can view them in myu WorldConnect URL below. From: Darrell Pritchett <dpritchett@northstate.net> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas in Wilkes County NC Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:54:49 -0500 List The discussion about Moses Payne interested me because I descend from that line. Has anyone heard mention that Moses Payne went to NC from Virginia,on to Franklin Co GA and then moved back to NC??? I am also interested in the New River. Several of my Hartman ancestors had relatives or were connected to New River. The Question is why was New River so popular because it seems there was a lot of wild country between New River and Winston Salem NC at that time??? Buddy Pritchett Thanks, David S. Payne Check out my new genealogy pages and view my Gedcom at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp (Username: user_n Password: user90) Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, CORBIN, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McPHERSON, NEWTON, PARKER, PATTERSON, PAYNE, REDWINE, REID, SWANN, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

List The discussion about Moses Payne interested me because I descend from that line. Has anyone heard mention that Moses Payne went to NC from Virginia,on to Franklin Co GA and then moved back to NC??? I am also interested in the New River. Several of my Hartman ancestors had relatives or were connected to New River. The Question is why was New River so popular because it seems there was a lot of wild country between New River and Winston Salem NC at that time??? Buddy Pritchett

Hey Bob, If you really look at what ya got here, your first entries site grants to land on Obids Creek in Wilkes Co. NC to Thomas Paine and low and behold, there is Moses Ayers (husband of Abigale). In your last entry, notice that here again is Thomas Payne (of Franklin County GA) selling land on Obids Creek!!! Now if this isn't VERY strong evidence that our Thomas Payne is the father of Abigale, then I really must be missing something here. Let's sum this up. 1) Thomas Payne m. Yanaka Ayers in same County of VA at the same time as Moses Ayers. 2) Moses Ayers is the brother of Yanaka. 3) Moses Ayers marries Abigale Payne 4) Moses Ayers in Wilkes County NC in 1778---see land grant below 5) Moses Ayers and Abigale in Franklin County, GA in early 1780s. 6) Land Grants for a Thomas and a William Payne along Tugaloo River issued from South Carolina in the early 1780s. Bet if we looked, we would find Moses Ayers got land also. 7) Several Cherokee Indian Villages along the Tugaloo and Broad Rivers within 20 mile radius of Payne Creek. Regards, Barb McCreary Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hollow/9401/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <ThatBeBob@aol.com> To: David Payne <otime@hotmail.com>; <john.wilmot@mindspring.com>; <shpxlcp@home.com>; <stnpride@linkline.com>; <Payne-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 8:41 PM Subject: Thomas in Wilkes County, NC http://www.ls.net/~newriver/ashedeed.htm Abstracts of Upper New River Valley Land Grants >From Wilkes County Records 1778 - 1783 - Wilkes County Deed Book 1 The land situation was quite different south of 36ø30' than in Virginia. North Carolina was a proprietary colony, with the Earl of Granville holding title to much of the land. Residents of the Old North State before the Revolution paid a quit rent to the Earl for some years then perhaps could acquire title to the land they lived on. In 1777 the North Carolina legislature passed a confiscation act which took the Earl of Granville's holdings and transferred title to the State. The state in turn issued land grants to its citizens for a nominal fee, for which the inhabitants or land speculators could acquire the land fee simple. The problem of claim jumping was not as bad as it was in Virginia for reasons which are not entirely clear. One reason may be the fees required to for land grants made the land more affordable than in Virginia. Grant in what is now Ashe County, North Carolina GENERAL AREA GRANT # NAME Obids Creek 711 Thomas Paine Obids Creek 713 Thomas Paine Peak Creek 907 Thomas Paine Remember these deed abstracts: Page 421. Dec. 23, 1778 from Thomas Payne of Wilks County, North Carolina, to Michael Ozbrooks of Pittsylvania County, for 150 L, about 150 acres in H, and bounded on the south by Col. John Lewis, on the west by Moses Ayres, on the south by Fleming Bates, and on the east by John Lewis jr. Signed: Thomas (T his mark) Payne Wit: John Lewis Jr, Thomas Merriwether Jr., Richard (R his mark) Smith Rec Mar 16, 1780. Deed Book D - Wilkes County, NC 116 - 15 Dec 1796 . . Between Thomas Payne, Franklin County, Georgia and David Hickerson . . . 100 lbs 200 ac Obeds Creek, branch New River . . . to top of mtn . . . William Reynolds, John Dobson Thomas (X) Payne 116 - 15 Dec 1796 . . Between Thomas Payne, Franklin County, Georgia and David Hickerson . . . 150 lbs 290 ac Obeds Creek, branch New River . . . to top of mtn . . . William Reynolds, John Dobson Thomas (X) Payne

INMATES OF THE TENNESSEE STATE PENITENTIARY 1831 - 1850 : http://www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/inmate2.htm LAST NAME FIRST NAME CRIME COUNTY AGE Payne Guilford grand larceny Marshall 27 Brenda Darlene Gaines- Monroe Swamp Creek Garden -Oregon http://www.pioneer.net/~brendad/ Mom's side - Smith, Payne, Ward, Nolen, Killcreece, McDaniel, Lamb Dad's side - Gaines, Malcome, Holderby, Lewis, Harvey. Felix, Mays

This site does list the name JOHN PAYNE.... http://www.swcp.com/~dhickman/wvcmf/wvcmf.html and this is a long list of mining disasters in W.V., some with the victims' names http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvcoal/disaster.html Hope this helps with the Family Research, Janet & The PaynePack successwoods@thegrid.net

At 04:22 AM 12/15/99 -0800, you wrote: >PAYNE-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 265 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Hollingshead/Payne [Ryakhour@aol.com] > #2 Fwd: PAYNE-L: [GTNEL@aol.com] > #3 TIME FRAME [PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY)] > #4 Name: [LEWIS EBY <blmarble@bright.net>] > #5 Re: Name: [GTNEL@aol.com] > #6 William Payne in Abbeville Co. SC ["David Payne" <otime@hotmail.com>] > #7 Trying to verify PAYNE info [Troy Payne <paynet@GTE.NET>] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from PAYNE-D, send a message to > > PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:37:40 EST >From: Ryakhour@aol.com >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <0.50cb7f34.2587cc54@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Hollingshead/Payne >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, David: > >Just wanted to take a minute to clarify something. Harriett and Thomas were >the only two offspring of ATW's and Elizabeth Murry. Jane Payne is actually >the daughter of ATW and Elizabeth Houston. After ATW died and Elizabeth >Houston remarried, she promptly had Jane's name changed to that of her newest >husband. >I'll have to dig through my records to recall what exactly that name was, but >if it is of importance to someone on the list, I'll promptly do that. > >Robin > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:41:57 EST >From: GTNEL@aol.com >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <0.d44193cc.2587db65@aol.com> >Subject: Fwd: PAYNE-L: >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >--part1_0.d44193cc.2587db65_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Joanie >This message came only to me. I think you intended it for the list so am >forwarding it on. Hope someone has info for you. >Anne > >--part1_0.d44193cc.2587db65_boundary >Content-Type: message/rfc822 >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: <azscouter@email.msn.com> >Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) > by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:05:13 > -0500 >Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com > [207.46.181.26]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 > Dec 1999 10:04:48 -0500 >Received: from default - 63.11.142.11 by email.msn.com with Microsoft > SMTPSVC; > Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:04:43 -0800 >Message-ID: <001101bf4643$be1a21c0$0b8e0b3f@default> >From: "azscouter" <azscouter@email.msn.com> >To: <GTNEL@aol.com> >References: <0.f173281b.25850ae4@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Re:PAYNE-L: Fw: Twas The Day Before Yesterday; >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:58:53 -0700 >Organization: Microsoft Corporation >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > >HI all, >I am trying to get information on my grandfather that was killed in the >biggest cave in in West Virginia. My father was two or three and doesn't >remember much about him as does his sister's and brother. I don't know much >about him and the things I do know I haven't been able to trace back to him. >He married Monnie Madeline Goldsmith but that is all I know I do know that >his name was John William Payne. If you can help me I would be forever >greatful. Thanks so much, Joanie > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <GTNEL@aol.com> >To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 7:27 AM >Subject: Re:PAYNE-L: Fw: Twas The Day Before Yesterday; > > >> This is a suggestion that I am going to make to all the lists to which I >> subscribe. >> I hope it is a good one and will be received in the spirit in which it is >> sent! :) >> >> In the interest of saving time AND because there are those out there bent >on >> sending us viruses to destroy our hard and soft ware, please include the >name >> of the List somewhere in the subject line, even when it is something sent >to >> give us a thought or a smile. I very rarely open an e-mail unless I >> recognize the sender or it has the name of the list in the subject line. >I >> made an exception on this referenced message because it sounded like it >was >> from a fellow searcher! But, as the witching hour for the Y2K approaches, >I >> am getting less and less inclined to do so. Please don't let us scanners >> miss an important message or perhaps a link you are seeking. Take time to >> add your surname to the subject line. >> Thanks for reading and happy hunting! >> Anne Nelson >> Tulsa >> > > > > >--part1_0.d44193cc.2587db65_boundary-- > >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:39:22 -0800 (PST) >From: PAYNE9@webtv.net (PAYNE FAMILY) >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <11561-38568EDA-12828@storefull-158.iap.bryant.webtv.net> >Subject: TIME FRAME >Content-Disposition: Inline >Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by bl-14.rootsweb.com id EAA26747 > >Hi, Joanie.. >Just for anyone needing an approximate date for research into this, when >was your Dad two or three years old? Nola > > > >RE: >   Message From: GTNEL@aol.com >Date: Tue, Dec 14, 1999, 12:41pm (PST+3) >To: PAYNE-L > >Hi Joanie >This message came only to me. I think you intended it for the list so am >forwarding it on. Hope someone has info for you. Anne > > >HI all, > >I am trying to get information on my > >grandfather that was killed in the biggest cave in in West Virginia. > >My father was two or three and doesn't remember much about him as does >his sister's and brother. I don't know much about him and the things I >do know I haven't been able to trace back to him. > >He married >Monnie Madeline Goldsmith but that is all I know I do know that his name >was > >John William Payne. If you can help me I would be forever greatful. > >Thanks so much, Joanie > >______________________________X-Message: #4 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:41:10 -0500 (EST) >From: LEWIS EBY <blmarble@bright.net> >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <199912141841.NAA24475@sparticus.bright.net> >Subject: Name: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Question????? How do you reconize a name? 99.9 of the names > I recieve I do not know , my name always >goes out > at the top of my e-mail???????? > Lewis Eby > >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:11:42 EST >From: GTNEL@aol.com >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <0.6e5f8699.258836be@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Name: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Lewis-- >I don't think any of us can begin to recognize the names of everyone who >writes to the list. If, however, PAYNE is written as a part of the subject >line, then we will know that the message is about searching for ancestors >named Payne. > >Actually, using a format something like "William PAYNE b1812 Ga>TX" is >helpful. Those whose ancestor was born in a completely different time frame >or different area wouldn't have to spend a lot of time reading the message. >Anne > >______________________________X-Message: #6 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:56:35 PST >From: "David Payne" <otime@hotmail.com> >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <19991215015635.88034.qmail@hotmail.com> >Subject: William Payne in Abbeville Co. SC >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Who is this William Payne in the 1820 Abbeville Co. SC census? > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ > >Thanks, David S. Payne >Check out my new genealogy pages and view my Gedcom at: >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime >http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp (Username: user_n Password: >user90) >Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, >CORBIN, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McPHERSON, >NEWTON, PARKER, PATTERSON, PAYNE, REDWINE, REID, SWANN, WEST, WHITMIRE, >WOODALL > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >______________________________X-Message: #7 >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 23:34:24 -0600 >From: Troy Payne <paynet@GTE.NET> >To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <3857285F.5BFA@GTE.NET> >Subject: Trying to verify PAYNE info >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >List, > >When I started researching my husband's tree, I was given some >information from his aunt. I am unsure how much of this info is correct >and am hoping some of you may be able to give me feedback. What I was >given is as follows: > >Forrest Wilbur Payne b 09 28 1912 Parke Co, Indiana > m Luetta Webster 02 09 1925 > d 10 10 1981 Parke Co, Indiana >Parents George Thurman Payne > m Tressia Marie Nowling 10 15 1910 > d 09 23 1951 >Parents George Washington Payne > m Rhuhama Bramlett(Bromlett) 12 21 1876 >Parents Alexander Payne b 03 02 1815 > m Eliza Archer > d abt 09 14 1897 >Parents Thomas Payne b abt 1783 > m Mary Newton 02 18 1807 > d abt 1850 >Parents Thomas Payne b abt 1750 > m Sarah Glendenning abt 1770 > d 01 23 1832 >Parents William Payne b abt 1702 > m Mary Bell 1750 > d 05 03 1770 >Parents George Payne b abt 1661 > m ? White > d 1711 >Parents John Payne b 1615 in England > m Margaret > d 1690 in Virginia > >I can verify some of this information from the Paynes of Virginia >website, but am unsure if the links in between are correct. If anyone >can give me any help or direction it would be greatly appreciated > >Kimberly Payne >Brazil, Indiana >

Ray, I appreciate your help. As I still do not understand how these viruses work, could you clarify for me? If I were going to send you a file of my Payne line, I would write you an E-mail and attach the file to it. You would read my message and decide whether to open the attached file. If I were the recipient of an automatic virus, would it attach to what I send you or would it capture your address and send its own attached file? Are you saying that it would come with a message that you would read to be sure it was from me? This is all so confusing! I know we have to be careful, and I certainly want to be, but I'm just not sure I know how. Anyway, thanks for your help Anne Nelson

In a message dated 12/15/99 6:23:54 AM Central Standard Time, PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << > In the interest of saving time AND because there are those out there bent on > sending us viruses to destroy our hard and soft ware, please include the name > of the List somewhere in the subject line, even when it is something sent to > give us a thought or a smile. I very rarely open an e-mail unless I > recognize the sender or it has the name of the list in the subject line. >> here is something that may be of help. because some viruses are automatic and go from your email address list to other people and then goes out on their list without any of us doing anything, i don't open any file i get, even if someone i know, unless there is something personal written in the email. there thus has to be either a HELLO HOW ARE YOU or THIS IS FROM JOHN PAYNE or such before i will open the attached file and there has to be a signature matching the person who sent it, one way or another. when the HAPPY.EXE virus hit a friend of mine i got an email from him with the happy virus attached as it was automatic and he was not even aware that he had it at the time. i alerted him and he removed just as i deleted it without even looking at it or getting it. so be aware the file containing the virus CAN be from someone you know and trust but not be deliberate so act accordingly. i know this is not the subject of this list but i am just offering some advice to all of you cause you are so generous with your help on the list. ray lewis payne

I sent the wrong address for the Abbeville census in earlier mail for William Payne. Who is this William in the 1820 Abbeville Co. SC Census? http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/0029a.gif Thanks, David S. Payne Check out my new genealogy pages and view my Gedcom at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime http://www.myfamily.com/front_members.asp (Username: user_n Password: user90) Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, CANADY, CORBIN, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McPHERSON, NEWTON, PARKER, PATTERSON, PAYNE, REDWINE, REID, SWANN, WEST, WHITMIRE, WOODALL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I am looking for the parents of Stephen Payne b. N.Y. July 11,1811. He married Sarah Bristol b.circa 1830. They had sons Cyrus,Myron, and Henry all born St. Lawerence Co. N.Y. They also had daughters, Mary, Alta, Alice and Martha or Marcie. I have seen it both ways. Any help would be great. Barbara Hinz bhinz@internetcds.com

List, When I started researching my husband's tree, I was given some information from his aunt. I am unsure how much of this info is correct and am hoping some of you may be able to give me feedback. What I was given is as follows: Forrest Wilbur Payne b 09 28 1912 Parke Co, Indiana m Luetta Webster 02 09 1925 d 10 10 1981 Parke Co, Indiana Parents George Thurman Payne m Tressia Marie Nowling 10 15 1910 d 09 23 1951 Parents George Washington Payne m Rhuhama Bramlett(Bromlett) 12 21 1876 Parents Alexander Payne b 03 02 1815 m Eliza Archer d abt 09 14 1897 Parents Thomas Payne b abt 1783 m Mary Newton 02 18 1807 d abt 1850 Parents Thomas Payne b abt 1750 m Sarah Glendenning abt 1770 d 01 23 1832 Parents William Payne b abt 1702 m Mary Bell 1750 d 05 03 1770 Parents George Payne b abt 1661 m ? White d 1711 Parents John Payne b 1615 in England m Margaret d 1690 in Virginia I can verify some of this information from the Paynes of Virginia website, but am unsure if the links in between are correct. If anyone can give me any help or direction it would be greatly appreciated Kimberly Payne Brazil, Indiana

Lewis-- I don't think any of us can begin to recognize the names of everyone who writes to the list. If, however, PAYNE is written as a part of the subject line, then we will know that the message is about searching for ancestors named Payne. Actually, using a format something like "William PAYNE b1812 Ga>TX" is helpful. Those whose ancestor was born in a completely different time frame or different area wouldn't have to spend a lot of time reading the message. Anne

Question????? How do you reconize a name? 99.9 of the names I recieve I do not know , my name always goes out at the top of my e-mail???????? Lewis Eby

Hi, Joanie.. Just for anyone needing an approximate date for research into this, when was your Dad two or three years old? Nola RE:    Message From: GTNEL@aol.com Date: Tue, Dec 14, 1999, 12:41pm (PST+3) To: PAYNE-L Hi Joanie This message came only to me. I think you intended it for the list so am forwarding it on. Hope someone has info for you. Anne HI all, I am trying to get information on my grandfather that was killed in the biggest cave in in West Virginia. My father was two or three and doesn't remember much about him as does his sister's and brother. I don't know much about him and the things I do know I haven't been able to trace back to him. He married Monnie Madeline Goldsmith but that is all I know I do know that his name was John William Payne. If you can help me I would be forever greatful. Thanks so much, Joanie

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--part1_0.d44193cc.2587db65_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joanie This message came only to me. I think you intended it for the list so am forwarding it on. Hope someone has info for you. Anne --part1_0.d44193cc.2587db65_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <azscouter@email.msn.com> Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:05:13 -0500 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com [207.46.181.26]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v66.4) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:04:48 -0500 Received: from default - 63.11.142.11 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:04:43 -0800 Message-ID: <001101bf4643$be1a21c0$0b8e0b3f@default> From: "azscouter" <azscouter@email.msn.com> To: <GTNEL@aol.com> References: <0.f173281b.25850ae4@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re:PAYNE-L: Fw: Twas The Day Before Yesterday; Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:58:53 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 HI all, I am trying to get information on my grandfather that was killed in the biggest cave in in West Virginia. My father was two or three and doesn't remember much about him as does his sister's and brother. I don't know much about him and the things I do know I haven't been able to trace back to him. He married Monnie Madeline Goldsmith but that is all I know I do know that his name was John William Payne. If you can help me I would be forever greatful. Thanks so much, Joanie ----- Original Message ----- From: <GTNEL@aol.com> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 7:27 AM Subject: Re:PAYNE-L: Fw: Twas The Day Before Yesterday; > This is a suggestion that I am going to make to all the lists to which I > subscribe. > I hope it is a good one and will be received in the spirit in which it is > sent! :) > > In the interest of saving time AND because there are those out there bent on > sending us viruses to destroy our hard and soft ware, please include the name > of the List somewhere in the subject line, even when it is something sent to > give us a thought or a smile. I very rarely open an e-mail unless I > recognize the sender or it has the name of the list in the subject line. I > made an exception on this referenced message because it sounded like it was > from a fellow searcher! But, as the witching hour for the Y2K approaches, I > am getting less and less inclined to do so. Please don't let us scanners > miss an important message or perhaps a link you are seeking. Take time to > add your surname to the subject line. > Thanks for reading and happy hunting! > Anne Nelson > Tulsa > --part1_0.d44193cc.2587db65_boundary--