HI cuzzies, Hoping some our brilliant Payne's can help me out. Are there any records of the listings of POW's captured during the course of the Civil War and how would I obtain them. Thanks, Bev

Hello! I am looking for information on John Marian PAYNE, b. abt 1885, married to Mary Ann VANCE, b. May 1885. They were from Mingo/Logan Counties, West Virginia. Children included the following: Sarah J. b. 1910 Gilbert L. b. 3-1-12 Theordore b. 1914 Leander b. 1917 I have found Mary and her children in the 1920 Mingo Co. census, living with her father, Jackson VANCE, so I am assuming he (John PAYNE) died prior to that. Gilbert L. PAYNE was married to a woman named Wilsonia. I have no other information on her at this time, although I am awaiting her SS card application copy from Baltimore. They had a son, Lanville, who was killed in an explosion in Logan Co., WV in 1988. Do any of these PAYNE family members ring with anyone? I would appreciate any assistance you can offer. Thank you so much!! Karen Keleher

I've just run across the best map site ever! It is a topographical map site and can find an ant hill! Try it: www.topozone.com/ I had a blast looking at all the backwoods places in my family's history! Linda Ball Researching: Anderson * Ball * Kent * Payne Western NC

On Friday January 21, 2000 this obit appeared in the Chillicothe, Ohio Gazzette MAJOR PAYNE Major Payne, 89 of Waverly, Oh formerly of Chillicothe, Oh died 1:05 p.m. Wednesday January 19, 2000, inthe Pike Community Hospital following an extended illness. He was born October 6, 1910, in Ross County, Ohio to the late William and Mary Swayers Payne. He was first married tothe former Nan Lightle who died in 1980, and later marrried the former Ethel Baker Tatman who diedin 1995. Surviving are daughter and son-in-law Jack Dunham,Waverly: son and daughter-in-law, Marvin E. and Ruth Payne, Chillicothe; 12 grandchildren 14 great-grandchildren; six stepchildren; a brother,Howard Payne, Washington Court House, Ohio; and several nieces and nephews. He was predeceased by a daughter Mary Jo Ramey, son William Bane Payne and brothers, Earl,Addie,Everett and Harley Payne. Mr, Payne was a member of the Haysville Community Church . In 1975 he retired from the Chillicothe Veterans Affairs Medical Center where he had been a carpenter for 30 years. Funeral services will be heald 1 p.m. Monday, January 24, 2000, in the Ware Funeral Home with Rev. Mike Blankenship officiating. Burial will follow in the Twin Township Cemetert, Freinds may call at Ware's from 6-8 p.m. Sunday. Lewis G, Eby Jr.( 3rd cousin to Major and son of Nellie Payne Eby) Chillicothe, Ohio

Passing this onto several lists. I heartily support Ms Beck's position and the rootsweb site has good points on citations and establishing archival bases per surname. Bob G. >From: "Virginia Beck" <ginia2@san.rr.com> >To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Fw: Internet Genealogy- What's Good, What's not >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:47:33 -0800 > >Hi all: This guide to research on the net was posted to the Bates County >MO >list. It has some excellent guidelines. I, for one, have been the >recipient of some "family history" that proved to be entirely without any >basis in fact. The least harm was the waste of time -- both mine and that >of others who tried to help me -- trying to prove a falsehood . The most >harm, that the false information is still out there, and being passed along >to others who may not try to check its accuracy. Regards, Virginia. > > > > Internet Genealogy < http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/cook.htm > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

On one of my oyher list it was suggested that since the 2000 census is to be by mail , that we copy our census forms and our decendants will not have to wait 70 years to find out about us . Might be a good ida. Lewis Eby

I am looking for information on Cyrus father family. Cyrus was b.Jan >26,1842 in Ogdensburg, St Lawerence Co. N.Y. Died May 10,1930 in St. >Cloud, Fla. Married Carrie Carter in Burlington, VT. Aug.31,1865. They >divorced and he married Jenny. Carrie and Cyrus had the following >children: >Walter Scott and Daniel Webster.. Twins >Frankie Belle >Alice Grace >Cristie May >Ida Medora >Cyrus Le Roy >Rolla B. >Daisy Bertha >Winthrope Hayes >I have Cyrus's pension papers from the Civil War. If anyone has the name >of his fathers father. His father was Stephen Payne b.July 11,1811 in >N.Y. His mother was Sarah Bristol was b.sept.28,1817. I have all of >Sarahs family. I need Stephens Father and mother. I think the father was >born in Eng. and the mother in Conn. > Thanks for any help you can give. Barbara Hinz,Central Point, Ore. > > >

My father, born in 1914 in Madison Co., NC, worked in either the WPA, CCC or TVA when he was about 16 years old. My aunt said he built roads. Does anyone have any idea which of these projects were in progress in the Madison County area abt. 1930ish (possibly + or - a few years)? Does anyone know where I could possibly get a list of employees of the programs or their web sites, I'd like to do some research on the program he was involved with. Thank you. Linda Ball Researching: Anderson * Ball * Kent * Payne

Yes, I agree. We need to be patient. Thank you, Edie -----Original Message----- From: PAYNE FAMILY <PAYNE9@webtv.net> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: You'll enjoy this --WebTV-Mail-26504-1029 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I do not believe Stan Payne should be removed from the list.....it may not be appropriate and I have seen it on a list before.....BUT DO NOT REMOVE ANYONE FROM THE LIST FOR SENDING THIS ON!!! JUST be patient when sometimes we senor citizens just get fed up and drowning in garbage talk. I am married to a PAYNE AND SOMETIMES feel they are too vocal but on this I applaude!!! Nola Payne from WA --WebTV-Mail-26504-1029 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by storefull-158.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:05:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <PAYNE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id QAA11451; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17344; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:55:44 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:55:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <l03130303b4aea20d94a4@[204.119.57.199]> In-Reply-To: <001b01bf6445$589bf4c0$e291bece@columbiacenter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:59:53 -0800 Old-To: "Payne Stanley M" <spayne@columbia-center.org> From: "Brenda D. Monroe" <brendad@pioneer.net> Subject: Re: Fw: You'll enjoy this Old-Cc: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Message-ID: <khz_eB.A.WOE._HPi4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2687 X-Loop: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PAYNE-L-request@rootsweb.com To Stanley Payne and Payne list administrator- I didn't sign up for this genealogy list to get propaganda, hate mail, or anyone's political opinion. I think Mr. Payne should be removed from the list. There are other avenues for that kind of communication. I did not enjoy it. Brenda. >This probably should not be here, but I am in the senior category and am >sure many of you are also. If this offends anyone I humbly apologize. This >has not surfaced in the mainstream media. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Gotcher, Jim <jim.gotcher@orport.ang.af.mil> >To: <spayne@columbia-center.org> >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 12:34 PM >Subject: FW: You'll enjoy this > > >> Jim >> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 12:49 AM >> > Subject: SENIORS MUST LEARN TO SACRIFICE! >> > EVERYONE COULD NOT BE DRAFT DODGERS Brenda Gaines Gulick Swamp Creek Garden -Oregon http://www.pioneer.net/~brendad/ Mom's side - Smith, Payne, Ward, Nolen, Killcreece, McDaniel, Lamb, Johnson, Degraffenreid, Vass, Baker, Needham, Tscharner, Diesbach, Jenner, Muhlinen, Abbuhl, Lenheer, Ringenberg, Enswyl, Von Lindenach, Veller, VonBaum , Stone, Rust Dad's side - Gaines, Malcom, Holderby, Lewis, Harvey. Felix, Mays My Patner Patrick's family names- Gulick, Chaffey, Stevens/Stephens, Flynn --WebTV-Mail-26504-1029--

Still trying to get past my Moses Payne. any help is appreciated Lewis Descendants of: MOSES PAYNE 1 MOSES PAYNE b. 1799 Ky. ? m. July 27, 1819 Hopkins Co. Ky. ELIZABETH ROSE b. 1795 N.C. 2 ELIZA JANE PAYNE b. 1825 Hopkins Co. Ky. 2 MARTHA (Patsey)PAYNE b. 1829 Hopkins Co. Ky. 2 EASTER PAYNE b. 1834 Hopkins Co. Ky. 2 JAMES WESLEY PAYNE b. 1838 Hopkins Co. Ky. m. Nov.27, 1866 Hopkins Co. Ky.Ky. Lucy Payne b. 1844/5 Ky. d. July 25, 1926 716 Letcher St. So.Audubon Henderson ,KY 3 John F. Payne b. 1865 Hopkins Co. Ky. 3 SARAH FRANCES PAYNE b. 1868 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. May. 4, 1917 Doniphine, MO m. John Dillard Collins Solomon Gunn d. 1916 Doniphine, Mo. 3 JAMES WILLIAM PAYNE b. 1871 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. JUNE 12 1938 MADISONVILLE, HOPKINS CO. KY. 3 MARY ELIZABETH PAYNE b. Aug 30 1873 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. MAR 27 1936 537 LAMBERT, WAGNER HENDERSON,KY. m. OCT 7, 1890 Hopkins Co. Ky. John Calvin Jenkins b. Oct 7 1861 UNION CO. KY. d. APRIL 9, 1933 St.Louis Mo. 3 SUSAN ANN PAYNE b. Oct. 1875 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. 1910 Hopkins Co. Ky. 3 SQUIRE PAYNE b. 1878 Hopkins Co. Ky. m. 1892 Crittenden Co, KY. Ada Smith 3 ANNIE DAYTON PAYNE b. Mar. 1, 1880 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. Dec.22,1947 Henderson , KY. m. May 29, 1895 Hopkins Co Ky. ALEXANDER COLEMAN CLAYTON b. Nov. 17, 1856 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. Oct.4, 1917 Hopkins Co. Ky. m. Agustus G. ( Gus ) Marks b. Mar. 20, 1879 Webster Co. KY. d. Sept. 24, 1948 HENDERSON, KY. 3 Mildred Payne b. May 1, 1883 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. May 23,1959 Hopkins Co. Ky. Olive Branch Community m. April 15,1899 Hopkins Co. Ky. Charles P. Jenkins b. April 1883 Webster Co. KY. 3 Albert Payne b. Feb. 1885 Hopkins Co. Ky. d. 1963 Hopkins Co. Ky.

Good morning folks; I just recieved from another mail list a Very fast Search engine I recieved my family name in 0.0833 seconds with 86,776 documents. Try it it's the fastest I've ever seen. http://www.alltheweb.com Lewis Eby( my mother was a Payme)

Thought it was time to re-post my Paynes: Bertha PAYNE b. c1878, Greene, Chenango County, NY parents: Mary TIGHE b. c1860, Castlekelly, Ireland Hubert D. PAYNE - Nothing known Does anyone have any information on Hubert D. PAYNE in New York State?

A NOTE OF ENCOURAGEMENT: If someone on the list does live near the U of VA & has worked in the manuscript material directly, I would urge him/her to continue to do so, with the goal of published extracted material on this list, leading up to a more complet hardcover publication. Such a project would be ideal for Gateway or Genealogical Pub or Heritage Books and would be a MAJOR contribution to 16th-19 cent. historical and genealogical research. I myself am working in the Shattuck papers at the NEHGS. So far, there's nothing there that Shattuck hasn't touched on in his pioneering NE works, but there is material highly usuful for individvual families. I'm preparing a more detailed catalog for my own use but will give to the Society, which has recognized how vastly underutilized its mansucript holdings are (mostly due to the bibliographic problem of poor catalog which puts a significant barrier in front of people doing name searches). So, if anyone has used these Payne papers, please consider undertaking it as a serious scholarly endeavor. After all, do this right and your name will NEVER go out of print! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Michael & Others, Michael H Lampkin wrote: >...I find on page 4 of > The_Paynes_of_Virginia, Col. Payne offers this teaser to the other four > groups which aren't covered in detail by his book, > "It is hoped that the writer will be able to expand these remaining > four groups in some future volume." > > Were any of his subsequent notes ever published in full or partial or do > any exist? Col. Brooke Payne died in the year following the publishing of "The Paynes of Virginia", therfore unable to pursue publishing other PAYNE volumes. However, his files survived him, I think in about 22 boxes which were contributed by his family to the University of Virginia Library. One needs permission from the university (& probably an appointment) to study his files. I'm working from memory here, and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I know that a relative few (at least one) on this list have actually spent time perusing his files. Danny Payne sdcaller@icon.net

Hello fellow Payne researchers, With my recent revelation that my genealogical research "might" link to Ralph PAYNE of Rappahannock, VA, I find on page 4 of The_Paynes_of_Virginia, Col. Payne offers this teaser to the other four groups which aren't covered in detail by his book, "It is hoped that the writer will be able to expand these remaining four groups in some future volume." Were any of his subsequent notes ever published in full or partial or do any exist? Thanks, Mike -- * Michael H. Lampkin * scout@lampkindesign.com -- * Oktibbeha County Genealogy Web Site * http://www.rootsweb.com/~msoktibb -- * LAMPKIN Genealogical Web Site * http://www.lampkin.net

Hi, Just got back on the list...long vacation! Looking for the parents of James Madison PAYNE b.1814 d. 1898 (Tennessee) married in 1848: Lucy Caroline PERRY of Southport Tennessee Thanks, Sandra Cook Houston, America (Payne, Perry, Upshaw, Ross, Campbell, Dickey, Yokely, Hannah families of TN)

Cousins, I would like to push back the veil a little on this line. Does anyone have any information of a historical nature on the Paynes that follow? I am a descendant of Orra Payne. Descendants of William Payne 1 William Payne b: Sep 10, 1728 in New Haven, CT d: Abt. 1805 in New Hartford, CT . +Elizabeth Bibbins . 2 Isaac Payne . 2 Jessie Payne . 2 William Payne Jr. . 2 Eber Payne . 2 Phoebe Payne . 2 Elizabeth Payne ..... +Thomas Paine . 2 Abraham Payne b: May 28, 1758 in New Hartford, CT d: Oct 30, 1827 in Salem Twp, Washington Co., OH ..... +Hannah Lewis b: Jan 13, 1759 m: Dec 9, 1779 d: Jan 10, 1849 . 2 Ezra Payne b: Sep 17, 1765 in Simsbury, Hartford Co., CT d: Apr 3, 1853 in Westfield Twp, Morrow Co., OH ..... +Amy Matson b: Nov 26, 1769 in Simsbury, Hartford Co., CT m: Oct 1785 d: Apr 27, 1844 in Westfield Twp, Morrow Co., OH .... 3 Amy Payne b: Mar 6, 1789 ........ +Philo Holcomb .... 3 Ezra Payne Jr. b: Nov 1, 1791 ........ +Mary Phelps .... 3 Austin Payne b: Feb 16, 1792 d: Nov 18, 1885 in Date may be Nov 18, 1865. Glendale Cemetery. ........ +Lucinda Lyons b: Nov 12, 1803 m: Jan 2, 1820 d: Mar 22, 1890 .... 3 Anson Payne b: Jun 9, 1794 ........ +Jane Blake .... 3 Betsey Payne b: Sep 18, 1797 d: Jun 7, 1808 .... 3 Orra Payne b: Jul 6, 1798 in New Hartford, Litchfield Co., CT d: Oct 20, 1880 in Westfield Twp, Morrow Co., OH - Buried in Peak Cemetery. ........ +Jacob Conklin b: Jun 10, 1787 in St. Alburgs, Grand Isles Co., VT m: Sep 17, 1818 in Liberty Twp., Delaware Co., OH d: Mar 12, 1875 in Westfield Twp, Morrow Co., OH - Buried in Peak Cemetery, Morrow Co., OH .... 3 Alvah Payne b: Apr 30, 1800 ........ +Thompson .... 3 Phebe Ann Payne b: Apr 4, 1802 in CT d: Apr 4, 1889 in Mt. Pleasant, Izard Co., AR (St. Paul Cemetery) ........ +Grove Meeker b: Jan 17, 1797 in CT d: Apr 19, 1880 in Mt. Pleasant, Izard Co., AR (St. Paul Cemetery) .... 3 Hiram Payne b: Feb 27, 1804 ........ +Mary York .... 3 Edmond Payne b: Jun 2, 1806 d: Sep 11, 1835 ........ +Julia Dingle .... 3 Elvira Payne b: Apr 2, 1808 ........ +Lee Nutt .... 3 Miles Payne b: Jun 1, 1810 d: Jan 1, 1863 ........ +Silvia Wilcox .... 3 William Payne b: Jun 6, 1813 Sincerely, Bob Armstrong in Houston, TX

Hi Gena, Very often on these lists, when someone posts an essay of a political or religious nature, a minor (or major) flame war is the result. You came in on the tail end of a MINOR flame skirmish. Please do not allow something so trivial to drive you off the list. We need everyone on this list to help find the people for whom we search. Bill Hobbs

Hello - I joined this list yesterday. I have just received the first email from PAYNE-L. What fabulous first impressions this list makes!! The very first thing I read is: snip >I am unsubcribing from this list > because I cannot accept the behavior that I have witnessed. If a group of > people cannot be laid back or civil enough to simply read what someone wrote > without going ballistic, then I do not belong with them. snip I am NOT taking issue with the person who wrote of the decision to unsubscribe. I AM wondering loudly about what kind of people would drive another to that decision and not give a second thought that this might be someone's first impression of the list. I will wait to see what the second email from PAYNE-L brings. I already wonder "what have I gotten myself into?" Gena

List, I have to agree here. I am one of the younger generations who is searching for my roots, and I am disappointed in what I have heard. Whether we like it or not, we are family and I was always taught that we accept each other no matter what. The submission was very insightful and true. The truth hurts. I am still trying to figure out what was so bad about it. I am unsubcribing from this list because I cannot accept the behavior that I have witnessed. If a group of people cannot be laid back or civil enough to simply read what someone wrote without going ballistic, then I do not belong with them. I know that this is a GENEALOGY mailing list. However, this is also a place for the Payne family to gather. I think that it is nice to hear the opinions and stories that others tell because it gives us all an idea of what each family member is like. Most likely, several of us will never meet, and this may be the only way to learn about each other. I compare it to sitting around and talking to my grandfather about life. How sad that no one else can see that. I think that I will stick with the mailing lists, or families, that appreciate good conversations and respect each other enough to listen to them. They do not mind learning or listening to each other because, after all, their family. Jill Hagelin Debbie Carter wrote: > I personally enjoyed the piece you sent in. In dealing with genealogy I have > learned to think about others thoughts and feelings. > I have sat through MANY,MANY mailings of others that had absolutely nothing > to do with genealogy and even a few of a very personal nature and have not > complained to the extent I have seen over this. > Mr Payne expressed AN OPINION. > He didn't commit a crime,when I reach the point that I cannot listen > politely to others viewpoints as I was taught to do as a child, then it is > time for me to move to a communist country where nobody is allowed to have > opinions and thoughts. > If we didn't listen to some of the seniors opinions and thoughts, alot of us > would miss a great deal of the oral family history that they possess and > that make genealogy interesting. > Debra Carter