Hello, Does anyone have a connection to Mary Payne married to Richard W. Bishop?

The following obituary appeared in the Chenango [Co., NY] American on May 23, 1895: H.D. Payne, son of Delos and Pamelia [Permelia] A. Payne, was born March 23, 1858, at Greene, NY, and died May 11, 1895. Mr. Payne spent a large portion of his early life at the home of his early childhood in Greene. A few years since while on business in New York City, he was nearly suffocated with gas in his room, at a hotel; he was pronounced dead by his physicians, but after five hours work over him he was restored to consciousness. The effects of the gas and the terrible ordeal through which he passed by their efforts to restore him from which he never fully recovered, causing a complication of difficulties that has finally terminated in death. During the last nine years when his health would permit he has been more than an ordinary successful commercial traveler, having traveled over a large portion of the United States, and was anticipating in the near future, if he recovered his health, to travel through Europe. His father lost his life in the Great War of the Rebellion. His younger and only brother perished at the Brooklyn theatre in 1876. He leaves a sorrowing wife, one daughter and a mother to mourn his loss, besides numerous relatives. But they do not mourn as those without hope; they feel fully assured that his loss is their eternal gain. His remains were borne to our beautiful cemetery [Sylvan Lawn] at Greene by loving friends and laid to rest near the side of his brother, where he will await the final resurrection.

Sorry to invade the list to get this but my computer crashed... and I need Janet Payne from the Payne Pack to e-mail me.

Hello, Does anyone have David Payne married Ann Garrison 1791 in Montgomery, VA? Son Simeon is my g-g grandfather. Thanks, Nick

I need help finding ancestors of my maternal grandfather, Willis Franklin Payne, b. ?, d. 1937 in Fort Worth, Tarrant Co. Texas. M. Lillian Pankey Oliver, b. Jan 1, 1882, d. 1966, in Fort Worth, Tarrant Co. Texas.Children: 1. Son d. infant, 2. Joseph Alexander, 3. Jayne Catherine, 4. David. all born in Fort Worth. Any help with this line would be great. This is brickwall. Thanks, Bill

hi, jim. my dad James LeRoy Payne was born in Glasgow, KY. his father was Rollie Payne, who had an identical twin, Roy Payne. he says his grandfather came to Ky from Tx. i suspect he was returning to his roots. i think that the John Payne on your line may be a connection: ...... 3 John Payne 1782 - 1826 b: Abt. 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 4/1/1826 in , Garrard, KY ....................... +Sarah (Paine) I wonder if you or anyone else on the list might have the descendants of this John Payne... patti payne

I am related to this family through John Payne and Mary Bradburn who lived in North Carolina. I can supply information on some of their descendants. Email me for details. Jackie Malik

In a message dated 5/24/00 12:03:47 PM Central Daylight Time, FordMA@aol.com writes: << Thomas Paine's parents were John and Frances Coleman, Paine. Anyone see a connection here?? >> The Colemans were a prominent family in Spotsylvania. Do you see a Spilsby Coleman in the crowd" He was born somewhere around 1740 and his parents were Samuel Coleman and Elizabeth Wyatt. He had brothers Francis and Wyatt Coleman. Jno

Dear Listers-- Vogt & Kethley report the marriage of William Payne to Nancy Foster in Orange Co., VA, in 1795. Col. Brooke Payne also reports this marriage, but provides no further information. Does anyone have any information on the children, if any, of this marriage? Thanks in advance. Kevin Thompson katatty@socket.net

I have a William Paine, b. in Spotsylvania Co., VA m. Averilla Kay on 8 Jan. 1793 in Orange Co., VA. William's father was Thomas Paine, b. ca 1739 in Spotsylvania Co. d. 1815 in Orange Co. Thomas Paine's parents were John and Frances Coleman, Paine. Anyone see a connection here?? Mary

My deepest apologies! I just noticed I pulled the information from my working database which is not fully cleaned up. Sorry if I caused any confusion. Please use this information instead: Descendants of FRANCES Coleman 1 FRANCES Coleman 1706 - 1780 b: Abt. 1706 in , King and Queen, VA d: Abt. 1780 .. +JOHN Paine 1705 - 1770 b: Abt. 1705 in Drysdale Parish, King and Queen, VA m: Abt. 1734 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1770 in St. George's Parish, Spotsylvania, VA ......... 2 John Paine, Jr. 1738 - 1772 b: Abt. 1738 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: Abt. 1772 in , Spotsylvania, VA ............ +Mary 'Molly' Long m: Bef. 1757 in VA .................... 3 John Paine 1773 - b: Bef. 1773 ......... 2 THOMAS Paine 1739 - 1815 b: Abt. 1739 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1815 in , Orange, VA ............. +ELIZABETH (Paine) .................... 3 THOMAS Paine 1763 - 1853 b: 1763 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1853 in Cross Rock, Madison, NC ........................ +JANE Elizabeth (Paine) 1767 - 1842 b: 1767 m: in probably Rowan Co, NC d: 1842 in Cross Rock, Madison, NC .................... 3 Nancy Paine 1765 - b: Abt. 1765 in VA ....................... +? Molosus .................... 3 William Paine 1767 - b: Abt. 1767 in VA ........................ +Nancy Foster m: 1795 in , Orange, VA .................... 3 James Paine 1769 - b: Abt. 1769 in VA .................... 3 Milley Paine 1771 - b: Abt. 1771 in VA ........................ +John Stevenson m: 12/23/1793 in , Orange, VA .................... 3 Mary 'Molly' Paine 1773 - b: Abt. 1773 in VA ........................ +Roger Mallory m: 5/16/1797 in , Orange, VA .................... 3 Judith Paine 1775 - b: Abt. 1775 in VA ........................ +Elijah Mallory m: 4/4/1804 in , Orange, VA .................... 3 John Paine 1777 - b: Abt. 1777 in VA ........................ +Sussanah 'Suckey' Lindsay m: 8/6/1793 in , Orange, VA .................... 3 Robert Paine 1779 - b: Abt. 1779 in VA ....................... +Ann Collins m: 7/24/1809 in , Orange, VA .................... 3 Jesse Paine 1781 - b: Abt. 1781 in VA .................... 3 Frances Paine 1783 - b: Abt. 1783 in VA ........................ +John Bradburn m: Bef. 1809 .................... 3 Betsy Paine 1785 - b: Abt. 1785 in VA ........................ +Jonathon Leathers m: 9/23/1807 in , Orange, VA ......... 2 George Paine 1742 - 1819 b: Abt. 1742 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1819 in , Wayne, OH ............. +Elizabeth 'Lizzie' (Paine) ................... 3 Frances Paine ........................ +Lawrence Winkler .................... 3 Judith Paine - 1819 d: 1819 in , Orange, VA ........................ +Richard Embree - 1818 m: 1/17/1785 in , Orange, VA d: Bef. 1818 .................... 3 William Paine 1770 - b: Bet. 1770 - 1775 in , Spotsylvania, VA .................... 3 John Paine 1782 - b: 11/24/1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Rebecca Ford 1800 - b: Abt. 1800 in NC ........ 2 ROBERT Bynum Paine 1745 - 1805 b: Abt. 1745 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1805 in , Burke, NC ............. +RACHEL Lord 1750 - 1809 b: Abt. 1750 in VA m: Abt. 1770 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: Abt. 1809 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Daniel Paine 1771 - 1839 b: Abt. 1771 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1839 in , Maury, TN ........................ +Nancy Paine 1774 - 1860 b: Abt. 1774 in VA m: 1790 d: Aft. 1860 in , Maury, TN .................... 3 Catherine Paine 1771 - 1834 b: 9/16/1771 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: Abt. 1834 in , Burke, NC ....................... +Samuel Austin 1768 - 1854 b: 8/29/1768 in MD d: 1854 in , Greene, MO .................... 3 Frances Paine 1774 - 1840 b: Abt. 1774 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: Bet. 1840 - 1850 in , Burke/Alexander, NC ........................ +William Fox, Sr. 1769 - 1850 b: Abt. 1769 in NC d: Aft. 1850 in , Alexander, NC .................... 3 Mary Paine 1778 - 1844 b: Abt. 1778 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1844 in , Buncombe, NC .................... 3 Katie Paine 1780 - 1840 b: Abt. 1780 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: Aft. 1840 in , Burke, NC ........................ +Moses Teague 1771 - 1845 b: Abt. 1771 in , Wilkes, NC m: Abt. 1800 d: Abt. 1845 in , Alexander, NC .................... 3 Temperance Paine 1782 - b: Abt. 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Elijah Austin 1774 - 1842 b: 2/15/1774 in , Orange, NC m: 8/8/1809 in , Burke, NC d: Bet. 1842 - 1843 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Elizabeth Paine 1786 - 1828 b: 3/2/1786 in , Culpepper, VA d: 4/29/1828 in , Buncombe, NC ....................... +Edward Teague 1782 - 1832 b: 10/17/1782 in NC d: 2/23/1832 in , Buncombe, NC .................... 3 John Paine 1789 - 1866 b: 2/11/1789 in , Culpepper, VA d: 3/28/1866 in , Buncombe, NC ........................ +Mary Bradburn 1796 - 1872 b: 8/6/1796 in , Burke, NC m: 4/12/1810 in , Burke, NC d: 8/22/1872 in Turkey Creek, Buncombe, NC .................... 3 Robert Paine 1791 - 1859 b: 9/20/1791 in , Burke, NC d: 4/12/1859 in , Marion, TN ........................ +Mary Baker 1791 - 1870 b: Abt. 1791 in , Burke, NC m: 7/20/1809 in , Burke, NC d: 6/1870 in , Alexander, NC .................... *2nd Wife of Robert Paine: ........................ +Nancy McMahan 1803 - 1872 b: 8/10/1803 in GA m: 1818 in , Marion, TN d: 3/1/1872 in , Marion, TN ......... 2 William Paine 1750 - 1807 b: Abt. 1750 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1807 in , Burke, NC ............. +Catherine Arnold 1753 - 1819 b: 1753 in , Spotsylvania, VA m: Bef. 1774 d: 1819 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Thomas C. Paine, Rev. 1774 - 1838 b: 12/27/1774 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 10/4/1838 in , Limestone, AL ........................ +Susannah B. Cobb 1780 - 1838 b: 1780 in NC m: 6/19/1800 d: Aft. 1838 .................... 3 Abner Burgess Paine 1777 - 1845 b: 3/3/1777 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 8/14/1845 in , Caldwell, NC ........................ +Catherine Sherrill 1786 - 1867 b: 4/6/1786 in , Lincoln, NC m: 1/1/1801 in , Burke, NC d: 5/12/1867 in , Caldwell, NC .................... 3 Sarah Paine 1782 - 1855 b: 9/12/1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 5/31/1855 in , Giles, TN ....................... +Meshach Boyce 1781 - 1849 b: 2/22/1781 in NC d: 1849 in , Giles, TN .................... 3 Lydia Catherine Paine 1787 - 1873 b: 8/16/1787 in , Burke, NC d: 3/6/1873 in , Giles, TN ........................ +Elam Stevenson, Rev. 1787 - 1875 b: 9/24/1787 in , Rowan, NC d: 3/13/1875 in , Giles, TN .................... 3 Catherine Paine 1790 - 1878 b: 1/15/1790 in , Burke, NC d: 1/30/1878 in , Crockett, TN ........................ +Coleman Harwell, Rev. 1789 - 1841 b: 7/3/1789 d: 1/8/1841 in , Giles, TN ......... 2 Barnett Paine 1757 - 1816 b: Abt. 1757 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1816 in , Burke, NC ............. +Nancy (Paine) .................... 3 Elizabeth 'Betsy' Payne 1780 - 1813 b: Abt. 1780 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 1813 in , Warren, TN ........................ +Alexander Sherrill - 1862 m: 9/20/1798 in , Burke, NC d: 6/1/1862 in , Schuyler, IL .................... 3 John Payne 1782 - 1826 b: Abt. 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA d: 4/1/1826 in , Garrard, KY ....................... +Sarah (Paine) .................... 3 Lewis Payne 1784 - 1834 b: Abt. 1784 in NC d: 1834 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Lucinda 'Lucy' Payne 1785 - 1854 b: 9/25/1785 in NC d: 10/26/1854 in , Giles, TN ........................ +John Johnson m: 1/15/1805 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 William 'Billy' Payne 1787 - b: Abt. 1787 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Aquilla Payne 1790 - 1852 b: 11/2/1790 in , Burke, NC d: 2/6/1852 in , Caldwell, NC ....................... +Mary West 1791 - 1856 b: 6/18/1791 in NC d: 11/24/1856 in , Caldwell, NC .................... 3 Mary Payne 1792 - 1840 b: Abt. 1792 in , Burke, NC d: Abt. 1840 in , Burke, NC ........................ +William Reed, Jr. .................... 3 Henry Barnett Payne 1794 - 1854 b: 1794 in , Burke, NC d: 1854 in , Burke, NC ........................ +Elizabeth Barnes .................... *2nd Wife of Henry Barnett Payne: ........................ +Margaret Oxford m: 12/1812 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Nancy Payne 1798 - b: Abt. 1798 in , Burke, NC

Here's some more info: Descendants of FRANCES Coleman 1 FRANCES COLEMAN 1706 - 1780 b: Abt. 1706 in , King and Queen, VA . +John PAINE 1705 - 1770 m: Abt. 1734 Father: BARNETT (Barnabus) PAINE Mother: ELIZABETH (PAINE) b: Abt. 1705 in Drysdale Parish, King and Queen, VA ......... 2 John PAINE, Jr. 1738 - 1772 b: Abt. 1738 in , Spotsylvania, VA ............. +Mary 'Molly' LONG m: Bef. 1757 Father: Bloomfield LONG Mother: Mary (LONG) .................... 3 John PAINE 1773 - b: Bef. 1773 ......... 2 THOMAS PAINE 1739 - 1815 b: Abt. 1739 in , Spotsylvania, VA ............. +ELIZABETH (PAINE) ................... 3 Thomas PAINE 1763 - 1853 b: Bef. 1763 in Berkley Parish, Spotslvania Co., Virginia ........................ +Jane Elizabeth * UNKNOWN 1767 - 1842 b: Abt. 1767 in NC .................... *2nd Wife of Thomas Paine: ........................ +JANE Elizabeth (PAINE) 1767 - 1842 b: 1767 .................... 3 Nancy PAINE 1765 - b: Abt. 1765 in VA ........................ +? MOLOSUS .................... 3 William PAINE 1767 - b: Abt. 1767 in VA ........................ +Nancy FOSTER m: 1795 ................... 3 James PAINE 1769 - b: Abt. 1769 in VA .................... 3 Milley PAINE 1771 - b: Abt. 1771 in VA ........................ +John STEVENSON m: December 23, 1793 .................... 3 Mary 'Molly' PAINE 1773 - b: Abt. 1773 in VA ........................ +Roger MALLORY m: May 16, 1797 .................... 3 Judith PAINE 1775 - b: Abt. 1775 in VA ........................ +Elijah MALLORY m: April 04, 1804 .................... 3 John PAINE 1777 - b: Abt. 1777 in VA ........................ +Sussanah 'Suckey' LINDSAY m: August 06, 1793 Father: Adam LINDSAY Mother: Elizabeth GARNETT .................... 3 Robert PAINE 1779 - b: Abt. 1779 in VA ........................ +Ann COLLINS m: July 24, 1809 .................... 3 Jesse PAINE 1781 - b: Abt. 1781 in VA .................... 3 Frances PAINE 1783 - b: Abt. 1783 in VA ....................... +John BRADBURN m: Bef. 1809 .................... 3 Betsy PAINE 1785 - b: Abt. 1785 in VA ........................ +Jonathon LEATHERS m: September 23, 1807 ......... *2nd Wife of THOMAS Paine: ............. +ELIZABETH ......... 2 George PAINE 1742 - 1819 b: Abt. 1742 in , Spotsylvania, VA ............. +Elizabeth 'Lizzie' (PAINE) .................... 3 Frances PAINE ........................ +Lawrence WINKLER .................... 3 Judith PAINE - 1819 ....................... +Richard EMBREE - 1818 m: January 17, 1785 .................... 3 William PAINE 1770 - b: Bet. 1770 - 1775 in , Spotsylvania, VA .................... 3 John PAINE 1782 - b: November 24, 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Rebecca FORD 1800 - b: Abt. 1800 in NC ......... 2 William PAINE 1750 - 1807 b: Abt. 1750 in , Spotsylvania, VA ............. +Catherine ARNOLD 1755 - 1816 m: Bef. 1774 Father: William ARNOLD Mother: Lydia BELL b: Abt. 1755 in Spotslvania Co., Virginia ................... 3 Thomas C. PAINE, Rev. 1774 - 1838 b: December 27, 1774 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Susannah B. COBB 1780 - 1838 m: June 19, 1800 b: 1780 in NC .................... 3 Sarah PAINE 1782 - 1855 b: September 12, 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Meshach BOYCE 1781 - 1849 b: February 22, 1781 in NC .................... 3 Catherine PAINE 1790 - 1878 b: January 15, 1790 in , Burke, NC ........................ +Coleman HARWELL, Rev. 1789 - 1841 b: July 03, 1789 .................... 3 Abner Burgess PAINE 1777 - 1845 b: March 03, 1777 in Spotsyvani Co., VA ........................ +Catherine SHERRILL 1786 - 1867 m: January 01, 1801 Father: Jacob SHERRILL Mother: Sarah MASSEY b: April 06, 1786 in Lincoln Co., NC .................... 3 Lydia Catherine PAINE 1787 - 1872 b: August 16, 1787 in NC ........................ +Elam Stephenson / STEVENSON 1787 - 1875 m: January 1808 b: September 24, 1787 in Rowan Co., NC ......... 2 Barnett PAINE 1757 - 1816 b: Abt. 1757 in , Spotsylvania, VA ............. +Nancy (PAINE) .................... 3 Elizabeth 'Betsy' PAYNE 1780 - 1813 b: Abt. 1780 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Alexander SHERRILL 1778 - 1862 m: September 20, 1798 Father: William J. SHERRILL Mother: Isabel LOWRANCE b: November 06, 1778 in NC ................... 3 John PAYNE 1782 - 1826 b: Abt. 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Sarah (PAINE) .................... 3 Lewis PAYNE 1784 - 1834 b: Abt. 1784 in NC .................... 3 Lucinda 'Lucy' PAYNE 1785 - 1854 b: September 25, 1785 in NC ........................ +John JOHNSON m: January 15, 1805 .................... 3 William 'Billy' PAYNE 1787 - b: Abt. 1787 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Aquilla PAYNE 1790 - 1852 b: November 02, 1790 in , Burke, NC ....................... +Mary E. WEST 1791 - 1856 b: June 18, 1791 in NC .................... 3 Mary PAYNE 1792 - 1840 b: Abt. 1792 in , Burke, NC ........................ +William REED, Jr. .................... 3 Henry Barnett PAYNE 1794 - 1854 b: 1794 in , Burke, NC ........................ +Elizabeth BARNES .................... *2nd Wife of Henry Barnett Payne: ........................ +Margaret OXFORD m: December 1812 .................... 3 Nancy PAYNE 1798 - b: Abt. 1798 in , Burke, NC ........ 2 Robert Bynum PAINE 1745 - 1805 b: 1745 in Spotsylvania Co., VA ............. +Rachel LORD 1745 - m: Abt. 1770 b: Abt. 1745 in Virginia .................... 3 Daniel PAINE 1771 - 1839 b: Bet. 1771 - 1772 in Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Nancy PAYNE 1772 - 1860 m: Abt. 1790 b: Bet. 1772 - 1773 .................... 3 Frances PAINE 1773 - 1850 b: Abt. 1773 in Spotsylvania Co., VA ........................ +[1] William FOX, Sr. 1769 - 1850 b: Abt. 1769 in NC ................... 3 Catherine Katy/Katie PAINE 1774 - 1840 b: Bet. 1774 - 1780 in Spotsylvania Co., VA ........................ +Moses TEAGUE 1774 - 1845 m: Abt. 1800 Father: Edward TEAGUE Mother: Sarah PRICE b: Abt. 1774 .................... 3 Mary PAINE 1778 - 1844 b: Abt. 1778 .................... 3 Sarah PAINE 1780 - b: Abt. 1780 ........................ +Elijah TEAGUE .................... 3 RACHEL PAINE 1783 - b: Bet. 1783 - 1785 in VA ........................ +James PAINE 1784 - 1870 Father: Thomas PAINE Mother: JANE Elizabeth (PAINE) b: Abt. 1784 in NC .................... 3 Elizabeth PAINE 1786 - 1828 b: March 02, 1786 in Spotsylvania Co., VA ........................ +Edward TEAGUE 1782 - 1832 Father: John TEAGUE Mother: Martha SIMONTON b: October 17, 1782 .................... 3 John Franklin PAINE, Sr. 1789 - 1866 b: February 11, 1789 in Culpepper Co., VA ........................ +Mary BRADBURN 1796 - 1872 m: April 12, 1810 Father: Thomas BRADBURN Mother: Elizabeth Ann ELLEDGE b: August 06, 1796 in Burke Co., NC .................... 3 Eleanor PAINE 1793 - b: Abt. 1793 in NC ........................ +Benjamin AUSTIN 1797 - b: Abt. 1797 in NC .................... 3 Robert PAINE 1791 - 1859 b: September 20, 1791 in Burke Co., NC ........................ +[2] Mary BAKER 1791 - 1870 m: July 20, 1809 Father: Henry BAKER Mother: Catherine KOCK/COOK b: Abt. 1791 .................... *2nd Wife of Robert Paine: ....................... +Nancy MCMAHAN 1803 - 1872 m: Abt. 1818 Father: Lettis/Lett MCMAHAN Mother: Milly UNKNOWN b: August 10, 1803 in Georgia ......... *2nd Wife of Robert Bynum Paine: ............. +RACHEL LORD 1750 - 1809 m: Abt. 1770 b: Abt. 1750 in VA .................... 3 Daniel PAINE 1771 - 1839 b: Abt. 1771 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Nancy PAINE 1774 - 1860 m: 1790 b: Abt. 1774 in VA .................... 3 Catherine PAINE 1771 - 1834 b: September 16, 1771 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Samuel AUSTIN 1768 - 1854 b: August 29, 1768 in MD .................... 3 Frances PAINE 1774 - 1840 b: Abt. 1774 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +[1] William FOX, Sr. 1769 - 1850 b: Abt. 1769 in NC .................... 3 Mary PAINE 1778 - 1844 b: Abt. 1778 in , Spotsylvania, VA .................... 3 Katie PAINE 1780 - 1840 b: Abt. 1780 in , Spotsylvania, VA ........................ +Moses TEAGUE 1771 - 1845 m: Abt. 1800 b: Abt. 1771 in , Wilkes, NC ................... 3 Temperance PAINE 1782 - b: Abt. 1782 in , Spotsylvania, VA ....................... +Elijah AUSTIN 1774 - 1842 m: August 08, 1809 b: February 15, 1774 in , Orange, NC .................... 3 Elizabeth PAINE 1786 - 1828 b: March 02, 1786 in , Culpepper, VA ........................ +Edward TEAGUE 1782 - 1832 Father: John TEAGUE Mother: Martha SYMINGTON b: October 17, 1782 in NC .................... 3 John PAINE 1789 - 1866 b: February 11, 1789 in , Culpepper, VA ........................ +Mary BRADBURN 1796 - 1872 m: April 12, 1810 Father: Thomas BRADBURN Mother: Elizabeth Ann ELLEDGE b: August 06, 1796 in , Burke, NC .................... 3 Robert PAINE 1791 - 1859 b: September 20, 1791 in , Burke, NC ........................ +[2] Mary BAKER 1791 - 1870 m: July 20, 1809 Father: Henry BAKER Mother: Catherine KOCK/COOK b: Abt. 1791 .................... *2nd Wife of Robert Paine: ........................ +Nancy MCMAHAN 1803 - 1872 m: 1818 Father: Lettis MCMAHAN Mother: Milly (MCMAHAN) b: August 10, 1803 in GA Note that we cannot establish the parentage of Francis Coleman, wife of John Payne (they are my 7g grandparents 3 ways; 2 via Robert, 1 via Thomas) conclusively. Our best judgment is that she is the daughter of Robert Coleman and Mary Clayton. Sherry Nichol, who has researched the Colemans a great deal has concluded that this is our best choice until we find evidence that proves otherwise. Hope this helps. Thanks to my cousin Rich and my aunt Gale Payne Nagy for their massive contribution to my database. --Jim Payne FordMA@aol.com wrote: > I have a William Paine, b. in Spotsylvania Co., VA m. Averilla Kay on 8 Jan. > 1793 in Orange Co., VA. William's father was Thomas Paine, b. ca 1739 in > Spotsylvania Co. d. 1815 in Orange Co. Thomas Paine's parents were John and > Frances Coleman, Paine. > Anyone see a connection here?? > Mary

Dear Peter: This is the first time I have seen your name on the Payne list. My grandmother was Clara Payne originally of Illinois. She married by grandfather Henry Andrews and lived many years in upstate New York. My grandfather's mother was Alice Elizabeth Wyant born around 1879. Any connection here? Aimee Piccolo ----- Original Message ----- From: P. S. Wyant <p.wyant@sk.sympatico.ca> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: Change of Address > Might I ask all my correspondents to note that I've had a change of > snail mail address, please? Please post me if you'd like my new mailing > address. > > Thanks. > > Peter Wyant > Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada > >

I appreciate all of you as we have been in contact either meeting, by phone, e-mail or letter. I changed my e-mail to rpayne01@msn.com and am closing this e-mail tommorrow. I do appreciate the efforts you all have made in geneology research and that you have been willing to share the information. This is a lifetime endeavor. I would also like to keep in touch to share new finds. Thank you all again. Ronald Jacob Payne Falls Church, VA

Might I ask all my correspondents to note that I've had a change of snail mail address, please? Please post me if you'd like my new mailing address. Thanks. Peter Wyant Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Payne Listers, Coleman Cousins, The maiden name of Rebecca Coleman, wife of Thomas Coleman, born 1763 in Caroline Co., Va., died 1805 Spotsylvania, deemed to have been Kay or Key by Judge Bernard Coleman has been researched by Dr. Thomas W. Jones. In his report he states Thomas Coleman to be an executor of for Mary Aldus which land was later inherited or otherwise acquired. He points out the possibility of her being mother in law as the widow of John Payne. She would have been the correct age to be the mother of Rebecca. I think I've run across John Payne in other connections with the Colemans. Does anyone have a list of the children of this John and Mary Aldus Payne? Bob McClure <http://www.bobmcclure.com>

Hi List members, I have a Payne /Jones marriage and was wondering if any of you could connect. At present this is all I have on her but His line connects into my GILLOCK line. Thank you Nelda L. Percival James Robert Jones - 1440. Son of Reese James (I) Jones - 1439 & Mary Elizabeth Gillock - 1384. Born 1829 in Sangamon Co., ILL. Died 1899. He married Nancy Jane Payne - 1441. Born 1834. Died 1917. They had the following children: 302 i. Sarah Elizabeth Jones - 2341 303 ii. Mary Francis Jones - 2342 304 iii. Reese Jones - 2343 305 iv. James Thomas Jones - 2344 306 v. Margaret Alice Jones - 2345 307 vi. Melissa Emeline Jones - 2346 308 vii. George Washington Jones - 2347 309 viii. Robert Lee Jones - 2348 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Fellow Rooters-- My brick wall may be breaking down and I need your help. I've learned that my 4G grandfather, Thomas Payne of Rockingham Co., VA, was born in Orange Co., VA, about 1804; his mother's name was "Annie." Are any of you familiar with this family? Thanks in advance. Kevin Thompson katatty@socket.net

I am searching for my grandfather Albert Payne, who married my grandmother, last name Brazell. He lived in Simpsonville, South Carolina. Any information that you may come across would be appreciated. John Payne chcpt@mindspring.com

Ladies and Gentleman....in the 1996-97 Payne archives there were numerous references to Susannah Payne of Lancaster VA. Dauther of William Payne, b. 1685. Was she married to John Carter or James Johnson? I am hoping that in the years since then someone has come up with new information. Two rather firm beliefs have been presented. One, that she married John Carter when she was 17 and had four children, one of whom was Merriman, as proof that she was from the William Payne, 1685/Judith Merriman marriage. Two, she married James Johnson. On this second theory, I have done some research. James Johnson died in 1787 and list in his will, his wife Susannah. Also, their daughter Judith, note the family name, married Daniel Dejarnette and named one of their daughters, Susannah Payne Dejarnette. So it appears were have two Susannah Paynes, both attributed to William and Judith Merriman Johnson. The Susannah who married John Carter, had to have died before 1749, because he is found with a second wife in Strafford Co in May of that year, and her 1710 birth fits with her parents marriage. The Susannah, married to Johnson was alive in 1787 and, had given birth to a son, Edmund, in 1761, so a 1710 birth date would be unusual if not impossible. So the first question is; is there any real proof as to when Susannah Payne was born, between 1710, when her parents were married and 1726 when her father died? The other big question, who was the other Suannah Payne, of the same time and age, connected to the same family? Any answers out there? Penny