PAINE DEEDS AND PROBATES Clinton Co., NY Compiled by Jennifer Payne Guarino and Addie Shields, Clinton County Historian August 2000 Contact: Jennifer Payne Guarino at jguarino@mindspring.com 4 April 1822 between Kinner Newcomb and Mary his wife of the town of Chazy, county of Clinton and State of New York of the first part and Thomas Paine of the same place of second part… (Land in what is now Altona, Clinton Co, NY) 26 December 1832 “between Anson B. Kingsley and Hannah Almirah his wife, Arrilla Kingsley Louisa Kingsley all of Beekmantown in the County of Clinton and State of New York of the first and Thomas Paine of Chazy 22 November 1839 Between Thomas Paine of Chazy County of Clinton State of New York and Sally his wife of the first part and Jason Paine and Nathaniel M. Paine of the same County and State…” (I believe Jason and Nathaniel are sons of Thomas and Sally Jennifer Payne Guarino) 20 December 1841 On same document above: “__all men by these___that I the within named Nathaniel M. Paine do __ sell ___and quit claim unto the __named Jason Paine all my rights and title to the ___ __ piece or parcel of ___for and in ___ of three hundred dollars…signed Nathaniel Mayo Paine 20 or 25 Dec. 1841. (I have worked hard to search for Mayo Payne with little result. This is the first time I’ve seen Nathaniel and Mayo together. It appears, at this point, that this Nathaniel Mayo Paine is the same person as the Mayo Payne I have been searching for. Jennifer Payne Guarino) 25 March 1846 “between Thomas Paine of the Town of Chazy in the County of Clinton and State of New York and Sarah (Sally later in the document) his wife of the first and one Thomas Paine Jr. of the same place” (I believe Thomas Paine Jr. is one of 3 sons of Thomas and Sally. Jennifer Payne Guarino) 5 October 1858 “Nicholas Wells of the town of Altona County of Clinton and State of New York of the first part and Mayo Paine of the same place of the second…”(County Historian believes this may have been timber land). (Mayo Paine/Payne married Matilda Wells strongly suggesting Nicholas Wells may have been a relative. Jennifer Payne Guarino) 17 May 1859 “between Thomas Paine Jr. of the Town of Chazy in the County of Clinton and State of New York of the first part and Jason Paine of the said Town of Chazy of the second part.” 12 June 1860 “between Asa Stiles and Laura Stiles his wife of the town of Chazy…and Matilda Paine of the town of Altona

Greetings Payne List buddies, Not sure I've posted that my gedcom is up on WorldConnect at: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=genjen (search Paine and Payne...) I'm especially interested if anyone has a Nathaniel Mayo Payne/Paine in their files. The person I'm searching for was b. 1818 (poss Altona, Clinton Co. NY). - died 1905 Beekmantown, Clinton Co., NY. PARENTS: Thomas (b. 1781 - d. 1863) and Sally Paine b. 1781 - d. 1859) children: Amanda b. 1807 (m. Lorenzo Atwood), Thomas b. 1813, Jason b. 1815, and (Nathaniel) Mayo b. 1818. From a Poor House intake interview in 1905, an elderly Mayo Payne, states his parents were from "Harford, NY." There is a Harford, in Cortland County, NY. Harford, Cortland County is a town next to Caroline, Tompkins County, NY, where I know many Paines/Paynes settled. Can anybody make a connection? Jennifer Payne Guarino jguarino@mindspring.com Brentwood, TN

Hi There, I belong to MANY, MANY e-mail lists. I get about 200 pieces of mail a day. This morning my mother detected the KAK worm in mail I sent to her. I check my files and there the nasty thing was. I had no clue, except that I had been getting some odd errors when I turned on the computer each day. I had just been monkeying around with files, so I figured I'd goofed something up. The KAK file was dated 3 days ago. I don't know if that is the date it was sent or when it was opened or when it began it's nasty business in my e-mail. I had sent my folks e-mail yesterday, but they don't think their protector found anything. I have had to reboot my entire system. It's taken me the entire day to save my files and it will take me much of tomorrow to get things back to normal. I just wanted you to know that I picked this worm up somewhere. You might want to check for files that are called KAK. You don't have to open an attachment to get this bug. It just happens and you don't even know it. I purchased a virus detector BEFORE I came back on. I got new mail and the nasty virus was on two pieces of new mail. I'm glad I bought the protector, or I'd have it again! Sincerely, Sandie

Jan. 26, 2001 Hi, I am not a Payne myself but am helping another relative. My grandmother's sister married a Payne, so that is who we are looking for. Patty Gray (born KY or TN 1884) married @1903 WILLIAM PAYNE (born August 1883, place unknown, family unknown). He worked for "the railroad" (probably the Southern) as did many of my relatives, from KY to AL & GA. William died in October, 1939, buried Montgomery, AL. Patty (later moved to FL) died 1963, buried Montgomery, AL. William & Patty had two children, Martha (1905) and Frances (1908), born either Montgomery or Birmingham, AL. Also moved to FL. MARTHA ADELIA PAYNE FRANCES ALINE PAYNE more info available Sincerely, Annabel S., Michigan

Dear Listers: I am new to the list. Looking for information on Chesley J. Payne and his wife Martha A. D. Peoples, married March 1, 1891, in Clay County, Alabama. Thanks Janice Hydock

I am looking for parents and ancestors of Alice Payne born about 1469 Gloucestshire, Eng. She married James Atwood who was born abt 1465 Gloucestshire, Eng. They had a daughter Margaret who married 1625 to Thomas Hicks. Carolyn

I have a picture of Tillman H. Payne of Ft. Bragg, NC. Also on the back is the name Rosa Roberts. Does anyone know who Tillman is? Thanks Ruth

I am also researching Payne's from the Eastern Shore of MD and VA but do not have your Ronald Francis in my database. I did find that he is buried at Salem Methodist Cemetery in Pocomoke. Also, there is an Ethel M. buried there. Have you checked 1900 census for Accomack and Northampton Counties of VA? You may find his family there, as those two counties are adjacent to Pocomoke, Worcester Co., MD. Good luck, Faye Smith Dan Hawkins wrote: > Greetings, > > I am searching for information about Roland Francis Payne. He was my Great > Grandfather. > > Here is what I have. He was born in Virginia November 12, 1889 and died > October 20, 1919 in Pocomoke City, MD. He married Ethel Mowbray Bonneville > March 23, 1910 in Pocomoke City, MD. > > I cannot find anything at all, does anybody have anything? > > Thanks, > > Dan Hawkins > danhawkins@home.com

Greetings, I am searching for information about Roland Francis Payne. He was my Great Grandfather. Here is what I have. He was born in Virginia November 12, 1889 and died October 20, 1919 in Pocomoke City, MD. He married Ethel Mowbray Bonneville March 23, 1910 in Pocomoke City, MD. I cannot find anything at all, does anybody have anything? Thanks, Dan Hawkins danhawkins@home.com

Robert and Dustin-- The info I sent you was from published books titled "VanBuren County Historical Journal" Volumes X and XI. The columns were written by Landon Medley, a prominent VanBuren County Historian. It goes from Charles Payne Sr. who was in the Rev. War, and died 1838 in Warren Co.,TN. His son John is my 3rd GreatGrandfather. He surveyed/laid out the boundaries of the new VanBuren Co.,TN. A son of Charles Sr., Charles Payne Jr., raised his family in Van Buren Co.,TN.--- His children were by 1st wife Sallie: Elizabeth 1815-Warren Co. Nancy 1817 Warren Co Orlenia 1821 Warren Co. Lewis G. 1822 Warren Co. Mary Ann 1824 Warren Co Sallie 1825-7 Warren Co. John F. 1828 Warren Co.,died after 1898(married 8 Aug.1848-Eva Caroline Martin, born 1828 died 1908,daughter of Stephen and Elizabeth Sowders Martin)Both buried Concrd Cem., Texas Co.,MO. (Note: Book lists many descendants) Children by Charles Jr. 2nd wife Martha Medley: Benjamin Wiley Payne 1834/5 Warren Co. William Riley Payne 1837 Warren Co. Louisa Eliza Payne 1839 Warren Co. Louise Jane Payne 1841 VanBuren Co. Henry C. 1844 VanBuren Co. Joseph Thomas Payne 1845 VanBuren Co. Winfield Scott Payne 12 April 1849 VBCo. Malvina Alice Payne 1851 VBCo. If this doesn't help, let me know. Mamie =================================== From: "ROBERT PAYNE" <PAYNERM@HAL.LAMAR.EDU > Hi Dustin, and Mamie, and List! In reviewing your posting, Dustin, I'm > afraid you may be correct that I have the same information as you. At > first I thought you might be descended from Enos Charles Payne, but he > was one of the sons of Jessie Benjamin and you indicate you are > descended from a brother of Jessie Benjamin. I have the family tree > starting with John F. put together by Perry (my great uncle) and Bernice > Payne. Is this what you have? If not I would like to trade > information. I think the post from Mamie Tate is your best bet. I need > to communicate again with her, myself... > > By the way, there seems to be a discrepancy about the birth dates and > ages of Mamie's John F. Pain(e) and Eavy (Eren?) C. Mart(a)in, and my > John F. Payne and Eva C. Martin. We need to be careful! Maybe Eva and > Eren were sisters? One batch of numbers I have shows that John F. was > born in 1834 and Eva in 1825. Mamie's information is (I think) that > John F. was 22 and Eavy was 21 when they were married in 1848. I think > that's a problem in spite of the names being (almost) right. There were > several John F's about that time. I don't know what information you > have gotten from Mamie or what you already have. Maybe you can shed > some light on this for me. > > Mamie, could you help out here too? I never was able to make firm > contact with the genealogical society that you said had this > information. > > Thanks, Robert Payne

Descendants of John Payne - taken from family bible - just as it appeared 1 John Payne October 15, 1806 - ? ........ 2 James M. Payne October 22, 1827 - ? ................... 3 Andrew Scribner Payne January 22, 1865 Missouri - 1924 Oregon ....................... +Bertina Madge Richardson 1875 California- 1962 California .............................. 4 Alfred Edwin Payne April 13, 1897 - 1971 .................................. +Margaret .............................. *2nd Wife of Alfred Edwin Payne: .................................. +Unknown .............................. *3rd Wife of Alfred Edwin Payne: .................................. +Hannah Marie Tollifson .............................. 4 Doretha Dale Payne November 14, 1899 - 1973 .................................. +Everett D. Terry 1901 - ......................................... 5 Everett D. "Murphy" Terry 1927 - 1960 ......................................... 5 John D. Terry 1929 - .............................. 4 Lester Monroe Payne August 25, 1904 - 1965 .............................. 4 George Elwyn Payne February 7, 1917 Oregon - 1976 California .................................. +Marilyn Dorothy Soelberg 1924 - Montana Does anyone have any information on any of these PAYNE's? I am helping a friend to do his Payne family tree so these are his ancestors. Too bad there are no birth places listed on the earlier ones. Shane Oxley California

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Not that I've come across. One of the biggest problems we've had with our Paynes is that birth certificates were the exception rather than the rule. We know nothing about any siblings for the Chauncy Paynes, and little about the descendents. They supposedly came from Missouri to Arkansas to OK to Texas. Michelle Kelley wrote: > > do you have JOHN F PAYNE > MARRIED FANNIE PAYNE

We have been completely unable to trace our Paynes back farther than 4 generations, but we do have that my husband's grandfather, Cassius M. Payne (b. 1888) and his wife Ollie Chandler, were married in Lickin (g?) Mo. Wondered if there was a connection with your Paynes. Cassius's father was Chauncy W. Payne, b. 27 Jan 1863(m. Sarah Louise Brackett), whose father was Chauncy Payne b. around 1840 or so. Have you run across these in your research? ROBERT PAYNE wrote: > > Hi Dustin, and Mamie, and List! In reviewing your posting, Dustin, I'm > afraid you may be correct that I have the same information as you. At > first I thought you might be descended from Enos Charles Payne, but he > was one of the sons of Jessie Benjamin and you indicate you are > descended from a brother of Jessie Benjamin. I have the family tree > starting with John F. put together by Perry (my great uncle) and Bernice > Payne. Is this what you have? If not I would like to trade > information. I think the post from Mamie Tate is your best bet. I need > to communicate again with her, myself... > > By the way, there seems to be a discrepancy about the birth dates and > ages of Mamie's John F. Pain(e) and Eavy (Eren?) C. Mart(a)in, and my > John F. Payne and Eva C. Martin. We need to be careful! Maybe Eva and > Eren were sisters? One batch of numbers I have shows that John F. was > born in 1834 and Eva in 1825. Mamie's information is (I think) that > John F. was 22 and Eavy was 21 when they were married in 1848. I think > that's a problem in spite of the names being (almost) right. There were > several John F's about that time. I don't know what information you > have gotten from Mamie or what you already have. Maybe you can shed > some light on this for me. > > Mamie, could you help out here too? I never was able to make firm > contact with the genealogical society that you said had this > information. > > Thanks, Robert Payne > > FYI here is one of my old posts to clarify the discussion: > > Start of clip: > > Here is what I have on John F. Payne and Eva C. > Martin: > He and Eva were both born in TN (I don't have the county, but I > might > be able to find out from a great aunt). He was born in 1834, she in > 1825. I don't know John F's date of death, but Eva died in 1908. They > are both buried in Concord Cemetery near Licking, Missouri as are their > son Jesse Benjamin and his wife Frances C. (Thornton). John F. and Eva > had at least eight children. Besides Jesse (my great, great > grandfather), the only other name I have is Charles. Apparently my > great uncle, who put together the information I have, was in touch with > Charles' descendants. Other information about John F.: At age 30 he > enlisted in the 48th. Regt. Missouri Inf. Vols. on Aug. 16, 1864 at > Salem, Missouri. He was a 1st Corporal in Company D, under Captain > Kennemore. He mustered in on Sept. 16, 1864 at Rolla, Missouri, and > mustered out March 23, 1865. Records of the descendants of his son > Charles indicate that John F. was a preacher and played violin and > trumpet (for what that information may be worth). > I have information on Jesse Benjamin (12-10-1854) and his > descendants, but I guess that's too "current" for anyone to be > interested in! > > End of clip. > > Dustin wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > My great great great grandfather was Charles Payne, > > son of John F. Payne and brother of Jessie Benjamin > > Payne. I came across a posting of yours on the > > internet today and was hoping you may have more > > information for me. I received a packet from Glenn > > Payne of Gunter, Texas, and judging by what you wrote > > in your online posting (which mentioned that John was > > a preacher and played the violin and trumpet), you may > > have the same information as me. The packet gives a > > lot of information about Jessie, but little about > > Charles. My great great grandparents were John > > Stephen Payne and Lillian Frances Payne, and they may > > have been cousins. John's father was William (Billy) > > Payne and Lillian's parents were Charles Payne and > > Leta Nichols. Billy and Charlie may have been > > brothers, which would mean that they are both children > > of John F. Payne, but we're not sure. Can you provide > > any information at all about this side of the family? > > Thank you very much! > > > > -Dustin Ballard > > Denton, Texas > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > > http://photos.yahoo.com/

Hi Dustin, and Mamie, and List! In reviewing your posting, Dustin, I'm afraid you may be correct that I have the same information as you. At first I thought you might be descended from Enos Charles Payne, but he was one of the sons of Jessie Benjamin and you indicate you are descended from a brother of Jessie Benjamin. I have the family tree starting with John F. put together by Perry (my great uncle) and Bernice Payne. Is this what you have? If not I would like to trade information. I think the post from Mamie Tate is your best bet. I need to communicate again with her, myself... By the way, there seems to be a discrepancy about the birth dates and ages of Mamie's John F. Pain(e) and Eavy (Eren?) C. Mart(a)in, and my John F. Payne and Eva C. Martin. We need to be careful! Maybe Eva and Eren were sisters? One batch of numbers I have shows that John F. was born in 1834 and Eva in 1825. Mamie's information is (I think) that John F. was 22 and Eavy was 21 when they were married in 1848. I think that's a problem in spite of the names being (almost) right. There were several John F's about that time. I don't know what information you have gotten from Mamie or what you already have. Maybe you can shed some light on this for me. Mamie, could you help out here too? I never was able to make firm contact with the genealogical society that you said had this information. Thanks, Robert Payne FYI here is one of my old posts to clarify the discussion: Start of clip: Here is what I have on John F. Payne and Eva C. Martin: He and Eva were both born in TN (I don't have the county, but I might be able to find out from a great aunt). He was born in 1834, she in 1825. I don't know John F's date of death, but Eva died in 1908. They are both buried in Concord Cemetery near Licking, Missouri as are their son Jesse Benjamin and his wife Frances C. (Thornton). John F. and Eva had at least eight children. Besides Jesse (my great, great grandfather), the only other name I have is Charles. Apparently my great uncle, who put together the information I have, was in touch with Charles' descendants. Other information about John F.: At age 30 he enlisted in the 48th. Regt. Missouri Inf. Vols. on Aug. 16, 1864 at Salem, Missouri. He was a 1st Corporal in Company D, under Captain Kennemore. He mustered in on Sept. 16, 1864 at Rolla, Missouri, and mustered out March 23, 1865. Records of the descendants of his son Charles indicate that John F. was a preacher and played violin and trumpet (for what that information may be worth). I have information on Jesse Benjamin (12-10-1854) and his descendants, but I guess that's too "current" for anyone to be interested in! End of clip. Dustin wrote: > Hello, > > My great great great grandfather was Charles Payne, > son of John F. Payne and brother of Jessie Benjamin > Payne. I came across a posting of yours on the > internet today and was hoping you may have more > information for me. I received a packet from Glenn > Payne of Gunter, Texas, and judging by what you wrote > in your online posting (which mentioned that John was > a preacher and played the violin and trumpet), you may > have the same information as me. The packet gives a > lot of information about Jessie, but little about > Charles. My great great grandparents were John > Stephen Payne and Lillian Frances Payne, and they may > have been cousins. John's father was William (Billy) > Payne and Lillian's parents were Charles Payne and > Leta Nichols. Billy and Charlie may have been > brothers, which would mean that they are both children > of John F. Payne, but we're not sure. Can you provide > any information at all about this side of the family? > Thank you very much! > > -Dustin Ballard > Denton, Texas > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/

Oops, I'm sorry, I forgot to give you the URL to access my Paynes... Access my Gedcom at: http://wc.rootsweb.com/~genjen To start at my earliest Paine ancestor go directly to: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=genjen&id=I1388 I've finally uploaded my Gedcom to World Connect and you may take a look. Most of my Paine/Paynes are in Clinton County, NY (northeastern corner of NY, next to VT and Quebec). Check listings under Pane, Paine, Payn, etc. Jennifer Payne Guarino Rootsweb and WorldConnect's "genjen" jguarino@mindspring.com

I've finally uploaded my Gedcom to World Connect and you may take a look. Most of my Paine/Paynes are in Clinton County, NY (northeastern corner of NY, next to VT and Quebec). Check listings under Pane, Paine, Payn, etc. Jennifer Payne Guarino Rootsweb and WorldConnect's "genjen" jguarino@mindspring.com

I just came across a Isaac B. Payne in a "Introduction to Local History" of the Moreau, Northumberland, and Wilton areas of NYS (I think that may encompass Saratoga and Washington Counties.) by Oliver W. Winch. Page 63 lists Isaac B. Payne as one of the early settlers to the area before the American Revolution. Page 74: Isaac B. Payne is listed as Supervisor (for the Town of Northumberland?) 1811-1813. Pg. 87: George Payne listed as Supervisor for the Town of Moreau 1847. I am interested in following this person's ancestors and descendants since my Paynes MAY have been in nearby Hartford, NY at one time - or it was Harford, NY in a little further distant NY county. Kindest regards, Jennifer Payne Guarino jguarino@mindspring.com

I have data on this Payne family. I have to go to the Dr. right now, but will send this family when I get back! Mamie ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Payne" <otime@hotmail.com> > Can anyone help Dustin? > Reply to him at dustball@mail.utexas.edu > David =============================> > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Dustin > Reply-To: dustball@mail.utexas.edu > To: otime@hotmail.com > Subject: Payne Genealogy > Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:13:23 -0800 (PST) > Hello, > My g-g-g-g-grandparents were John F. Payne and Eva C. > Martin. They had a child named William (Billy) Green > Payne, who had a son named John Stephen Payne. John > married Lillian Frances Payne (a possible cousin or > 2nd cousin) who was the daughter of Charles Stevens > Payne. I'm trying to straighten out this side of the > family tree and I came across your name. Hopefully > you can help me. Thank you very much! > Dustin Ballard > Denton, Texas

I am new to this list and helping a friend search for his PAYNE roots. His grandfather was Andrew Scribner Payne. Does anyone have any information on this man? He was born about 1873 possibly in Missouri and died about 1924 in Ashland, Jackson, Oregon. Shane