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I recently obtained copies of two obituaries that have corrected some of the information I had posted recently. My grandfather was Russell Bernard Payne, b.03/01/1911, Loudoun County, VA, d.09/17/1963, Fairfax County, VA, living in Centreville, VA at time of death. His father's name was Bernard F. Payne. It listed his siblings as: William Payne Susie Shutts Pauline Shutts Mabel Tapp Ada Carbaugh Helen Buttery Hazel Cole Irene Bridge Ettie Owens The other obituary was for his sister Mabel Hannan Payne Beach (?2nd marriage). It is from the Loudoun Times-Mirror dated Thursday, 06/14/1984. It states Mabel, age 70, formerly of Leesburg,VA and a resident of Englewood, CA died 06/08/1984 in Culver City, CA. She is survived by seven sisters: Susie Shutts Helen Buttery Pauline Shutts Ada Carbaugh Ettie Fox (?2nd marriage) Hazel Cole Irene Bridge I am really interested in finding out more about Bernard F. Payne and his wife and parents. If anyone sees a connection, please contact me at uni62corn@hotmail.com. Thank you, Lori Craiger _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi, I made a page with a few pictures of my grandfather, CHARLES CLAUDE PAYNE, on the offhand chance someone would recognize them or him. (While we're trying other means of acquiring info on him) Please take a moment to look at my page, and see if you recognize anything in one of the photos. http://www.geocities.com/mrs_lee69/ Although we haven't gotten grandmother to part with the "pentagon" photo long enough for us to copy it, we're working on that. As soon as I have a copy, I'll add it to the page in hopes that someone recognizes it. Thanks for reading this! Tahmarrah _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi, I made a page with a few pictures of my grandfather, CHARLES CLAUDE PAYNE, on the offhand chance someone would recognize them or him. (While we're trying other means of acquiring info on him) Please take a moment to look at my page, and see if you recognize anything in one of the photos. http://www.geocities.com/mrs_lee69/ Although we haven't gotten grandmother to part with the "pentagon" photo long enough for us to copy it, we're working on that. As soon as I have a copy, I'll add it to the page in hopes that someone recognizes it. Thanks for reading this! Tahmarrah _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Kay, I am not sure that I have anything that will help. I think the Jessee Payne, Jr. was problem from a line I have some information on at: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5273/jesseep.html I also have a file on the Looney family that married into my Payne family but have no Eleazer Payne listed anywhere. Try: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5273/looney.htm Other than that I am sorry but I can't be of more help. Let me know if you see anything that may look familiar. Joe Payne Knoxville, TN -- Joe Payne Knoxville, TN __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Could you send us some dates? Mamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Kelley" <standing1fist@webtv.net> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 5:08 AM Subject: Re: PAYNE-D Digest V01 #56 > im stuck on john f payne last known murdered in fresno ca born tenn >

im stuck on john f payne last known murdered in fresno ca born tenn

Hello fellow researcher, I am researching my family tree. I am looking for my grandfather and his parents. He is my father's father. His name was Russell Bernard Payne. He was born 03/01/1911 in Loundoun County, VA and died 09/1963 in an ambulance on the way to Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, VA. He worked for the old Washington and Old Dominion railway as an engineer in the late 1940's and early 1950's. Then he was a driver for the State of VA. His parents were: Bernard Payne, b.unknown and Bertie ?, b.unknown. His siblings were: William Payne,b.unknown, who spent most of his life in and out of prison, at one time was incarcerated at Camp 30 in Fairfax, VA Ada Payne Carbaugh,b.unknown, m.Willis Carbaugh Irene Payne Bridges,b.unknown,m.Henry Bridges,still living Pauleen Payne, b.unknown Eadie "Duckie" Payne Fox, b. unknown Susie Payne Shutts, b.uknown, m.Frank Shutts Eileen Payne Buttery, b.unknown, m.Frank Buttery,Sr. Hazel Payne Cole, b.unknown, m.Arthur Cole Mabel Payne Tapp, b.unknown He was married to my grandmother Catherine Virginia Pullen and they had 4 children: Russell Edward Payne, Sr., b.09/22/1940 (my father) Joan Payne Payne(no relation) Bertie Payne Harding Bonnie Payne Harding My father also said that his dad was married before my grandmother and that they had one daughter. My father would be very interested in learning about his half-sister. He doesn't know her name or her mother's name because my grandparents never talked about them. Anyone who thinks they might have a connection, please contact me at uni62corn@hotmail.com Thank you, Lori Craiger _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Is anyone here researching the Australian PAYNEs? or is everyone from the states? I am researching Job PAYNE born abt 1840 from Wiltshire, I think its Sutton Mandeville, Wiltshire and his mothers name is Amelia. Amelia later married Mr Charles BATTEN. Does anyone have any connections to these people? warmest wishes from a getting cold Lavinia NSW, Australia

I am researching the Berry Payne who resided in Lawrence County Alabama 1860-1870. He had son's named James, George, and Andrew. Andrew married Caroline Stanley and remained in Lawrence county while the others moved into Tennessee. Andrew's oldest son Wash A. Payne married Nancy Letson in Lawrence County Alabama. Anyone with info on this family please contact me at Payne52@msn.com. Larry Payne

Hi Listers, I am curious to know whether anyone knows, or wants to know, the maiden name of Tabitha, the widow of Andrew Holmes of Lexington, KY (ca. 1800), who married James Orlando Payne. This couple is mentioned in "Paynes of Virginia", but very briefly. Rick Sherman Kensington, CA

Hi, This is all I have regarding my grandfather. Hopefully, someone has seen one of the names during their search. Thank you, Tahmarrah. CHARLES CLAUDE PAYNE (son of) b. 10-Aug-1919 (possibly IL) d. 1974 CO m. Ruth K. Holloway *child* Charlotte Claudette Payne ______ PAYNE b. ? d. ? m. Myrtle Scalf b. ? d. ? *KNOWN children* Myrtle Woodrow Charles _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I am searching for information on the parents of William Franklin, J. T. , and Columbia Payne. Possibly more children that have not been located. William Franklin was either born in Gwinnett County, Georgia, or Etowah County Alabama. He was born 9/17/1861 and died 7/22/1942. He is buried in Gilmer, Upshur County, Tx. He married Gerogia Ann Huff in 1884 in Gadsden, Etowah County, Alabama. All their children were born in Gadsden, Alabama. His marriage certificate was signed by H. L. Payne. I have been unable to locate info on H. L. Payne or to determine if this was his father. Anyone with information on this family please respond. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

When George Payne and Rachel Cowgill's certificate of removal was received at Hopewell on 3rd of 11th mo. 1777, it listed children Rachel, Martha, Sarah, Alice and George. They had come from Deer Creek Monthly Meeting in Harford Co., Md. I have not checked the Deer Creek meeting records. The first five children of George and Rachel had their births recorded at Nottingham MM in Cecil Co., Md.: i Hannah b. 14th of 12th mo 1753; married Robert Heslett ii Jesse b. 6th of 7th mo 1755; married Mary Sarah Tucker, according to the Ancestral File (AFN: 11V3-3GL) iii Henry b. 5th of 3rd mo 1756; married Mary Elizabeth Kurtz, according to Ancestral File submission of Bob L. Anderson, who gives birthplace of these children as Fawn Twp., York, Pa. (AFN: 17L9-5ZG) iv Joseph b. 11th of 1st mo 1758, v Mary, b. 6th of 11th mo 1758; married Benjamin Manifold; d. 1826. Of the other children, we know that vi Rachel married Abraham McCleary contrary to discipline in Frederick Co., Va., 6th of 5th mo 1782; vii Martha married Abraham Smith at Hopewell 16th of 7th mo 1783; she died after her husband. viii Sarah married John Squibb or Squibbs contrary to discipline 7th of 5th mo 1787 in Frederick Co., Va. ix Alice married Levi Smith, son of Joseph Smith and Rachel Beals, and hence Abraham Smith's brother, 4th of 6th mo 1789 at Hopewell; she died at Hopewell before 1812; x George Payne, Jr. was a witness to his sister Alice's marriage, and he was disowned by Hopewell MM 1st of 3rd mo 1802, no reason given. He married Elizabeth Dillon of North Carolina. George Payne and Rachel Cowgill were married at Nottingham MM in Cecil Co., Md. on the 26th of 3rd mo. 1752 (New Style), at "a public mtg of sd people at James King's." Both were listed as being of West Nottingham Preparatory Meeting. My source is a typescript of Nottingham MM records: "Maryland Quaker Records: Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil County" that I found at the Salt Lake library. George was the son of Josiah, deceased, and Martha; Rachel was the daughter of Henry of Drumsmore [sic; should be Drumore] Twp., Lancaster Co., Pa. The name is written Payne in George Payne's marriage certificate; in the Nottingham Men's Minutes (where his father and brothers are concerned) it is written Paine, and in the Women's Minutes it is written Pain. Comments William Wade Hinshaw: "the correct name is doubtless Payne" (initials WWH follow the discussion of these variations). George's will, dated 23 January 1799, was filed in Berkeley County, Va. I do not have a copy, only an abstract; I need more information about George while he was living there in the 1780s-1790s. George's parents were Josiah Payne or Paine, and Martha Shepard. The birth and death records of New Garden MM (Chester Co., Pa.) list their children as follows: i Josiah (Jos. ) b. 3rd day 8th mo 1716; he was disowned 1758 by West Nottingham. ii Mary, b. 7th day 2nd mo 1718; iii Matthew b. 20th day 3rd mo 1719, married out of union, as reported in West Nottingham PM: he "hath let out his affections to a woman not of our Society & is m to her by a Priest;" he at first told the committee to "do as they please" about disowning him; the matter rested until 16th of 6th mo 1753, when he made acknowledgement, which was accepted as satisfaction. iv Alice b. 22nd of 10th mo 1720 married 1741/2 Henry Cowgill at Nottingham MM; she was his second wife (Mary Boulton was his first). Rachel Cowgill, wife of George Payne, was a daughter of Henry Cowgill by his first marriage; v Martha b 10th of 10th mo 1722 married Eleazer Cowgill 1739 at Nottingham MM; Eleazer was a son of John Cowgill and his second wife Rachel Baker (John and Rachel were Rachel Cowgill Payne's grandparents); vi Elizabeth b. 5th of 12th mo 1724; she was reported 18th of 7th mo 1752 by West Nottingham PM as having married out of union to Isaac Coulson, "and it is supposed they are guilty of fornication;" both were disowned the 21st of 10th mo 1752; vii Hannah (also called Ruth?) b. 27th 2nd mo 1726; married out of union to a Savage; at this time she lived in York Co., Pa., as is stated by the West Nottingham PM minutes 21st 8th mo 1756, regarding the appointment of William Cox to visit and counsel her; viii George, b 4th of 10th mo 1728, married Rachel Cowgill, daughter of Henry of Drumore Twp. ix Joseph b. after 1730? was disowned for joining the Army to fight Indians 15th of 5th mo 1756. Josiah Payne was a taxable at West Nottingham in 1718, having property valued at 16 pounds, on which he paid 4 shillings and threepence per pound. When Josiah bought land in 1726, Joseph Kirkbride, a prominent Friend from New Jersey, was referred to as his "kinsman" (email 4-20-99 from Thomas Hamm tomh@earlham.edu). Meldrum's early New Jersey church records refer to a Joseph Kirkbride, but indicate he was a resident of Bucks Co., Pa., and a "sometime" resident of New Jersey. So far no connection between Josiah Payne and Joseph Kirkbride is known. Josiah was appointed overseer for West Nottingham Preparatory Meeting, 19th of 4th mo 1731; he served in this capacity until his death, which was before 1752. On 19th of 6th mo 1738 West Nottingham PM reported that Josiah had a lapse in conduct: he had been "overtaken with strong drink, and did both sing and dance." He acknowledged his misconduct and it was accepted 21st of 8th mo 1738. The History of York County, Pennsylvania, in mentioning Josiah Payne and Martha Shepard, reports that both were "natives of England," and that Martha was a Quaker minister. William Sheppard, William Sheppard, Jr., and Henry Cowgill were witnesses to George Payne's 1799 will; these Sheppards are the only potential Shepard relatives of Martha's I have found. According to Ancestral File submitter Bob L. Anderson (618 East 10th, Sedalia, MO 65301) Martha was born in Holland ca. 1690-1692. Martha's Ancestral File no. is 11V3-BRN. Yours faithfully, Margaret Robe Summitt Everett, WA

22 May 2001 St. Rita of Cascia Dear Kenneth, Jesse Payne Sr. was born 6 July 1755 and birth was recorded in the records of Nottingham Monthly Meeting, Cecil Co. MD or Lancaster Co., PA (it was right on the border). He and Mary Sarah Tucker were married in 1777 at Darlington, Harford, Md. The Ancestral File says Mary Sarah Tucker was born 1759 in Tennessee but I suspect she was not born in Tennessee. There was a son Jesse Jr. b. 1778 and a son William b. about 1787, and I think there must have been more children. The name Solomon does not occur among the Paynes in Washington Co., Tn. that I am researching. Nor is there a connection with New England. These Paynes came from Pennsylvania and before that from England. Yours faithfully, Margaret Robe Summitt

21 May 2001 St. Gondric of Finchdale Dear Kenneth, Take a look at the Ancestral File at www.familysearch.org Jesse Payne, Jr.'s AFN number is AFN: 11V3-CB5. The name Eleazer rang a bell with me since my Paynes from Washington Co., TN are descended from George Payne and Rachel Cowgill, and Eleazer is a common given name among the Cowgills. This family is Quaker. I don't see the name Eleazer among the descendants of George and Rachel given by Jesse Payne (1779-1865) at age 81--which document arrived in the mail today. It mentions a Jesse Payne who m. Sarah Tucker and who is thought to have gone South. Yours faithfully, Margaret Robe Summitt

Hi, folks - I am redirecting the following message to the list in case anyone has connections. If you do, contact please contact Brenda - not me (I do not have the obit). Danny Payne ****************************************************************************************** I am not a subscriber, I have The Redwood Gazette Newspaper from Redwood Falls, Mn. June 5, 1945. In this paper, there is a very long obit. for Lt. Harrison Payne born in Belview, Mn. 1918 He is the SON OF, Mr. and Mrs. Lucien Payne of Belview, HUSBAND OF, Greta Mae O'Dell. BROTHER TO, (Elizabeth) Mrs.Rudolh Hagen, and a BROTHER TO, Melville. If this is your family and would like this obit, write to Brenda at SCHOTTSZEEa@webtv.net

I am trying to find the parents of my GG Grandfather Eleazer Payne married (Elizabeth Looney )Payne. Eleazer was born in Hawkins Cty, TN in abt 1808 his parents are unknown. He lived two doors from Jessee Jr Payne in the Washington Cty Census 1830, he also show in Jackson Cty , Alabama census 1820. His wife and him had ten children, all died except two daughters and one son William. The names of the two daughters are unknown. William was born in Greene cty, TN July 15, l830 and moved to St Clair Cty, Mo., where he lived until his death. He married Mahala Sueiter 12 Nov 1848 in Greene Cty, TN. Any and all help will be appreciated.

Jimmy Payne Some of the Christian names seem familiar. Can you give some indication where your PAYNE/PAINE family lived? This is an international list. I am looking for a family from Great Addington, NTH, ENG whose surname alternated between PAINE and PAYNE until it seemed to settle down to PAYNE. Jim Jim and Bev Payne jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz

Ms Toney: My ggreat grandfather was named William Edward Payne. He was born around 1828 in Jefferson County W.Va.. Could there be any connection? As far as I know he lived there all his life. Sincerely, P. Gantt