I have a Johnstone in my file and these may be connected to your family. If so please let me know as I think I cont this line. Descendants of * Johnstone Generation No. 1 1. *1 JOHNSTONE He married * JANE. Children of * JOHNSTONE and * JANE are: i. JANE2 JOHNSTONE, m. JOHN AWBREY. ii. ELIZABETH JOHNSTONE, *, b. Abt. 1665, Westmoreland. Co. VA; d. Abt. 1698, Westmoreland. Co. VA; m. JOHN PAYNE, (2), *, Bef. 1676, Westmoreland Co. VA; b. Aft. 1651, Westmoreland. Co. VA; d. 1698, Westmoreland Co. VA. Notes for ELIZABETH JOHNSTONE, *: 4 Issue of John Payne and Elizabeth Awbrey/Aubrey (Source: Indenture between William Payne Jr. and Francis Aubrey dated July 25, 1722 ) Jane Martin's will Jane MARTIN, widow, dated 2 Feb. 1676, Copeley Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA. She says, "Unto my daughter Jane JOHNSTONE my plantation...If it should please God to take from this life my daughter Jane before she is marryed or comes of age or dieing without issue, the estate to fall into the possession of John AWBREY and James Gaynor. Unto my daughter Elizabeth PAIN to the value of fourty shillings...John AWBREY being a liver att my house shall there remain without opposition during the finishing of this crope (sic) or longer as he may find to his conveniencey and not to admitte of any person to dwell upon the plantation without consent from what estate I have willed unto my daughter Jane. (signed) Jane (hF) MARTIN." Proved 16 May 1677. "John Payne Jr. was married before 1676, because at that date his mother-in-law, Jane Martin, left a will naming her daughter as "Elizabeth Pain." This woman Elizabeth is often called Elizabeth Awbrey, but that is incorrect. The confusion comes in because Elizabeth had a sister named Jane who married John Awbrey, a man old enough to be the girls' father. With a mother called Jane & daughter called Jane, a man much older than his wife, and the fact that John Awbrey was mentioned in mother Jane's will--all that taken together resulted in an incorrect assignment of John & Jane Awbrey as Elizabeth's parents. However, mother Jane Martin's will makes it clear that her daughter Elizabeth is married to a "Pain" and that daughter Jane Johnstone is underage. (John Awbrey appears to be an overseer or something to that effect, and is mentioned in the will. His exact relationship to the family is unclear, but he is obviously not Elizabeth's father.) Assuming that married daughter Elizabeth is older than underage daughter Jane Johnstone, I have also *assumed* that Elizabeth was a Johnstone (rather than a Martin). (See more of Jane Martin's will at the bottom of the page. I can find only an excerpted will at the moment. I'll try to find the full document later.) Mother Jane Martin was evidently married at least twice, earlier to a Johnstone & last to a Martin, who left her a widow. But neither of her husbands is known, nor is her maiden name known. I have both John Payne Jr. and Elizabeth Johnstone Payne dieing c 1698, though I have no reason given as to why I recorded that. The only two children I have for them are "our" William & brother John. The records Shawn sent (below) indicate these realtionships. ---record--- 1. "Payne Records from Westmoreland County, Communicated by Mrs. J. C. Pollard Wesmoreland County. Book 7, page 354 Indenture between William Payne Jr. and Francis Aubrey July 25, 1722. For 100 acres, part of a patent granted to John Payne, grandfather to the aforesaid William J. for 400 acres, and by the said John's will bequeathed to John Payne, father to the said William Payne Jr., and by his last will and testament given to his two sons John Payne and William Payne Jr." ---end--- (I know I have at least abstracts of these wills somewhere. I have looked for them for a while now, but still can't come up with them. I'll keep looking & send them out asap.) The Francis Awbrey mentioned above is the son of John & Jane (Johnstone) Awbrey," John Wilmont Notes for JOHN PAYNE, (2), *: 4 Issue of John Payne and Elizabeth Awbrey/Aubrey (Source: Indenture between William Payne Jr. and Francis Aubrey dated July 25, 1722 ) "John left a will dated 1697 naming w. Elizabeth, and sons John and William. She was Elizabeth Murphy, dau. of Cornelius." p.3 "Paynes of Virginia" by Brooke Payne Westmoreland County, Virginia Will Books Payne, John 4 October 1697-23 - February 1697 Wife Elizabeth one-third of my estate. Sons John and William residue of estate. More About JOHN PAYNE and ELIZABETH JOHNSTONE: Marriage: Bef. 1676, Westmoreland Co. VA > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:55:22 EDT > From: BandB4951@aol.com > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: 1600's/early 1700's Northumberland/Westmoreland Co., VA > > Hello, > > So far, I have had no luck finding any information regarding Lewis > LEWIS who > would have been born sometime in the mid/late 1600's to abt. 1700 > in Virginia > probably in Northumberland County, Virginia or could have been born > > elsewhere, perhaps in Wales or England. > > He married Elizabeth JOHNSTONE whom I believe is related to the > Jane > JOHNSTONE, (daughter of James JOHNSTONE,) who married James LAMKIN > and they > are related to a John PAYNE, Jr.. Is this the son of John PAYNE, > born: abt. > 1615 in Yorkshire, England, who immigrated to Rappahannock, VA and > married > Margrett/Margaret ?/ROBINSON?, (dau of Richard ROBINSON prob. who > was early > immigrant to Tidewater area,) whose daughter, Margaret PAYNE > married 1st > husband, John JENNINGS, and whose 2nd husband was Christopher > EDRINGTON, Sr.? > > Trying to find out whether or not this Lewis LEWIS mentioned below > is the > brother of David LEWIS whom my husband appears to descend from and > John > "Councillor" LEWIS from whom it is believed that I descend in my > paternal > lineage. > > In the information below it shows these lines connecting to my COX > lineage > with Hannah COX and also an AUBREY/AWBREY line and one possible > MURPHY line > that I don't know if I directly descend from or not. And there is > a Jane > MARTIN in connection with this information below that I am also > trying to > sort out where she and the Elizabeth PAYNE aka Elizabeth JOHNSTONE > fits in to > this immediate LEWIS - JOHNSTONE - LAMKIN family group that also > connects to > some of my other family lines as well. > > Looking forward to someone who has more clarification on some of > this > information especially regarding who the parents of this Lewis > LEWIS were. > > Thank you. (See the following family tree information.) > > Sincerely, > > Bellinda Myrick - Barnett > > Mary LEWIS > ....Born: prob. abt./bet. 1720 - 1725? > ....Death : 30 JAN 1758 > ........Virginia Colonial Abstracts - > ........Northumberland County (1661-1810) > ........VOL 3: Record of Deaths > ....Father: Lewis LEWIS/Lewis ap Lewis Lewis > ....Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE > md: > Lewis LAMKIN > .....Birth : 19 MAR 1718/19 > .....Death : DEC 1769 Northumberland County, VA > .....Father: James LAMKIN > .....Mother: Jane JOHNSTONE > Children: > (1) Lewis Abb LAMKIN > (2) Mary "Molly" LAMKIN > (3) Peter LAMKIN > (4) James LAMKIN > > ************************** > > I think this Elizabeth JOHNSTONE is related to Jane JOHNSTONE > below: > > Jane JOHNSTONE > .....Father: James JOHNSTONE > md: James LAMKIN > ............Birth : 1675 > ............Death : 1736 > ............Father: George LAMKIN > ............Mother: Hannah COX > ...................(related somehow to Vincent COX, some think > ....................that she was a daughter by an earlier marriage > ....................as she is not mentioned in his will but did > ....................receive land to her and husband, George LAMKIN > ....................from Vincent COX.) > Children: > George LAMKIN > Elinor LAMKIN > Mary LAMKIN > Lewis LAMKIN > James LAMKIN > Jane LAMKIN > .....Birth : 1724 > John LAMKIN > .....Birth : 1728 > Peter LAMKIN > .....Birth : 1730 > Jerimiah LAMKIN > .....Birth : 9 SEP 1732 > Hannah LAMKIN > .....Birth : 21 DEC 1734 > > **************** > > Searching for the parents of: > > Jane JOHNSTONE > ......m bef 1717 Northumberland Co VA > md: James LAMKIN > .............b 1675 > .............d 1736 Nothumberland Co VA > > Elizabeth JOHNSTONE > .......m Lewis ap Lewis Lewis > .............b 30 Sep 1695 > .............d 1736 Richmond Co VA > > ********************* > Name: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE > � Sex: F > � Alias/other Md. name?: Possibly MURPHY > � Birth: ABT. 1665 in Westmoreland. Co. VA > � Death: ABT. 1698 in Westmoreland. Co. VA > � Note: 4 Issue of John PAYNE and Elizabeth AWBREY/AUBREY > Source: > Indenture between William PAYNE, Jr. and Francis AUBREY dated July > 25, 1722 ) > > Jane MARTIN's will > Jane MARTIN, widow, dated 2 Feb. 1676, Copeley Parish, Westmoreland > Co., > VA. > She says, > "Unto my daughter Jane JOHNSTONE my plantation...If it should > please God > to > take from this life my daughter Jane before she is marryed or comes > of > age or > dieing without issue, the estate to fall into the possession of > John > AWBREY > and James Gaynor. Unto my daughter Elizabeth PAIN to the value of > fourty shillings...John AWBREY being a liver att my house shall > there > remain > without opposition during the finishing of this crope (sic) or > longer as > he > may find to his conveniencey and not to admitte of any person to > dwell > upon > the plantation without consent from what estate I have willed unto > my > daughter Jane. (signed) Jane (hF) MARTIN." Proved 16 May 1677. > > "John Payne Jr. was married before 1676, because at that date his > mother-in-law, Jane Martin, left a will naming her daughter as > "Elizabeth > > Pain." This woman Elizabeth is often called Elizabeth Awbrey, but > that is > > incorrect. > The confusion comes in because Elizabeth had a sister named Jane > who > married > John Awbrey, a man old enough to be the girls' father. With a > mother > called > Jane & daughter called Jane, a man much older than his wife, and > the fact > > that John Awbrey was mentioned in mother Jane's will--all that > taken > together > resulted in an incorrect assignment of John & Jane Awbrey as > Elizabeth's > parents. > However, mother Jane Martin's will makes it clear that her daughter > Elizabeth > is married to a "Pain" and that daughter Jane Johnstone is > underage. > (John > Awbrey appears to be an overseer or something to that effect, and > is > mentioned in the will. His exact relationship to the family is > unclear, > but > he is obviously not Elizabeth's father.) Assuming that married > daughter > Elizabeth is older than underage daughter Jane Johnstone, I have > also > *assumed* that Elizabeth was a Johnstone (rather than a Martin). > (See more of Jane Martin's will at the bottom of the page. I can > find > only an > excerpted will at the moment. I'll try to find the full document > later.) > Mother Jane Martin was evidently married at least twice, earlier to > a > Johnstone & last to a Martin, who left her a widow. But neither of > her > husbands is known, nor is her maiden name known. > I have both John Payne Jr. and Elizabeth Johnstone Payne dieing c > 1698, > though I have no reason given as to why I recorded that. The only > two > children I have for them are "our" William & brother John. The > records > Shawn > sent (below) indicate these realtionships. > ---record--- > 1. "Payne Records from Westmoreland County, Communicated by Mrs. J. > C. > Pollard Wesmoreland County. Book 7, page 354 > Indenture between William Payne Jr. and Francis Aubrey July 25, > 1722. For > 100 > acres, part of a > patent granted to John Payne, grandfather to the aforesaid William > J. for > 400 > acres, and by the said > John's will bequeathed to John Payne, father to the said William > Payne > Jr., > and by his last will and > testament given to his two sons John Payne and William Payne Jr." > ---end--- > > (I know I have at least abstracts of these wills somewhere. I have > looked > for > them for a while now, but still can't come up with them. I'll keep > looking & > send them out asap.) > The Francis Awbrey mentioned above is the son of John & Jane > (Johnstone) > Awbrey," John Wilmont > > Father: * JOHNSTONE > Mother: * JANE > > Marriage 1 John PAYNE , (2), * b: AFT. 1651 in Westmoreland. Co. VA > > �Married: BEF. 1676 in Westmoreland Co. VA > > Children > > 1.<Picture: Has children>William PAYNE , II, * b: ABT. 1685 in > Westmoreland > Co. VA2.<Picture: Has no children>John PAYNE , (3) > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:15:41 EDT > From: Nnrecrut@aol.com > To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: 1600's/early 1700's Northumberland/Westmoreland Co., > VA > > In a message dated 9/21/01 11:58:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > BandB4951@aol.com writes: > > > > > > He married Elizabeth JOHNSTONE whom I believe is related to the > Jane > > JOHNSTONE, (daughter of James JOHNSTONE,) who married James > LAMKIN and they > > are related to a John PAYNE, Jr.. Is this the son of John PAYNE, > born: > > abt. > > 1615 in Yorkshire, England, who immigrated to Rappahannock, VA > and married > > Margrett/Margaret ?/ROBINSON?, (dau of Richard ROBINSON prob. who > was early > > immigrant to Tidewater area,) whose daughter, Margaret PAYNE > married 1st > > husband, John JENNINGS, and whose 2nd husband was Christopher > EDRINGTON, > > Sr.? > > > > > > There was a John Payne family in Westmoreland County, VA. which I > have not > been able to link to any of the Payne families of > Westmoreland/Northumberland/Old Rappa Counties. John Payne, Sr. of > Westmoreland married to Millicent was the father of a John and > William Payne. > I believe Elizabeth Payne, daughter of Jane Martin, was the wife of > John > Payne, Jr., son of John Payne and Milicent of Westmoreland Co. I > am > traveling now, but as soon as I am able to get my file on John > Payne's > (Westmoreland Co) I will be glad to send. I believe I have > information on > Elizabeth Payne (daughter of Jane Martin), and will send that info > also. > Nancy Norman ===== David S. Payne in Anderson, SC View my Gedcoms at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My Wife's line: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON, ARENDALE/ARENDELL/ARENDALL, CANADY, CORBIN, COX, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, GILLILAN, HALEY, GORDON, GRAY, HENSON, JAMES, McMILLIAN, McPHERSON, MOODY, NEWTON, PARKER, PASSMORE, PATTERSON, PAYNE, POINDEXTER, REDWINE, REID, ROY, SHIRES, SWANN, WEST, TODD, WHITMIRE, WOODALL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
john paine d.1753 wife Ann, son Thomas of craven co.,nc Does anyone have a family descendancy/ancestry chart for the above Paine??
In a message dated 9/21/01 11:58:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BandB4951@aol.com writes: > > He married Elizabeth JOHNSTONE whom I believe is related to the Jane > JOHNSTONE, (daughter of James JOHNSTONE,) who married James LAMKIN and they > are related to a John PAYNE, Jr.. Is this the son of John PAYNE, born: > abt. > 1615 in Yorkshire, England, who immigrated to Rappahannock, VA and married > Margrett/Margaret ?/ROBINSON?, (dau of Richard ROBINSON prob. who was early > immigrant to Tidewater area,) whose daughter, Margaret PAYNE married 1st > husband, John JENNINGS, and whose 2nd husband was Christopher EDRINGTON, > Sr.? > > There was a John Payne family in Westmoreland County, VA. which I have not been able to link to any of the Payne families of Westmoreland/Northumberland/Old Rappa Counties. John Payne, Sr. of Westmoreland married to Millicent was the father of a John and William Payne. I believe Elizabeth Payne, daughter of Jane Martin, was the wife of John Payne, Jr., son of John Payne and Milicent of Westmoreland Co. I am traveling now, but as soon as I am able to get my file on John Payne's (Westmoreland Co) I will be glad to send. I believe I have information on Elizabeth Payne (daughter of Jane Martin), and will send that info also. Nancy Norman
Hello, So far, I have had no luck finding any information regarding Lewis LEWIS who would have been born sometime in the mid/late 1600's to abt. 1700 in Virginia probably in Northumberland County, Virginia or could have been born elsewhere, perhaps in Wales or England. He married Elizabeth JOHNSTONE whom I believe is related to the Jane JOHNSTONE, (daughter of James JOHNSTONE,) who married James LAMKIN and they are related to a John PAYNE, Jr.. Is this the son of John PAYNE, born: abt. 1615 in Yorkshire, England, who immigrated to Rappahannock, VA and married Margrett/Margaret ?/ROBINSON?, (dau of Richard ROBINSON prob. who was early immigrant to Tidewater area,) whose daughter, Margaret PAYNE married 1st husband, John JENNINGS, and whose 2nd husband was Christopher EDRINGTON, Sr.? Trying to find out whether or not this Lewis LEWIS mentioned below is the brother of David LEWIS whom my husband appears to descend from and John "Councillor" LEWIS from whom it is believed that I descend in my paternal lineage. In the information below it shows these lines connecting to my COX lineage with Hannah COX and also an AUBREY/AWBREY line and one possible MURPHY line that I don't know if I directly descend from or not. And there is a Jane MARTIN in connection with this information below that I am also trying to sort out where she and the Elizabeth PAYNE aka Elizabeth JOHNSTONE fits in to this immediate LEWIS - JOHNSTONE - LAMKIN family group that also connects to some of my other family lines as well. Looking forward to someone who has more clarification on some of this information especially regarding who the parents of this Lewis LEWIS were. Thank you. (See the following family tree information.) Sincerely, Bellinda Myrick - Barnett Mary LEWIS ....Born: prob. abt./bet. 1720 - 1725? ....Death : 30 JAN 1758 ........Virginia Colonial Abstracts - ........Northumberland County (1661-1810) ........VOL 3: Record of Deaths ....Father: Lewis LEWIS/Lewis ap Lewis Lewis ....Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE md: Lewis LAMKIN .....Birth : 19 MAR 1718/19 .....Death : DEC 1769 Northumberland County, VA .....Father: James LAMKIN .....Mother: Jane JOHNSTONE Children: (1) Lewis Abb LAMKIN (2) Mary "Molly" LAMKIN (3) Peter LAMKIN (4) James LAMKIN ************************** I think this Elizabeth JOHNSTONE is related to Jane JOHNSTONE below: Jane JOHNSTONE .....Father: James JOHNSTONE md: James LAMKIN ............Birth : 1675 ............Death : 1736 ............Father: George LAMKIN ............Mother: Hannah COX ...................(related somehow to Vincent COX, some think ....................that she was a daughter by an earlier marriage ....................as she is not mentioned in his will but did ....................receive land to her and husband, George LAMKIN ....................from Vincent COX.) Children: George LAMKIN Elinor LAMKIN Mary LAMKIN Lewis LAMKIN James LAMKIN Jane LAMKIN .....Birth : 1724 John LAMKIN .....Birth : 1728 Peter LAMKIN .....Birth : 1730 Jerimiah LAMKIN .....Birth : 9 SEP 1732 Hannah LAMKIN .....Birth : 21 DEC 1734 **************** Searching for the parents of: Jane JOHNSTONE ......m bef 1717 Northumberland Co VA md: James LAMKIN .............b 1675 .............d 1736 Nothumberland Co VA Elizabeth JOHNSTONE .......m Lewis ap Lewis Lewis .............b 30 Sep 1695 .............d 1736 Richmond Co VA ********************* Name: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE � Sex: F � Alias/other Md. name?: Possibly MURPHY � Birth: ABT. 1665 in Westmoreland. Co. VA � Death: ABT. 1698 in Westmoreland. Co. VA � Note: 4 Issue of John PAYNE and Elizabeth AWBREY/AUBREY Source: Indenture between William PAYNE, Jr. and Francis AUBREY dated July 25, 1722 ) Jane MARTIN's will Jane MARTIN, widow, dated 2 Feb. 1676, Copeley Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA. She says, "Unto my daughter Jane JOHNSTONE my plantation...If it should please God to take from this life my daughter Jane before she is marryed or comes of age or dieing without issue, the estate to fall into the possession of John AWBREY and James Gaynor. Unto my daughter Elizabeth PAIN to the value of fourty shillings...John AWBREY being a liver att my house shall there remain without opposition during the finishing of this crope (sic) or longer as he may find to his conveniencey and not to admitte of any person to dwell upon the plantation without consent from what estate I have willed unto my daughter Jane. (signed) Jane (hF) MARTIN." Proved 16 May 1677. "John Payne Jr. was married before 1676, because at that date his mother-in-law, Jane Martin, left a will naming her daughter as "Elizabeth Pain." This woman Elizabeth is often called Elizabeth Awbrey, but that is incorrect. The confusion comes in because Elizabeth had a sister named Jane who married John Awbrey, a man old enough to be the girls' father. With a mother called Jane & daughter called Jane, a man much older than his wife, and the fact that John Awbrey was mentioned in mother Jane's will--all that taken together resulted in an incorrect assignment of John & Jane Awbrey as Elizabeth's parents. However, mother Jane Martin's will makes it clear that her daughter Elizabeth is married to a "Pain" and that daughter Jane Johnstone is underage. (John Awbrey appears to be an overseer or something to that effect, and is mentioned in the will. His exact relationship to the family is unclear, but he is obviously not Elizabeth's father.) Assuming that married daughter Elizabeth is older than underage daughter Jane Johnstone, I have also *assumed* that Elizabeth was a Johnstone (rather than a Martin). (See more of Jane Martin's will at the bottom of the page. I can find only an excerpted will at the moment. I'll try to find the full document later.) Mother Jane Martin was evidently married at least twice, earlier to a Johnstone & last to a Martin, who left her a widow. But neither of her husbands is known, nor is her maiden name known. I have both John Payne Jr. and Elizabeth Johnstone Payne dieing c 1698, though I have no reason given as to why I recorded that. The only two children I have for them are "our" William & brother John. The records Shawn sent (below) indicate these realtionships. ---record--- 1. "Payne Records from Westmoreland County, Communicated by Mrs. J. C. Pollard Wesmoreland County. Book 7, page 354 Indenture between William Payne Jr. and Francis Aubrey July 25, 1722. For 100 acres, part of a patent granted to John Payne, grandfather to the aforesaid William J. for 400 acres, and by the said John's will bequeathed to John Payne, father to the said William Payne Jr., and by his last will and testament given to his two sons John Payne and William Payne Jr." ---end--- (I know I have at least abstracts of these wills somewhere. I have looked for them for a while now, but still can't come up with them. I'll keep looking & send them out asap.) The Francis Awbrey mentioned above is the son of John & Jane (Johnstone) Awbrey," John Wilmont Father: * JOHNSTONE Mother: * JANE Marriage 1 John PAYNE , (2), * b: AFT. 1651 in Westmoreland. Co. VA �Married: BEF. 1676 in Westmoreland Co. VA Children 1.<Picture: Has children>William PAYNE , II, * b: ABT. 1685 in Westmoreland Co. VA2.<Picture: Has no children>John PAYNE , (3)
Hello: Below I included my response to Judy's earlier query (which I had meant to post to list to find out if anyone knew where to find Reba Payne Saville's 1993 book). If this book has more information about this Payne family (descendents and ancestors of James T. Payne (m. 1826 E. Lampkin), then it might also include your (Ray Lewis) James and John (if they are indeed related to this family). Best of luck, Kathy Camp -----Original Message----- I dont have any further information about Fleming Payne, but I do have just a little bit more about his family. What I have is listed below. Most of this I learned from a listserv participant who referred me to a book written by Reba Payne Saville which was published in 1993. I have not yet had the time to look into this book, which looks like a very useful resource. Does anyone know how to find a copy of this book? Since James T. Payne and his daughter Nancy Ann Payne are discussed in a short section of this book (p. 151-2), I would think it likely that James' brother Fleming would be mentioned somewhere nearby. ************************************************* 1. Thomas Jefferson Payne (the site you mentions lists Nehemiah in this position; it could well be right) 2. Thomas Jefferson Payne, Jr. b. 1778 Orange Co., NC [was the sheriff of Greenville, SC] Children of THOMAS JEFFERSON PAYNE are: i. FLEMING PAYNE, b. 1801. ii. JAMES T. PAYNE, b. 1804, GA; d. 1855. iii. THOMAS J. PAYNE, b. 1807, SC iv. L. W. PAYNE, b. 1808, SC. v. CHARLES PATRICK PAYNE, b. 1812, SC; d. 1881, Hall Co., GA vi. WILLIAM PAYNE, b. 1815, SC 3. JAMES T. PAYNE b. 1804 GA; d. 1855; m. ELIZABETH LAMKIN December 21, 1826 in Hall Co., GA. Children of JAMES PAYNE and ELIZABETH LAMKIN are: i. JOHN R. PAYNE, b. 1828, Fulton Co., GA. ii. MARTHA EMALINE PAYNE, b. January 23, 1830, Hall Co., GA; d. August 1891, Atlanta, GA iii. SUSAN PAYNE, b. 1833, Hall Co., GA. 4. iv. NANCY ANN PAYNE, b. 1835, Hall Co., GA; d. Atlanta, GA?; m. GEORGE W. CAMP v. W. M. PAYNE, b. 1837, Hall Co., GA. vi. WARREN DECATUR PAYNE, b. May 13, 1839, Hall Co., GA. vii. MALINDA L. PAYNE, b. 1842, Cobb Co., GA. viii. BABETTE PAYNE, b. 1844, Cobb Co., GA. ix. ELLA L. PAYNE, b. 1846, Cobb Co., GA. x. RICHARD PAYNE, b. 1848, GA. -----Original Message----- From: JodieK444@aol.com [mailto:JodieK444@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 2:04 PM To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fleming Payne/Hall Co., GA Hello and a happy Sunday to you all ... I came across a huge Payne file on the web which has the closest thing to my FLEMING PAYNE I've seen yet and I need some help. This file is on the descendants of ISAAC PAYNE SR. of Maryland and has this particular FLEMING PAYNE, b. 1801, as the son of THOMAS PAYNE, the grandson of NEHEMIAH PAYNE, and the great-grandson of ISAAC PAYNE. The file states that THOMAS PAYNE was born in 1777 in Hall Co., GA, which, of course, cannot be right because Hall wasn't created until 1818. But if he was born in that area that became Hall, would he have been born in Franklin County or in Indian Territory? One of the siblings of this FLEMING PAYNE is said to be a JAMES T. PAYNE who married in 1826 in Hall Co., so it appears that was the area the family was in. The birth places of Fleming's siblings seem to indicate that the family may have moved to SC by 1807 but came back to Hall Co. as indicated by the above marriage. The file also has some of these Paynes moving to Paulding County, GA which is right next to Carroll County where my Paynes eventually settled. I know there is a FLEMING PAYNE in the Hall County census in 1830 and 1840 and I'm trying to connect a FLEMING PAYNE in Monroe Co., TN in 1850 and Whitfield Co., GA in 1860 (who would have been born abt. 1801-1802 and said he was born in GA) to this earlier Fleming. The FLEMING PAYNE in Monroe and Whitfield was married to EVALINE ----. I realize information on the net is not always accurate, but this at least seems to point me in the right direction. Siblings of this FLEMING PAYNE b. 1801 and who appeared to be in the Hall Co. area are: James. T. Payne m. Elizabeth Lampkin in 1826 in Hall Co. Others Yea Payne (I have no idea what this means) Thomas J. Payne, b. 1807 in SC L.W. Payne b. 1808 Female Payne b. 1811 Charles Patrick Payne b. 1812, d. 1881 William Payne, b. 1815 Female Payne 2, b. 1816 Unfortunately, this file has no more on this Fleming Payne, no marriage, children etc. Is anyone out there connected to this family or can anyone give me any further information? I would really appreciate any help. And to the person who contributed this file, Joe Payne, thank you so very much for the lead. Judy
JUDY WROTE: > This file is on the descendants of ISAAC PAYNE SR. of Maryland and has this particular FLEMING PAYNE, b. 1801, as the son of THOMAS PAYNE, the grandson of NEHEMIAH PAYNE, and the great-grandson of ISAAC PAYNE. The file states that THOMAS PAYNE was born in 1777 in Hall Co., GA, ... > One of the siblings of this FLEMING PAYNE is said to be a JAMES T. PAYNE who > married in 1826 in Hall Co., I FOUND THIS RATHER INTERESTING, JUDY, AS I AM SEARCHING FOR THE ANCESTORS OF JOHN AND JAMES PAYNE, BROTHERS, WHO LIVED IN NORTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA AND TENNESSEE IN THE 1800'S. I HAVE HAD LITTLE LUCK THUS FAR BUT DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU ARE REPORTING FLEMING PAYNE'S BIRTH AS 1801 AND JAMES' MARRIAGE AS 1826. IF WE GIVE JAMES ABOUT 20 YEARS TO BECOME OLD ENOUGH TO MARRY, THAT MAKES HIM BORN IN ABOUT 1806, WHEN FLEMING WAS ABOUT 5 YEARS OLD. JUST TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. IF JAMES IS NOT PART OF THAT FAMILY, PERHAPS THERE IS ROOM AT THE END OF FLEMING'S CHILDREN LISTING FOR A JOHN IN 1820 AND A JAMES IN ..YEP...1826. RAY LEWIS PAYNE/STILL LOOKING
If anyone has a Paine/Payne - Hollis connection, will you please contact me?? Collene Pearce collene@jump.net
I apologize for the double post if they both went through. My Payne mail is not coming back and I wasn't sure whether I posted it to the list or not. Judy
Hello and a happy Sunday to you all ... I came across a huge Payne file on the web which has the closest thing to my FLEMING PAYNE I've seen yet and I need some help. This file is on the descendants of ISAAC PAYNE SR. of Maryland and has this particular FLEMING PAYNE, b. 1801, as the son of THOMAS PAYNE, the grandson of NEHEMIAH PAYNE, and the great-grandson of ISAAC PAYNE. The file states that THOMAS PAYNE was born in 1777 in Hall Co., GA, which, of course, cannot be right because Hall wasn't created until 1818. But if he was born in that area that became Hall, would he have been born in Franklin County or in Indian Territory? One of the siblings of this FLEMING PAYNE is said to be a JAMES T. PAYNE who married in 1826 in Hall Co., so it appears that was the area the family was in. The birth places of Fleming's siblings seem to indicate that the family may have moved to SC by 1807 but came back to Hall Co. as indicated by the above marriage. The file also has some of these Paynes moving to Paulding County, GA which is right next to Carroll County where my Paynes eventually settled. I know there is a FLEMING PAYNE in the Hall County census in 1830 and 1840 and I'm trying to connect a FLEMING PAYNE in Monroe Co., TN in 1850 and Whitfield Co., GA in 1860 (who would have been born abt. 1801-1802 and said he was born in GA) to this earlier Fleming. The FLEMING PAYNE in Monroe and Whitfield was married to EVALINE ----. I realize information on the net is not always accurate, but this at least seems to point me in the right direction. Siblings of this FLEMING PAYNE b. 1801 and who appeared to be in the Hall Co. area are: James. T. Payne m. Elizabeth Lampkin in 1826 in Hall Co. Others Yea Payne (I have no idea what this means) Thomas J. Payne, b. 1807 in SC L.W. Payne b. 1808 Female Payne b. 1811 Charles Patrick Payne b. 1812, d. 1881 William Payne, b. 1815 Female Payne 2, b. 1816 Unfortunately, this file has no more on this Fleming Payne, no marriage, children etc. Is anyone out there connected to this family or can anyone give me any further information? I would really appreciate any help. And to the person who contributed this file, Joe Payne, thank you so very much for the lead. Judy
Can SKS please look up the 1871 and 1891 CENSUS for Great Addington, Northampton, England. I would like to know who exactly was living with James and Harriet (Harreiot in 1881) PAYNE (or PAINE) in 1871 and 1891. I am trying to tie down Eliza PAYNE in particular. TIA Jim Jim & Bev Payne NEW ZEALAND jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz
Patricia, I found this in NC.1880 Lewis Census Place: Houses Creek, Wake, North Carolina Source: FHL Film 1254984 National Archives Film T9-0984 Page 78B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thomas PAYNE Self M M W 42 VA Occ: Agent For Sale Of Land Fa: VA Mo: VA Mary P. PAYNE Wife F M W 35 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA Walker Lee PAYNE Son M S W 13 VA Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA Thomas ... PAYNE Son M S W 10 VA Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA Mattie PAYNE Dau F S W 8 VA Occ: At School Fa: VA Mo: VA Parke PAYNE Son M S W 6 VA Fa: VA Mo: VA Hampter PAYNE Son M S W 4 NC Fa: VA Mo: VA Manie PAYNE Dau F S W 6M NC Fa: VA Mo: VA 1880 United States Census ----- Original Message ----- From: <P1bradford@cs.com> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 07:14 AM Subject: Paynes in Charlottesville > If there is anyone who has any information to share or would be willing to do > a census lookup for me in Albermarle County, Charlottesville, VA for me I > would greatly appreciate it. I have no information on my Great Grandfather, > Walker L. PAYNE, except that he was born there and was a member of the fire > department from 1890 - 1911. > > Thank You, > Patricia Bradford > p1bradford@cs.com > >
Seeking information on the following families found in 1860 Carroll County, GA (taken from book, not microfilm, may contain errors): Villa Rica P.O., Dist. 2 #102 Nathan WOOD, 30, m. Dv. (???) b. TN Jane, 25, f, b. Dv.(??? ... nothing in book on what Dv. means) Nancy, 6, f., b. GA Cassandria, 3, f., b. GA Mary Ann, 6/12, f,, b. GA #103 Joel WOOD, 23, m., b. TN Rachel, 20, f., b. Dv. (???) If this is wife, she was 13 or 14 when she gave birth to child below Josephine, 6, f. b. GA James, 4, m., b. GA Nancy E., 2, f., b. GA Not Named, 10/12, m. b. GA #125 Joel WOOD, farmer, 76, m. b. TN Mary, 60, f., b. Dv. (??) Elizabeth, 18, f., b. Dv. (???) William, 17, m., b. Dv, (???) Trying to match with this family 10 years earlier in Monroe Co., TN (taken from Monroe County Genweb page, may contain errors): 1850 Census, Monroe Co., TN, Dist 5, HH#494: WOODS, Joel, 61, m, b. TN, farmer (b. abt. 1789) WOODS, Polly, 55, f, b. TN (b. abt. 1795) WOODS, Nathan, 21, m, b. TN (b. abt. 1829) WOODS, Polly, 17, f, b. TN (b. abt. 1833) WOODS, Joel, 14, m, b. TN (b. abt. 1836) WOODS, Rachael, 12, f, b. TN (b. abt. 1838) (If this is the same Rachel, above in Carroll Co., she was a wife of younger Joel, not daughter of Joel, head of house) SELLERS, Nelly, 73, f, b. PA (b. abt. 1777) Hoping for this scenario: (Mary) Polly Ann Woods, age 17 in Monroe Co., TN (above,) married William Jasper Payne in Monroe Co., TN in 1852 (marriage record documented), and moved to Georgia, hopefully Carroll County, by 1860. (haven't found them yet in 1860). Polly's family followed. William Jasper and Mary-Polly Wood(s) Payne had six children: Elizabeth, Fleming Caleb (twin), Joseph Joshua (twin), Rachel, James, and Hannah Jane. Five were born before 1860, one abt. 1862. William Jasper fought in the Civil War with the Villa Rica Gold Diggers (Co. I, 19th Ga, Regt.) and died in 1862 in Richmond, VA. (Documented). The family stayed in the Villa Rica area. Mary "Paine" is found as a widow in 1870 Carroll with three daughters, Elizabeth, Rachel and Hannah. Fleming Caleb and James are living with the Levi Turner family and Joseph Joshua is living with the Williams family. By 1880, all children are married, some found living in Carroll County. Mary-Polly, the widow, is living with Fleming Caleb and his wife Fleman Louella (Ella) Wilson. Elizabeth married James Williams (buried at Powell's Chapel), Joseph Joshua married Louisa Boyd (buried at Powell's Chapel), Rachel married James Richards and eventually moved west, James married Mary Elizabeth Pope (buried at Macedonia), and Hannah Jane married James Maroney and moved to Alabama (buried in Etowah County). Mary-Polly Payne, widow of William J. Payne, is found on the Confederate Widows Pension Roll for Carroll County (microfilm at Ga. Archives) for 1895, 1896 and 1897. She is listed as deceased in 1898. I have no idea where she is buried, but more than likely in Carroll Co. Looking for anyone who might be related to this Wood(s) family who could help me tie the Monroe Co. Woods and Carroll Co. Woods together. May have also married into the McWhorter family of Carroll County. William Jasper and Mary-Polly Ann Wood(s) Payne were my GGgrandparents. Their son, Joseph Joshua Payne, who married Louisa Boyd, was my great-grandfather. Their daughter, Sarah Jane Payne (possibly named after Hannah Jane? and Louisa's mother, Sarah LeGuin Boyd), who married John Allen McWhorter, was my grandmother. Their daughter, Marian Payne McWhorter Fowler, is my mother. Any help greatly appreciated. It would be great also to find new cousins! Judy
I would also be interested in any information and the location of the "Red House". I hope anyone with the information will respond to the list, so that all of us may share. Winona
Would anyone know if the Payne "Red House" is still standing? If so, can you tell where is it located? I will be visiting Va. next week and will be in the area of Leedstown (possible location of the "Red House" mentioned in Payne's of Virginia"), and would like to visit the house. Thank you, Nancy Norman
This was in the most recent issue of "Somebody's Links". Thought it might be someone's line from the list. > o I have a large Bible that apparently originally belonged to >Samuel PAINE, born 1 October 1824, married Mercy KIRBY on >26 November 1849 in Providence, Rhode Island. There are several >births, deaths, and marriages recorded, including those of >Albert Bigelow PAINE (1856-1937), friend and biographer of Mark >Twain. Places include Illinois, Kansas, Florida, and Dakota. If >any member of the PAINE family is interested, I will send the >information free or the Bible for my costs. > Leslie Bird JBird@abts.net > >PERMISSION TO REPRINT NOTICES FROM SOMEBODY'S LINKS is granted, >PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is not used for a commercial purpose; >and (2) this notice appears at the end of the message: > Previously published in SOMEBODY'S LINKS NEWSLETTER: >Genealogical Treasures Found, Vol. 3, No. 29, 30 August 2001. > >TO SUBSCRIBE OR UNSUBSCRIBE, send e-mail with only the word >SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the body of the message to: >Somebodys-Links-Newsletter-L-request@rootsweb.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Hi Teri! And thanks for your response. One reason I can't find Amos is that the marriages in Ontario can only be accessed up to 1929 and he arrived in 1930. So I don't know who his children were or whether he even stayed in Canada. He could also still be alive although he would be 89 now. Amos Payne doesn't seem to be a common name in Canada which should help my search but it is common in the USA. At any rate, I know his intention was to settle in Canada. I have had a researcher looking for him and an appeal for information was published in a newspaper but there has been no sign of him. I have a list of about 400 Paynes in Ontario. I plan to write to them gradually. It had occurred to me that if he had sons or daughters he may have named them after his father, brothers and sisters, ie Joseph, Charles, William, Dora and Alice. At any rate, I will hang on to your email in case a Michigan link comes up. You just never know. regards, Shane
Hi List: In response to Shane, who is looking for Amos PAYNE in Guelph, Ontario, al I can say is good luck. I have been looking for a William J. Payne from Ontario (the family told me it was Goff, but it could possibly by Guelph?) who came into Michigan and settled in Lapeer County. I can't find anything about him in Ontario so far. Your Amos didn't happen to have a son named William, did he? ") He may have come to Michigan - it was a popular move at the time. Teri (Henderson) Garety Researching: OH - Henderson, Barcus/Barkhurst, Coffman, Sutton Perrine, McConnell MI - Garety/Gerety, Losik, Walker, Decker, Gavassi Simone, Payne, Vandewarker, Whitkopf, Sutherland Howton KS - Losik PA - Henderson ONT - Payne, Garety/Gerety
Hello Payne researcher, Looking for any information on this family. Theodore Wesley Payne/Paine born Jan. 1855 in South Carolina, died Feb. 1917 Anniston, Al, was married to Nancy Jane Strain. Thomas Wesley Paine/Payne, Harbour Master Charleston South Carolina, born about 1820 Maragret Elizabeth Booth born in S.C. about 1830, married Thomas Paine/Payne Morton B.Paine's/Payne's daughter married an attorney (Rutledge) with lawyer firm by the name of Rutledge, that had offices in Charleston S.C. in the late 1800's. They also had law offices in Washington D.C. and over seas. If anyone can help please e-mail at the address below. Jimmy Payne dpayne@mindspring.com
This obituary was in the Baton Rouge Advocate on August 18, 2001, page 10A. I have no connection that I know of, but hope it makes a connection for someone on the list. Payne, John H. A retired farm equipment dealer and a resident of Baton Rouge, he died at 8 a.m. Thursday, Aug. 16, 2001, at Baton Rouge General Medical Center-Bluebonnet. He was 74 and a native of Magnolia, Miss. Visiting was at Rabenhorst Funeral Home East, 11000 Florida Blvd., from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Friday. Visiting at the funeral home chapel from 8 a.m. until religious services at 9 a.m. Saturday, conducted by the Rev. Tommy French. Graveside services at Silver Creek Baptist Church Cemetery, Magnolia, at 1 p.m. Saturday. Survived by his wife, Genevieve Simmons Payne; two daughters and sons-in-law, Cheryl Payne Campbell and Frank Campbell and Jan Payne Frey and Fred C Frey III; a son and daughter-in-law, John Michael Payne and Brenda Harper Payne; a sister Birginia Williams; and five grandchildren, London Campbell,DeMare, Barrett Campbell Hudkins, Charlie Frey, Genevieve Frey and Anna Frey. Preceded in death by his parents, four sisters, a brother , and a son Ricky. The roots of our family tree were planted deep in American soil. The trunk of the tree grew strong and it has many, many branches. Some branches are still bare and need your information. I will gladly exchange genealogy information with others. My time on the computer is very limited so Please do not send me jokes, hoax warnings, chain letters, etc. Researching: Anderson, Byrd, Dodson, Dove, Goodson, Miley, Neal, Patterson, Payne, Ratcliff, Rougeou, Shumate, Walker and Weaver Hazel LeBlanc <gen-search@home.com> or Hazel LeBlanc <hazel.leblanc@home.com> 1717 Job Ave. Zachary, LA 70791-5110 AOL Instant Messenger I D: HMLeBlanc Home page: http://members.home.net/fleblanc5/both.htm
Hello List I have a dilemma that I am desperatly trying to solve. I would like to find more out about a Sallie Payne, b. 2/9/1877 in NC, d. 1/26/64. Her husband was William Ross Payne or W. R. Payne of Marshall NC. I have Sallie's death certificate that lists her mother as Nancy Griffin and father Joe Payne. The problem is, according to her son's wife- my grandmother, Sallie's father was Garrison B. Brown, son of Harrison Brown and Syentha Roberts. I have Garrison's death certificate as well but the informants name is Mrs. G. B. Brown which ofcourse, gives me no help. I have tried to get a birth certificate on Sallie as well as information on all the other names- to no avail. Garrison died in 1950 and the address on both his certificate and Sallie's is the same. Can anyone give me ideas where to go with this?? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Michelle