Found a local copy of The Paynes of Wabash County, Illinois and Wilson County, Tennessee by Lois Wittenbraker Payne, 1984. I have the listed names (table of contents) here at home. Would anyone like some of the information contained therein? It begins with Henry Payne who married Rachel Thompson, 17 Dec. 1795 in Orange County, NC. John Van Zandt

To all Paynes and descendants, I have pictures of the Payne Cemetery and of the tombstones and plaque. Since I cannot send an attachment to the list, if you would like a copy please email me privately. [Jim Miller] jmiller8@comcast.net <mailto:jmiller8@comcast.net>

Searching for info on JESSE PAINE Born abt. 1775 in Kent Co. Delaware. Married Mary Carter and lived in Maryland. Son; Henry b. 1808 Served in Delaware Militia 1807, 6th Regiment..

I delete my mail and didn't get to read the one send about the Payne murder in arkansas. Can someone please send that again. DEborah

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Title: The Paynes of Wabash County Illinois, and Wilson County, Tennessee. Stmnt.Tesp.: by Lois Wittenbraker Payne Authors: Payne, Lois Wittenbraker, 1919- (Main author) Notes: Cover title. Includes index. Includes Armstrong, Buchanan, Compton, Holsen, Price, Thomason and related families. Henry Payne (ca. 1775-1837) married Rachel Thompson in 1795 in Orange county, North Carolina, and moved to Wilson County, Tennessee by 1806/1808. descendants and relatives lived in North Carolina, Tennessee, Indiana, Illinois and elsewhere. Call Number: 929.273 O293pL JSMB US/Can Book Format: Books/Monographs Language: English Publication: Effingham, Ill.: L. W. Payne, 1984 Physical: 160 p.: ill., facsims., geneal. table, ports. ----------------------------------------------------------- Title: Paine family records: a journal of genealogical and biographical information respecting the American families of Payne, Paine, Payn, etc. Stmnt.Resp.: edited by H. D. Paine Authors: Paine, H. D. (Main Author) Notes: Microfilm of typescript. Includes index. Subjects: Paine, Payne Format: Manuscript (On Film) Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1969 Physical: on 1 microfilm reel: geneal. tables; 35 mm. --------------------------------------------------- Title: The Paine family register: or genealogical notes and queries Authors: Paine, Henry D. (Added Author) Notes: Quarterly. Microreproduction of no. 1-3, 5-8 of periodical published: Albany N.Y.: J. Munsell, 1857-1859. Editor: 1857-1859, Henry d. Paine. Text partly in Latin. Suspended with no. 8 (Jan 1859); only three issues appeared in 1858. Periodical for the collection and interchange of family history and genealogical data about Paiine individuals and families within the United States, particularly in New England and New York. Includes transcripts and extracts from local, county, state and federal records (church and town records, vital records, land and property, probate, military, etc.). Some Paine individuals and families also lived in Virginia and elsewhere. Includes some family history and genealogical data in England to the early 1300s. Includes Payne, Pain, Paine, Payn and other variant spellings. Includes Colvin, Cronkhite, Freer, Harrington, Peck, Pettibone, Sturgis, Wallis, Webb and related families. Library lack no. 4 (Oct. 1858). Format: Serial Language: English, Latin Publication: Albany: Bell & Howell, [19--] Physical: 1 microfilm reel: ill., geneal. tables; 35 mm. Summary Contents: HOLDINGS: 1857 (no. 1-3), 1858 (no. 5-7)-1859 (no. 8). Numeric designation: No. 1 (Jan 1857-no. 8 (Jan 1859) ----------------------------------------------------- This is the last of the copies I made. There are "only" 210 more on the computer, many of which are Paynes as a secondary surname to other genealogies. I won't be looking up any more of these. I am grateful to Norm Payne for bringing me a step closer to connecting my John Payne who married Mildred "Millie" Haynes in the 1780's. One son, another John (b. 1784), md. Margaret "Peggy" Rush Williams and they moved from GA with their grown family to Sabine Co. TX about 1830. Marilyne Short Payne

Title: The Payne family history Stmnt.Resp.: [Arlo and Patsey Payne] Authors: Payne, Patsey A. (Main Author) Payne, Arlo (Added Author) Notes: Photocopy of original, 2000. (Library has copied leaves to pages). Title taken from cover. Authors taken from p. [ii]. James Payne was born in 1805 in Crockerton, England to James Payne and Sarah Green. He married Hannah Adlam in 1803 and they had seven children. His wife and two children died in England. James came to America in 1842, bringing his 5 remaining children and his sister Anna. He settled in Carrol county, Illinois, where he married Hannah Penny (or Perry) in 1853. He died in 1884. His descendants lived in Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, South Dakota and elsewhere. Includes information on Penwell, Stefan, Fait, Stensland, Migawa, Seehafer and other related families. Call Number: 929.273 P293pp JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Books/Monographs Language: English Publication: [McKenna, Wash.?: A & P Payne?, 1992] Physical: [iii], 179 leaves, [13] leaves of plates: ill., ports] ----------------- Note the marriage date above, 1803, must be in error. Marilyne ---------------------------------------------- The following answers Preston Holt's inquiry: ----------------------------------------- Title: The Paynes from Pennsylvania Stmnt.Resp.: By Wesley A. Payne; in collaboration with Herry H. Barrett and Wayne E. Myers Authors: Payne, Wesley A. (Main Author) Berrett, Jerry H (Added Author) Meyers, Wayne E (Added Author) Notes: Originally published, 1984 Includes surname index. Josiah Payne and Martha Shepard married about 1715 in Pennsyvania and settled in New Garden Township, Chester County. They are the parents of twelve children, the first eight being born at New Garden. Little is known of Josiah and Martha's nativity other than they probably were born in England. Josiah and Martha were Quakers of record. The family seems to have relocated to property in both Chester and Lancaster counties on Octorara Creek about one mile above the Maryland line. descendants settled in Tennessee, Ohio, Virginia and elsewhere. Allied families include: Cowgill, Coulson, Savage, and Manifold. Call Number: 929.273 P293w JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Books/Monographs (With Film) Language: English Pyblication: Pueblo, Colo.: W. A. Payne, 1992 Physical: ix, 210 p. Edition: 2nd ed. --------------------------------------------- Title: The Paynes of Virginia Authors: Payne, Brooke, 1872-1936 (Main Author) Notes: Microreproduction of original published: Richmond VA.: William Byrd Press, 1937. [14], 543 p., [1] leaf of plates. Includes index. John Payne was born about 1615 and immigrated during or before 1653 to Lancaster Co., Virginia. He died in 1690 in Rappahannock Co., VA. Includes Ball, West, and related families. Format: Books/Monographs (On Film) Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1978 Physical: on 1 microfilm reel: geneal. table; 35 mm. -------------------------------------------------------- Title: The Paynes of Virginia Stmnt. Resp.: by Brooke Payne Authors: Payne, Brooke, 1872-1936 (Main Author) Gatewood, Joanne Leach (Added Author) Notes: Authorities consulted: p. 38-39 Includes index: "a revised and enlarged personal name index...compiled by Joanne Leach Gatewood, staff member, the Virginia Historical Society...Richmond, Virginia..." Includes Ball, Brent, Carter, Fant, Quesenberry, Washington and related families. John Payne was born about 1615 in England and immigrated during or before 1653 to Lancaster County, Virginia. He died in 1790 in Rappahannock (now Westmoreland) County, VA. Call Number: 929.273 P293a 1977 JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Books/Monographs (With Film) Language: English Publication: Harrisonburg, VA.: C. J. Carrier, 1977 Physical: xii [i.e. xiv], 728 p.: fold. geneal. table. Edition: 2nd ed. --------------------------------------------------------

I was given the name William C. "Billy" Payne, <pollard15@aol.com>, to contact regarding the family line. I looked up the AOL member directory and don't believe I have the correct e.mail address!! The profile just doesn't jibe. Will the real William C. Payne please contact me? Thanks. Marilyne Short Payne

Title: My Payne Ancestors: Barren County Stmnt.Resp.: Eva Coe Peden, Martha Powell Reneau Authors: Peden, Eva Coe (Main Author) Reneau, Martha Powell (Added Author) Notes: Typescripts, holographs, photocopies and carbon copies. Reuben Payne was a member of the Payne family that originally came from England and settled in North Carolina. He married Elizabeth Sweatman and they had three sons. their son, Daniel married Martha Frazier and they had thirteen children. Their son, Reuben, was born in 1805 in Sullivan County, Tennessee. He married Sarah and they had eight children. Descendants and relatives lived in Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri and elsewhere. Includes copies of cemetery inscriptions for Payne relatives in several cemeteries in Monroe County, Kentucky and Milan, Missouri. Includes Bacon, Chambers, Copass, Frazier, Greer, Norman and related families Format: Manuscript Language: English Physical: [64] p. ------------------------------------------ Title: Origin of the Isaac Payne Family: Our Isaac Payne family in America Stmnt.Resp.: by A.C. Payne, 1942 Authors: Payne, A. C. (Alvin C.), b 1868 (Main Author) Notes: Microfilm of typescript (mimeograph?, 20 leaves in various foliations). Isaac Payne (1807-1893) was born in North Carolina, the son of John and Rebecca Ford Payne. He migrated to Lawrence County, Indiana, with his brothers and sisters and later moved to Sullivan County, Indiana. He married Mary Zinc (1821-1897) in 1839 at Hymera, Indiana. They settled on a farm near Hymera. They had four sons, 1840-1851. Descendants listed lived in Indiana and elsewhere. IN Pedigree charts and family records at the Sullivan County Library, Sullivan Indiana. Format: Manuscript on Film Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City: Filmed by the genealogical Society of Utah, 1984 Physical: on 1 microfilm reel; 35 mm. ------------------------------------------ Title: Our Payne Heritage: personal index and photographs with family histories. Stmnt.Resp.: Reba Christine Payne Saville Authors: Saville, Reba Christine Payne, 1922 (Main Author) Notes: Includes index. Includes information on the Bolt, Padgett, Pollard, Saville and Warren families. Family history and genealogical information about the descendants of Thomas Payne who was born ca. 1740 in Maryland. He married Anna (surname unknown) sometime prior to the year 1763. They lived in Orange Co., North Carolina and were the parents of two sons and six daughters. Descendants lived in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas and elsewhere. Call Number: 929.273 P293sr JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Books/Monoraphs Language: English Publication Fern Park, Fla.: R. Saville, 1992 Physical: ix, 281p.: ill., coat of arms, facsims., ports. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (Speculation by me. Could the above Thomas Payne be a grandson of Flayle Payne of MD? Marilyne) ---------------------------------------------------- Title: Payne Family Authors: Gottschalk, Kather Cox (Main Author) Notes: Transcript (typewritten) prepared and donated by Kather Cox Gottschalk from book originally published: New York: Knickerbocker Press. Includes Allen, Johnson (Johnston), Lewis, Price, Thomson, Viley and related families. Sir Robert Payne, John Payne, and William Payne--brothers--immigrated from England to Jamestown in 1620. Sir Robert returned to England, John settled near what is known as the "northern neck" of Virginia, and William settled in Jamestown. Descendants lived in Virginia, Kentucky and elsewhere. Call Number: 929.273 A1 no. 1657 Format: Manuscript (With Film) Language: English Physical: 35 leaves ------------------------------------------------------ Title: Payne Family Bible Records, 1758-1914 Notes: Transcribed, 1939, from the family Bible of Major George Payne, of Marietta, Ohio, in the possession of Miss Della Hannold, Marietta. Abraham (Abram) Payne (1758-1827) married Hannah Lewis in 1779. They had twelve children, 1780-1805. In: Daughters of the American Revolution. Marietta Chapter (Ohio). Bible and family records. leaf 58 (and the following 2 leaves). Format: Manuscript (On Film) Language: English ------------------------------------------------------- Title: Payne research file Authors: Curtis, Oscar F. (Oscar Franklin), 1905 (Main Author) Notes: Microfilm of typescript, ms., and printed materials collection (photocopy, [16] leaves) in possesion of Oscar Curtis, Bloomington, Indiana. Contains Payne families in census records for Monroe County Indiana, 1830-1900, and a biographical sketch of Solomon c. Payne. James Payne was born in North Carolina in 1810. He and his wife, Anna Phillips, had eight girls and four boys. The family migrated from North Carolina to Monroe County, Indiana, in 1831, where he served as Justice of the Peace and Salt Creek township assessor for more than twenty years. He died in 1874. His son, Solomon C. Payne, was born in Rowan County, North Carolina, in 1830. He served in the war with Mexico and the Civil War. He married twice and was the father of two daughters. Format: Manuscript (On Film) Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1989 Physical: on 1 microfilm reel; 35 mm. -------------------------------------------- That's all for today, Marilyne

More from the 235 Payne subjects noted on the LDS (in-house) computer. ---------------- Title: Descendants of Sanford Payne Stmnt.Resp.: Madge Starliper Payne & Riner Champ Payne Authors: Payne, Madge Starliper (Main Author) Payne, Riner Champ (Added Author) Notes: Includes index. Includes information on the Lee, Lloyd, McDade, Miller, Ritter, Spilman. Sanford Payne was born ca. 1772 in Farfax Co., VA. He was a descendant of one Richard Payne who was born ca. 1633 in Northumberland Co., VA. Sanford married Elizabeth Turley sometime prior to the year 1800. They lived in VA and were the parents of five children. Descendants lived primarily in VA. Call Number: 929.273 P293pa JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Books/Monographs Language: English Publication: Baltimore: Gateway Press, c1991 Physical: [354] p. in various pagings: ill., ports. ------------------------------------------------- Title: The Family tree newsletter [Payne] Notes: Microreproduction of original newsletter published: Toledo, Ohio: G. & P. Fritts, 1982-1985. (Toledo, Ohio: Becker Impressions, Inc.) Annual, with some irregularities. Editor: Gregory & Patti Fritts "Printed by Becker Impressions, Inc. Published by the Family. All rights reserved."--ed. Vol. 1 no. 3, published late in Feb. 1985, may have been the final issue. Newsletter for the interchange of genealogical data and history of the Payne, Hanley, and Ripley families who are related to the editor, Patti Payne Fritts. Patti's parents were Catherine Hanley and William R. Payne. Patti's grandfather, William Sherman Payne (1869-1952) married Cora Vera Ripley in 1894. Their ancestors came mainly from England and Ireland, and settled in Maine, Massachusetts, and New York in the 1600-1700's. One ancestor was Joseph Payne (1768-1809) and his wife Cynthia Osborn (1774-1821), who purchased land in New York from Peter and Massey Payn. During the 1800's, some families moved to Ontario (Canada), and to Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsyvania, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin. Later descendants and relatives also lived in Germany, Sweden, California, Minnesota, New Mexico, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia and elsewhere. Some McCann relatives chose to go by the surname Atwood. Also includes Payn as a variant spelling. Also includes Alvord, Arney, Ammerman, Atwood, Bennett, Chase, Collins, Conkle, Costello, Davis, Dockery, French, Foster, Fritts, Harness, Howes, Hurless, Ingraham, Kelly, Logan, Mason, McCann, Norton, Osborn, Potts, Pratt, Rockhill, Sampson, Schulze, Whiting and other related families. Format: Serial (On Fiche) Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1986. Physical: 3 microfiches: ill., coat of arms, ports.; 11 x 15 cm. Summary contents: Holdings: Vol. 1 no. 1 (Dec 1982); vol. 1 no. 2 (Dec 1983); vol. 1 no. 3 (Feb 1985). Numeric Designation: Vol. 1 no. 1 (Dec 1982 - vol 1 no. 3 (Feb 1985) Subject Class: 929.27305 P293f ----------------------------------------------------- Title: Lineage of the John Spencer Payne and Anna Maria Harris family, 1700-1986 Stmnt.Resp.: com;iled and published by Holland I. Payne Authors: Payne, Holland I. (Holland Ivan), 1918 (Main Author) Notes: "Acknowledgements:" p. vi. Includes index. Includes Harris, Arter, Baker, Bline, Lair (Lehrer), Sinkey and related families. Includes occasional interspersed manuscript additions and corrections. Evan Pain or Payne (ca. 1760-ca. 1808) married Margaret Baker about 1781, and moved from Hardy County Virginia (now West Virginia) to Licking County Ohio in 1803. John Spencer Payne (1828-1903), a grandson of Evan, married Anna Maria Harris in 1852, and also lived in Licking County Ohio. Descenddants and relatives of Evan lived in Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio and elsewhere. Call Number: 929.273 A1 no. 5187 JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Books/Monographs (With Fiche) Language: english Publication: Sacramento, Calif.: H.I. Payne, 1986 Physical: vii, 43 p.: ill., coat of arms, geneal. tables, ports. ------------------------------ Enough for this page, more coming. Marilyne

If you do not live in Virginia the fee is somewhat greater. I wanted a will and I live in NC the fee for the two pages was $30.00. Residents of VA only pay a photocopying charge and shipping. Max Subject: Re: Payne files at UVA I am fortunate enough to live close enough to UVA that I have seen the files. They are 'housed' in about 22 boxes. I don't remember seeing his manuscript but just notes and more importantly, all the correspondence from the Paynes he wrote to. They charge .25 per copy + $6.00 handling fee + shipping (mine was 2.44 for 39 pgs).

I visited the library, too, and spent a full eight hours each on two days just very quickly scanning the many thousands of items, particularly correspondence, in the 22 boxes. Since I was trying to trace a group of Paynes who turned up in the mid/late-1700s in SC (supposedly from VA), I didn't have benefit of focusing on a particular VA county or Payne family there. I didn't have much luck either, since most of the actual research was based on his visits to the many VA counties and courthouses (but no significant work outside VA). Many Paynes moved over time within VA and down into TN, NC, SC and GA, and he did a much better job on those Payne branches that were fairly stable and could be followed from court and other records in particular VA counties. To transcribe and be able to organize names and places meaningfully from the many scattered documents in the collection would seem a huge task to me -- perhaps a larger task than even Patrick imagines or describes. --- Steve

Hi- I am fortunate enough to live close enough to UVA that I have seen the files. They are 'housed' in about 22 boxes. I don't remember seeing his manuscript but just notes and more importantly, all the correspondence from the Paynes he wrote to. They charge .25 per copy + $6.00 handling fee + shipping (mine was 2.44 for 39 pgs). It takes about 3 weeks to get the pages. I had picked out the ones I wanted and had them copied. I would guess that it might take longer to get if they have to pull them. Also, I found items about my Paynes in several boxes so you may not get everything there is without visiting. Someone did start an index but about 10 of the boxes are not indexed. Hope this helps! Kristan Gregory "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." -Emerson

To continue: Title: Bible of Don F. Payne and Savery Elizabeth Andrews Payne (Colorado County, Texas), 1823-1907 Notes: Photocopies of original Bible records with transcript. Birth and death records for the family of Don Fernando Payne (1823-1871) and Savery Elizabeth Andrews Payne (1838-1902). The family lived in Colorado county TX. In Family Bible records/Ernest Mae Seaholm. Call Number: 929.273 P293s JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Manuscript Language: English Physical: leaves 17-19 --------------------------------------------------- Title: Bible of Josiah Frederick Turner Payne and Basheba Winifred Andrews (Colorado County, Texas) Notes: Photocopies of original Bible records with typescript. Birth, death, and marriage records for the family of Josiah Frederick Turner Payne (1825-1879) and Basheba W. Andrews Payne (d.1885). The couple were married in 1851 and lived in Colorado County TX. In Family Bible Records/Ernest Mae Seaholm. Call Number: 929.273 P293s JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Manuscript Language: English Physical: leaves 9-17 -------------------------------------- Title: Bible of Zachariah Payne and Nancy Turner Payne (Colorado County TX) 1762- 1879. Notes: Photocopy of original Bible records and transcripts. Birth, death, and marriage records for the family of Zachariah Payne (1794-1870) and Nancy Turner Payne (1797-1879). The family lived in Colorado County TX. In Family Bible Records/Ernest Mae Seaholm Call Number: 929.273 P293s JSMB US/CAN Book Format: Manuscript Language: English Physical: leaves 1-8 ------------------------------------- Title: The descendants of John Payn: from England to America Stmnt. Resp.: Clyde William Payne Authors: Payne, Clyde William, 1929- (Main Author) Notes: Includes Index. Includes Adams, French, McCubbin, Neale, Young and other related families. Map on lining papers. John Payn of Frittenden, Kent County, England, was born about 1420 and died in 1463. His descendant Moses Paine emigrated to New England in 1638, and settled in Braintree, Massachusetts. Descendants lived in Massachusetts, New York, and Pennsylvania. Subjects: Payn, Paine, Payne, Adams, French, McCubbin, Neale, Young. Call Number: 929.273 P292p Format: Books/Monographs Language: english Publication: Baltimore: Gateway Press, c1994 Physical: xviii, 266p., [52] p. of plates: ill., maps, ports. -------------------------------------------- more later, Marilyne

Dear List: I was working my way through some e-mail I had not yet gotten to when I saw one suggesting that copies of Col. Payne's papers can be obtained from UVA. This is the first I've heard that copies of portions of Col. Payne's papers can be obtained from UVA. How did you go about doing this? What did it cost? I'd dearly love to get a copy of his Rockingham Co. folder, as well as a few others. More to the point, if UVA will sell copies, then we need not wait for LDS to microfilm. We can simply obtain copies as we need them and post or otherwise share the material for other researchers. Kevin Thompson katatty@socket.net

Kevin and all, I can't remember all of the specifics, but as I recall, all I did was call the Library to make an inquiry about Brooke's files. The person I spoke with was familiar with them. I explained to her that it was my understanding that the Library had some strict access rules and I wanted to know what arrangements I could make to view the files since I was then planning a research trip to Virginia and Maryland. She informed me that there were no such rules on the files and that they could be viewed anytime. She also said that if I could identify particular items or sections of the files, that photocopies could be made and sent to me. With that, I simply asked if I could get photocopies made of the section pertaining to Rappahannock County. She made a check and informed me that the section was quite large (about 200 pages or so) and also incorporated Essex County. I shot the works and told her I would like the entire section. I don't recall how much I paid at the time, but I'm guessing it was between .10 and .25 per page. Your absolutely right about not needing to what for LDS to microfilm if you would just like to obtain portions of the files. However, it would be quite a task to coordinate any real effort to post the entire contents. Not impossible, just difficult. On the other hand, Rappahannock County is probably one of the bigger sections (I would think). At 200 pages and with as slow as I type it would take me months and many postings to get it all posted. But we WOULD BE ABLE to work around that if we could organize ourselves with a large number of volunteers. Using Rappahannock County as an example, with 20 volunteers willing to transcribe 10 pages each, the job for that portion of the project could be done very quickly. Even I could type up 10 pages with a day or two's effort... One approach might be to designate each of these volunteers using a numbering system, such as BPP Rappahannock County 1658-1664, BPP Rappahannock County 1664-1680, BPP Rappahannock County 1680-1720, etc. "BPP" being a useful search term that could be used later (Brooke Payne Project)... That way, when posts are made to the list, we would also be indexing the sections by date. Therefore, when someone wished to view the contents of Brookes file for Rappahannock County, all they would need to do would be to visit the List Archives and run a search using the keyword "BPP" along with whatever County they are interested in. In this case, a search would be made on "BPP Rappahannock County." The search should turn up all of the files posted with the subject lines: BPP Rappahannock County 1658-1664, etc., allowing them to narrow down their search by a range of years. In effect, we could do that for the entire contents. But it would depend on Volunteerism. A couple of people trying to do this themselves would be taking on a huge task. Even with my hypothetical 20, it would be large. In other words, the more the merrier! The biggest problem, apart from organizing the volunteers needed, would be obtaining permission from the Library to do use the records. Right across the front of each of my pages is stamped: "Unless permission is granted, neither this copy or the words on it may be: reproduced in any form, used by an unauthorized person, or placed in the collection of any institution or individual. Under the provisions of the Copyright Laws of the United States (17USC107), this single copy was produced for purposes of "private study, scholarship, or research" from the material in the Manuscripts Department, University of Virginia Library, Charlottesville, 22901." It might be argued that any such project would be for the benefit of "private study, scholarship, or research," as who else would make use of the information? If they won't agree to it being placed on Rootsweb as part of the projects they support, perhaps they would go for the idea of getting it all in electronic form for their own use to be placed on the Internet similar to the "Colonial Records Project" at the Library of Virginia. I don't see much difference. If they wouldn't agree to anything along these lines, perhaps it would at least help out the LDS in their effort and get that moving along. Regards, Patrick Payne At 06:38 PM 04/12/2002 +0000, katatty@socket.net wrote: >Dear List: > I was working my way through some e-mail I had not yet gotten to when I saw >one suggesting that copies of Col. Payne's papers can be obtained from UVA. > This is the first I've heard that copies of portions of Col. Payne's papers >can be obtained from UVA. How did you go about doing this? What did it cost? >I'd dearly love to get a copy of his Rockingham Co. folder, as well as a few >others. More to the point, if UVA will sell copies, then we need not wait for >LDS to microfilm. We can simply obtain copies as we need them and post or >otherwise share the material for other researchers. >Kevin Thompson >katatty@socket.net >

Hi Everyone, I wanted to ask again if anyone knows of a Richard Payne. He possibly may have lived somewhere around the Wilkesboro or Lexington Townships. Actually, any town would help. Thanks, Denise

Hello Everyone, Relative Genetics informed me today that we should have our test results by April 26th. Perhaps a bit sooner, but my contact thought this would be a good date. Just wanted those interested to know. Regards, Patrick Payne

Sherry Davis-Ellis, could you contact me off list? I lost your email address. Sondra Bateman "There are prayers that help us last through the day, or endure the night. There are prayers of friends and strangers, that give us strength for the journey. And there are prayers that yield our will to a will greater than our own." President George W Bush 9/14/2001

Will the person who is handling the DNA testing coordination please e-me off list? One of my other surname lists is thinking of doing the testing and we need some guidance. Thanks, Jane Drake Brody