Hi Everyone! I'm new to this group and hope that someone might have information to help me get through my brick wall. My ggggrandmother's name was Emaline Payne who was married to a John Whitney. They had three children that I am aware of. Bernice Lawrence Whitney (my gggrandfather) born in 1866 in Buffalo, NY., Charles Mentle Whitney and Mary Whitney. I got this information from Bernice's death certificate. I assume that Emaline was born around 1846 and I believe she was either born in Pennsylvania or NY. The 1900 census I found for Bernice said his mother was born in NY but his death certificate says she was born in PA. I know I am grasping at straws with no further information, I'm just hoping that someone connects with the Whitneys that may be able to help me. Becky Myers --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02

Looking for information on Mattie Payne, first wife of John D. Lucky in Alabama. She married in 1886 and had a daughter Annie Lee Lucky in 1889.

Hello to everyone, to all who wrote, I wish each one of you success in your search for information about your ancestors. George Payne native of England and Goochland Virginia, son of George Payne and _______Beckwith, married in 1704 Mary Woodson daughter of Robert Woodson, granddaughter of Dr. John Woodson He, George Payne died during the early part of 1744. George Payne married Mary Woodson in Henrico County, Virginia their son Josias Payne born October 30, 1705 married Anne Fleming, I believe she is the daughter of Charles Fleming. their son William Payne born 1733, Goochland Co. Va. married first Mary Barrett, married second Mary Thompson. Sincerely Lavinia

Hi, I'm searching for the parents/siblings of John T. Payne listed in the 1900 and 1910 Census of Walker Co. AL with birth date May 1873. He was married to Mary Francis Black and had several children. I descend from his daughter Lula Mae Payne. Any help would be appreciate. Travis Hill

So true Norm [and good to see your words again]. Norm and I have collaborated on numerous pieces of the Payne family through the years. I've spent countless hours in courthouses, cemeteries, interviewing elder relatives who were still with us etc. It's important to get your information from first hand "digging" and verify it through collaboration with others who have done the same to be truly sure. Take care Julie Payne Rush ----- Original Message ----- From: Norm and Linda Payne To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Flayle Payne I see no conflict in the record of Flayle Payne. Apparently your conflict came from looking at Compact Disc #15 Pin#277495. Marilyne, never never believe what you get on a disk or the internet. If you want the real facts put your computer aside and go out digging for the records. I spent 12 years putting together my Payne family book by traveling to courthouses, cemeteries and libraries. I never one time used a fact from the internet. Much of what I have seen by "computer genealogist" is just not true. Norm

About this book.........which line of Paynes does cover? Specifically does it have information on the Barnette Payne line? What books do have information on this line? Thank you. Bill Trott

Hello, George Payne and Mary Woodson are my ancestors. I have spent years doing research on my family lines at libraries. I have noticed mistakes on the internet on other family lines that I know were wrong I suppose if the incorrect information is listed then another person copies it, well. My line is George Payne married Mary Woodson Josias Payne married Anne Fleming William Payne married (2) Mary Thompson Sincerely Lavinia Bell

Does any have information on this family? Zachariah Payne born approx. 1802 GA wife Irena 1792 TN Children George 1830 AL Margaret 1834 AL she was married in pontontoc Co., MS to David Phillips Cansada 1836 MS Marion 1839 MS Jasper 1841 MS James 1842 MS Catherine 1849 MS Mark Leslie

BlankMy great great grandfather came from St. Claire, Alabama he was a twin, whose brother Clinton Payne was killed his third day of service in Georgia. GG grandfather was Clayton Payne in the St. Claire Sharpshooters, Alabama 58th. I am seeking any information of Paynes in or around St. Claire Alabama. Now or in the past. Clayton Payne married Martha Crook. Thanks. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/02

Looking for John Alvah PAINE b. 1793 or 1795 MA m. Sarah Searing b. 1804 Saratoga Co. NY or MD. Settled in Vigo County, IN. Children: George Edgar, Calvin, Marvin, Lucia, Laura Taylor, Cortland, Mariah.

I see no conflict in the record of Flayle Payne. Apparently your conflict came from looking at Compact Disc #15 Pin#277495. Marilyne, never never believe what you get on a disk or the internet. If you want the real facts put your computer aside and go out digging for the records. I spent 12 years putting together my Payne family book by traveling to courthouses, cemeteries and libraries. I never one time used a fact from the internet. Much of what I have seen by "computer genealogist" is just not true. Norm

There is confirmed evidence that Flayle was born and christened in London. I believe that information is the correct data. Julie Payne Rush ----- Original Message ----- From: Likjzz@aol.com To: PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: Flayle Payne I have found a conflict in recorded information for Flayle Payne. A note from the primary author of "Payne and Associated Families of Breckinridge County, Kentucky," says: Flayle was Christened Nov. 1698 in London, England to parents Thomas and Elizabeth Payne. Flayle died 1765 in Frederick Co. MD. I recently made a search on the Family Search Internet Genealogy. Flayle Payne Compact Disc #15 Pin #277495 Event(s): Birth: Place: Frederick Co., MD Nothing listed under parents or sources. Submitter: Daniel G. Bowling of Columbus GA. I checked the URL that was given, http://home.att.net/~dgbowling but was unable to access the site. I still haven't double checked if the above BOOK title is on the LDS Biography shelves. I don't know if the above information is of any value to anyone other than myself, but, who knows :-) Marilyne Short Payne

I have found a conflict in recorded information for Flayle Payne. A note from the primary author of "Payne and Associated Families of Breckinridge County, Kentucky," says: Flayle was Christened Nov. 1698 in London, England to parents Thomas and Elizabeth Payne. Flayle died 1765 in Frederick Co. MD. I recently made a search on the Family Search Internet Genealogy. Flayle Payne Compact Disc #15 Pin #277495 Event(s): Birth: Place: Frederick Co., MD Nothing listed under parents or sources. Submitter: Daniel G. Bowling of Columbus GA. I checked the URL that was given, http://home.att.net/~dgbowling but was unable to access the site. I still haven't double checked if the above BOOK title is on the LDS Biography shelves. I don't know if the above information is of any value to anyone other than myself, but, who knows :-) Marilyne Short Payne

I'm looking for additional information on Elizabeth Beatrice Payne born 6 February 1911 the apparent daughter of Victor Virgil Payne and Lucy Wood Payne. Possibility exits that this could be my birth mother. Need to know if she ever lived in Illinois and eventually in Indiana. Thanks Ed Pigeon Forge, TN

To Payne Folks, I just stumbled onto the page describing the location and proper name of the cemetery that I have taken pictures of. It is the Payne-Wirt Cemetery at Cedar Hill, located in Leedstown, Virginia. Carl F. Flemer, jr, abstracted the information and it is located on web page: http://users.erols.com/ndesign/payne.html This page is found on Danny Payne’s “The Paynes of Virginia” home page. Jim Miller To all Payne folks, The cemetery is in Virginia on the Ingleside winery property. They keep it manicured. It is not far from George Washington’s childhood home. The plaque is on the wall to the right of the bush at the end of the cemetery. I only included the ones that were clearly read. I am going back and hopefully will get them all, in different light so they are legible.; Jim

Hello Everyone, It seems that some folks out there liked the idea of a volunteer project to index Brooke's Collection at UVA and have written me to acknowledge their interest. Although I had not intended to organize such a project (just made the suggestion that it might be possible), I was curious to know how the Library would respond to such a request. So I wrote to the Director of the Special Collections Department. His response is attached below. It looks like nothing could be done until the new Special Collections Library is finished in 2004. After that, however, it appears that they might be open to such a project. Regards, Patrick Payne >Dear Mr. Payne, > > Thank you for your email concerning the Brooke Payne Collection. I am >sorry but we cannot consider such a proposal at this time. We are in the >beginning stages of constructing a new Special Collections Library underground >next to Alderman Library. Construction has begun and we expect at least a two >year construction period. We hope to enter the new building in the fall of >2004. In the meantime, we literally have no space for storage in the present >building and have used every possible inch including work space for storage, >so there is also no extra work space. Once we are established in the new >building, we could revisit your proposal and consider volunteers under the >auspices of the Library's volunteer program. > >Michael Plunkett >Director >The Albert and Shirley Small Special Collections Library >University of Virginia Library >Post Office Box 400110 >Charlottesville, VA 22904-4110 >Phone-434-924-3998 >Fax-434-924-4968 >

To all Payne folks, The cemetery is in Virginia on the Ingleside winery property. They keep it manicured. It is not far from George Washington’s childhood home. The plaque is on the wall to the right of the bush at the end of the cemetery. I only included the ones that were clearly read. I am going back and hopefully will get them all, in different light so they are legible.; Jim -----Original Message----- From: PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:06 AM To: PAYNE-D@rootsweb.com Subject: PAYNE-D Digest V02 #45

In a message dated 4/15/2002 6:25:49 AM Central Standard Time, PAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I have pictures of the Payne Cemetery and of the tombstones and plaque. > WHICH payne cemetary, please? :-) ray lewis payne

I don't know if this company still has copies of the book but I got my copy from them In 1999. This is 3rd printing hardback and is very good quality. THE PAYNES OF VIRGINIA by Brooke Payne Order from C. J. Carrier Company, P. O. Box 1114, Harrisonburg, VA 22801 (Telephone: 540-434-3535) $52.50 per copy, plus $3.00 shipping for single copies; additional copies $1.00 each if mailed to the same address at the same time. If a resident of Virginia, add $2.36 per copy Virginia sales Tax (4 1/2% of total purchase excluding shipping). David S. Payne, 1614 Chapman Rd., Anderson, SC, 29621, 864-225-3253 otime1@yahoo.com My line: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime Searching for surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA: ADDISON, ALLISON,ARENDALL, CANADY, CORBIN, COX, CRAIG, DEAN, FOWLER, HALEY, GORDON, HENSON, JAMES, McMILLIAN, McPHERSON, MOODY, PARKER, PAYNE, POINDEXTER, REDWINE, REID, SWANN, WEST, TODD, WHITMIRE --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

I am looking for information on Rachel Payne that married William Griffith. I have been trying to research Jonathan Griffith son of William Griffith, Sr. and Rachel Payne, Jonathan married Olney Parsons( Internet ) They had daughter Margaret Griffith that married George Reed. They had son Hiram Reed, Margaret than remarried and started another family with E. Altizer. Hiram Reed was my gggrandfather. According to research Rachel Payne was thought to be Cherokee, I find in a will of William Griffith,Sr. a Reubin Payne as a witness. Was Reubin Payne related to Rachel and was he the Reubin Paine in the Occaneechi- Saponi records in Pittsylvania County, Va. ? I have also find : Occaneechi - Saponi and others recorded on the Pittsylvania County, Va. 1782-1785 PAYNE, Thomas, William, Robert, Edmund , Phill PAINE , Reubin READ, James, William Jonathan Griffith and Olney Parsons were in Pittsylvania County, Va, in 1790, Franklin County, Va, 1n 1810 and 1820. William Griffith and Rachel Payne were in Pittsylvania Co., Va Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated. . Thank you , Louise Vanover Vore . ----- Original Message ----- From: <JVanZandt@aol.com> To: <PAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Payne Book - Found a copy of 1984 book. > Found a local copy of The Paynes of Wabash County, Illinois and Wilson > County, Tennessee by Lois Wittenbraker Payne, 1984. I have the listed names > (table of contents) here at home. > > Would anyone like some of the information contained therein? > > It begins with Henry Payne who married Rachel Thompson, 17 Dec. 1795 in > Orange County, NC. > > John Van Zandt > >