never tried either one, but I do know that some of St Vincents records were destroyed in a fire. But you would think that Holy Family would have baptism records for some of the children or at least a death record for Ellen, since she is buried in their cemetery. What part of Latrobe did they live in? ----- Original Message ----- The census information indicates that they lived on Depot St. in 1880, but he also owned other land.I know that they belonged to St. Vincent's. Mary Ellen **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)