In a message dated 6/6/2008 6:09:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Also, my gggrandfather shows up on page 10 - John J Bear. Any idea why that group seem to be tacked on a the end? I think this is a great resource to add depth the lives of our ancestors. Ken Bair Yes, Ken. When I first read the Ag. Census some years ago I was amazed at how well off my gr.gr.grandparents were. This was the 1860 Ag. Census. I didn't find them in the 1850, but realize -- now that it's too late to get to the NARA -- that they would have been listed in the Industrial Census. Gr.gr.gramps and his family were coopers, not farmers, at that time. I was amused to read at the beginning of the census some wry comments about the absolute veracity of the farmers. He was sure they underestimated the true value and may have hidden items. Nothing really changes. Even Matthew, the tax collector in the bible, had a problem with people trying to hide taxable income. It fleshes those bones of our ancestors to read these comments on the censuses. If anyone ever reads the Industrial Census for 1850, I would appreciate a peek at John More/Moore/Moor, cooper, at the foot of Chestnut Ridge. The listing of his possessions after he died in 1865 suggested he had a thriving and profitable business. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)