In a message dated 8/22/2008 1:55:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My knowledge of the town is a slightly earlier period than when you lived there, Shirley. Sounds like they built it up a good bit through the years. I just did a GoogleEarth check for Smithdale. Couldn't get a decent map, just an x in a box. Did they end up strip mining the area? My gosh, how often we went into the woods to supplement our diets with mushrooms, tubers, whatever was edible. Anise was a prize. I thought that the area was probably settled much earlier when river travel was the only way to reach it. The settlers learned early that the Yough was predictable when it came to overrunning it's flood plain, so they built on another level. They may have farmed the lower level as my grandpap did in another section when he lived on the second level, but for the mines to became operational, they had to scrap the level area. We had decent Victory Gardens, oh my, those tomatoes, and Mom's flowers were lovely. Grandma had showplace hollyhocks. The Italians planted vineyards equal to any I saw in Italy. I imagine the lower level was very fertile at one time. I think that is probably it, Paul. It was a settlement along the river but when coal was discovered, roads and railroads were built. I will keep your messages, because my Greatgreat grandfather, Cyrus John Sholey, was a coal miner in 1880 Sutersville. I never knew which mine. I'll want to investigate that, too. Shirley Maynard Hampton,VA **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Ocean No. 1 Mine is somewhere in the Suterville vicinity, on that side of the Yough. Perhaps other mines also. I am not familiar with mines on that side of the river. My passion has been the mines and railroads on the west side of the Yough. No ancestors, just a hobby like genealogy. My PA ancestors came to Westmoreland County from Franklin County PA, as did many other W'moreland pioneers, but primariny in Derry Salem and Allegheny Townships. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Coal miners > > In a message dated 8/22/2008 1:55:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > My knowledge of the town is a slightly earlier period than when you lived > there, Shirley. Sounds like they built it up a good bit through the > years. > > > > I just did a GoogleEarth check for Smithdale. Couldn't get a decent map, > just an x in a box. Did they end up strip mining the area? My gosh, how > often > we went into the woods to supplement our diets with mushrooms, tubers, > whatever was edible. Anise was a prize. > I thought that the area was probably settled much earlier when river > travel > was the only way to reach it. The settlers learned early that the Yough > was > predictable > when it came to overrunning it's flood plain, so they built on another > level. > > They may have farmed the lower level as my grandpap did in another section > when he lived on the second level, but for the mines to became > operational, > they had to scrap the level area. We had decent Victory Gardens, oh my, > those > tomatoes, and Mom's flowers were lovely. Grandma had showplace > hollyhocks. > The Italians planted vineyards equal to any I saw in Italy. I imagine > the > lower level was very fertile at one time. > > I think that is probably it, Paul. It was a settlement along the river > but > when coal was discovered, roads and railroads were built. > > I will keep your messages, because my Greatgreat grandfather, Cyrus John > Sholey, was a coal miner in 1880 Sutersville. I never knew which mine. > I'll > want to investigate that, too. > > Shirley Maynard > Hampton,VA > > > > > > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was at a cemetery this week and found a couple of flag holders like this one http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paerie/cemeteries/pics/FLT-IOOF-424.jpg What does F L T stand for? Linda

Linda, This is what I've heard they mean: " FLT is an acronym for "Friendship, Love, Truth" used by the Independent Order of Odd Fellows." Nathan Zipfel Westmoreland County Genealogy Project http://www.pa-roots.com/~westmoreland/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAWESTMO] flag holder I was at a cemetery this week and found a couple of flag holders like this one http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paerie/cemeteries/pics/FLT-IOOF-424.jpg What does F L T stand for? Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message