In a message dated 10/22/2011 21:07:04 Eastern Standard Time, denecke913@gmail.com writes: Do you have a Charles Shupe (b. abt 1852, Pennsylvania, died in New Mexico in 1891) married Ada/Adelaide Crowther in 1880 Pennsylvania? I don't, Amy, but I didn't research John Shoup, Louis's brother. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA