I too, came up with nothing. Nothing in WW1 Draft Regs, 1910 & 1930 census, Ancestry arrival records, Ancestry naturalization records, SteveMorse.org arrival records, SocSecDI, Find a Grave. I suspect it may be something like Zarchanski, but I did not search on that. I included searches on given name with no surname with b.Poland & birth dates. And considering Birth dates: in 1920 these 2 fellows said they both arrived 1905. That makes them 2years old and 0 years old (infant) (they were 18 & 20 in 1920) So where are the parents who accompanied those two babies??? Bella Apr 27, 2011 04:21:48 PM, pawestmo@rootsweb.com wrote: I suspect that their surname may be another spelling since I am coming up with nothing. The closest phonetic spelling I have found so far is Sorzynoki. Do you have an obituary for Sophia Jasien? That might provide some clues. Dawne -----Original Message----- From: pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kerbermnr@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:36 PM To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAWESTMO] SARCENKI (spelling?) Looking for more information on Andy and Frank Sarcenki (not sure of spelling) that appear in the 1920 census with Sigman and Sophia Jasien and family. 1920 U.S. Federal Census, Mt. Plesant Township, Spring Garden District, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, January 18, 1920 No. 2 Standard Works (Source: S.D. 18, E.D. #169, Sheet 14B) Sarcenki, Andy; Nephew; Male; White; Age 18; Single; Immigrated 1905, alien; Attended school since September 1, 1919, no; Able to read and write, yes; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English; Occupation, miner at coal mine Sarcenki, Frank; Nephew; Male; White; Age 20; Single; Immigrated 1905, alien; Attended school since September 1, 1919, no; Able to read and write, yes; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English; Occupation, miner at coal mine Jasien, Sigman; Head; Rents; Male; White; Age 49; Married; Immigrated 1902, alien; Able to read and write, no; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English; Occupation, Miner at coal mine Jasien, Sophia; Wife; Female; White; Age 48; Married; Immigrated 1905, alien; Able to read and write, no; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English Thank you in advance. Jill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It might be helpful to explore the names in the Westmoreland Counties online vital records searches. Here's a link: http://westmorelandweb400.us:8088/EGSPublicAccess.htm Jasien is definitely there as is the name Sarco. There might be a name change on record and this family might show up in the same cemetery as the Jasien's. You might also take a look at the 28th Division 5 volume series on my military page: http://military.donslist.net This was a reserve division during WW1 with over 40,000 men from Western PA. If you find someone in there, you're likely to find their picture too. Don Don Krieger - Pittsburgh, PA http://www.DonsList.Net - Always fast. Always free. -----Original Message----- From: pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lapiu.bella1@verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:07 PM To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] SARCENKI (spelling?) I too, came up with nothing. Nothing in WW1 Draft Regs, 1910 & 1930 census, Ancestry arrival records, Ancestry naturalization records, SteveMorse.org arrival records, SocSecDI, Find a Grave. I suspect it may be something like Zarchanski, but I did not search on that. I included searches on given name with no surname with b.Poland & birth dates. And considering Birth dates: in 1920 these 2 fellows said they both arrived 1905. That makes them 2years old and 0 years old (infant) (they were 18 & 20 in 1920) So where are the parents who accompanied those two babies??? Bella Apr 27, 2011 04:21:48 PM, pawestmo@rootsweb.com wrote: I suspect that their surname may be another spelling since I am coming up with nothing. The closest phonetic spelling I have found so far is Sorzynoki. Do you have an obituary for Sophia Jasien? That might provide some clues. Dawne -----Original Message----- From: pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kerbermnr@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:36 PM To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAWESTMO] SARCENKI (spelling?) Looking for more information on Andy and Frank Sarcenki (not sure of spelling) that appear in the 1920 census with Sigman and Sophia Jasien and family. 1920 U.S. Federal Census, Mt. Plesant Township, Spring Garden District, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, January 18, 1920 No. 2 Standard Works (Source: S.D. 18, E.D. #169, Sheet 14B) Sarcenki, Andy; Nephew; Male; White; Age 18; Single; Immigrated 1905, alien; Attended school since September 1, 1919, no; Able to read and write, yes; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English; Occupation, miner at coal mine Sarcenki, Frank; Nephew; Male; White; Age 20; Single; Immigrated 1905, alien; Attended school since September 1, 1919, no; Able to read and write, yes; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English; Occupation, miner at coal mine Jasien, Sigman; Head; Rents; Male; White; Age 49; Married; Immigrated 1902, alien; Able to read and write, no; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English; Occupation, Miner at coal mine Jasien, Sophia; Wife; Female; White; Age 48; Married; Immigrated 1905, alien; Able to read and write, no; Born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Father born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Mother born in Poland, Mother tongue, Polish; Able to speak English Thank you in advance. Jill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We need help with a brick wall on my husband's side of the family. Two brothers, Christopher and Mathias Niedt from Germany, entered the colonies via Philadelphia in 1752 and moved to the Frederick / Washington County area of Maryland. They came on different ships about a month apart. Christopher Need, age about 70, shows up in the 1790 Federal Census in the Hagerstown, Maryland area. Mathias is also known to have moved to the same area and operated a leather tannery. Christopher had three sons, Johan Christof b.1734 Germany, George b.1740 Germany and Jacob. I'm not sure if they were Lutheran or German Baptist. They seemed to migrate with a number of other families; Nommaker, Tomer, Wagoner, Brown, Roher, Rinehart, Ott, Ramsey, Waite. This migration pattern was likely due to their German heritage, they may have even came from the same part of Germany since many arrived on the two ships together. The group splintered into several smaller groups, with the smaller groups going off to Ohio, Tennessee and later traveling deeper into the west. But the main group seemed to stay in Maryland, until suddenly the whole group decided to migrate from the Hagerstown Maryland area to Bedford and finally Huntingdon County Pennsylvania around 1800. Was there anything that happened about that time which would have caused this wholesale migration? Since the counties of Huntingdon and Bedford split about this time we have had trouble finding out where the group settled prior to coming to rest around Three Springs, PA. We have looked in census records in Maryland and both Bedford and Huntingdon Counties in Pennsylvania to no avail. Do you have any suggestions on what records would be available that could help us discover where might have been between 1800 and 1840? We're thinking that they were somewhere in western PA. Thanks for any suggestions, Linda Nead