Jacob Shoop was from Freeport, Armstrong County. I've seen & read this publication, "The Diary of Jacob Shoop". It was done as a masters thesis by a Freeport-area author named Gary Link. Mr. Link has produced 3 very nice historical novels based in the Pittsburgh area beginning 1845. The first is set during the Great Fire of Pittsburgh in 1845, it is called "The Burnt District", the 2nd is set in 1846, the 3rd in 1847. I get the order of the 2nd & 3rd mixed up but their titles are :"The Spectrum" and "The Throughway". All 3 are great and easy reads. The last one concerns the Underground Railroad & runaway slaves in Western PA. I believe Mr. Link used Jacob Shoop as a character in all 3 of his novels. Jacob Shoop was an entrepreneur, and began a family-owned clothing store which survived until very recently. The oldest continuously operating clothing store by one family in Western PA. the Diary is NOT indexed, although the Local History Dept, Community Library in Tarentum PA has self-produced an everyname index for it. many Freeport area residents are mentioned in it, circa-1845-ish. Bella Apr 15, 2011 12:23:09 PM, pawestmo@rootsweb.com wrote: Barb -- Can you tell me if this Jacob Shoop was from Westmoreland Co., and if so, what Twp.? I have Shupe ancestors. Janet ---- Barb Lorensen wrote: > Good morning > I was sent some sheets with cemetery information > I have these sheets to share > Maysville Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery and > Maysville Hill Cemetery > also > Excerpts from THE WEATHER BOOK 1848 - 1870 THE DIARY of JACOB SHOOP > > If you want these sheets send me an e-mail to lllorensen@sbcglobal.net > and I will send them to you > Barb > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 4/14/2011 20:42:06 Eastern Standard Time, zimmerman409@charter.net writes: If someone uses the Greensburg Hempfield Area Library in Greensburg for your genealogy research, the next time you visit that library would you be kind enough to review the microfilm the library claims to posess, for the Tribune Herald of 25 November, 1879 and see if the Death Notice for Mr Zimmerman includes more than the following: Dawne sent me a site that had digital images of the newspaper from Greensburg but I've lost it. Maybe she will see this and send it again so you can check online. I'm sorry but I don't remember the exact dates covered, other than up to 1950. I'm about ready to begin work in the newspaper, myself. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA

In a message dated 4/14/2011 19:45:30 Eastern Standard Time, alissa.booth@comcast.net writes: I did see an Iowa census that lists Mary Moore from Pennsylvania in 1925 with father John Borland and mother Margaret Carnes. Now, I know John and Margaret had a son John Jr. that served in the War of 1812. This could quite possibly be the John and Eliza that you see in the 1850 and 1860 censuses with a daughter Margaret. Could be there was just a mix up by the daughter between the wives of the two Johns? There is a report of Pennsylvanian ex-soldiers living in Iowa that lists a John Borland. I've forwarded this to a descendant of Mary Borland Moore. We wondered if perhaps daughter Susan didn't really understand the form and may have listed "her" mother and then once again "her mother" -- actually Mary's grandmother, Margaret Carns. You know like our mobile society wasn't overly educated and when asked by an enumerator "where you from?" would list the last place they lived, not where they were born. . I wasn't aware of an 1812 veteran John Borland or the report of PA ex-soldiers living in Iowa. We would have two Moores, Cornelius and Alexander in Iowa, both served from Westmoreland Co. We'll have to look into that. Could you direct us to the site? Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA

Good morning I was sent some sheets with cemetery information I have these sheets to share Maysville Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery and Maysville Hill Cemetery also Excerpts from THE WEATHER BOOK 1848 - 1870 THE DIARY of JACOB SHOOP If you want these sheets send me an e-mail to lllorensen@sbcglobal.net and I will send them to you Barb

Hi Everyone, An extensive and growing collection of valuable genealogical resources has appeared on the Internet Archive website. A partial list may be found at [1]http://www.archive.org/details/allen_county Included in the series held on the website so far are: - the US decennial census for 1800 - 1930, - the soundex index for the census for 1880 and 1900 (1910 is partially completed), - an alphabetical index for service records of US soldiers in the War of 1812, - service records of both Confederate and Union soldiers in the Civil War, - service records of US soldiers in the American Revolution, - US passport applications: 1795-1905, - and more. These are raw digitized versions of microfilm reels held by the US National Archives. Each reel has its own webpage which includes an online reader and links which enable downloading the entire digitized reel in various formats. Each webpage also includes a brief description of the contents of the reel and usually includes information about its place in the larger microfilm series of which it's a member. This is an extraordinary library resource which lacks human archivists to help us find things. In an effort to partially fill this lack, we have two new resources: - A new mailing list has been created to enable sharing of information and expertise regarding how to find records, how the records are organized, etc. The list is hosted by RootsWeb and may be found at [2]http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/DIGITAL-ARCH IVES.html - A web page has been created to provide finding guides. The page is hosted by DonsList and may be found at [3]http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/GuidesM.htm . If you are someone who has sent for a record at the National Archives, or someone who might wish to do so, or someone who is interested in accessing these records, or an archivist or librarian, etc., please consider subscribing to the mailing list and visiting the website. Hopefully the discussion on the mailing list will provide direction and improved understanding for all of us. From time to time, those who subscribe may wish to assemble what has been learned about specific series into "help" text which can be posted to the website along with improvements to the finding guides there. The material on the website will be restricted to simple .html files which can be copied and used on any website whose owners wish to host them, e.g. libraries with genealogical holdings. Please consider cross posting this to other lists where appropriate. Thank you. Don http://www.donslist.net Always free, always fast References 1. http://www.archive.org/details/allen_county 2. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/DIGITAL-ARCHIVES.html 3. http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/GuidesM.htm

Christine,     There is a William Carns listed in the obituaries.  It is listed as: Carns, William of LIgonier died  7-13-1877 at the home of his son Alexander he was aged 90 yrs., 9 mos and 2 days.  (TRIBUNE - HERALD 07-18-1877)  Hope this is of some help to you. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "lapiu bella1" <lapiu.bella1@verizon.net> To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:25:49 AM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] William Carnes    Can we help?  Well maybe.    I have done some census searches for the folks you name, however, before    I take the time to type them up for posting here, do you already have    them traced on the census? If you have found them almost impossible to find    on the census    it is because the enumerators spelled their surname in various ways.    I found them both in 1900, and as you know that census shows the month and    year of birth    which should help you greatly. And since any death after that will tend to    be listed somewhere    you may be in luck. Before any lister jumps on that statement, any death for    these 2 could be listed: in the    WestmoCo 1893-1905 Early Deaths at the Courthouse, or the post-1906 records    at the State, or,    if you are truly lucky, in a newspaper. Considering I could find William    back to 1850, perhaps he    rates a newsarticle death notice since he was a long time resident. Check    the Adams Dead-a-Base    in WestmoCo genealogy sources. Google it as I do when I need it. Check    Find-a-Grave, too.    Bella    Apr 13, 2011 06:13:32 PM, pawestmo@rootsweb.com wrote:      Hello,      I am looking for at least the Birth and death dates for William G. Carnes,      a      Civil War soldier.      He was married to Isabelle Wilt      They lived in Westmoreland County, Ligonier Township.      Can anyone help?      Thank you,      Christine Williams      2nd great granddaughter      -------------------------------      To   unsubscribe   from   the   list,   please  send  an  email  to      PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the      quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If someone uses the Greensburg Hempfield Area Library in Greensburg for your genealogy research, the next time you visit that library would you be kind enough to review the microfilm the library claims to posess, for the Tribune Herald of 25 November, 1879 and see if the Death Notice for Mr Zimmerman includes more than the following: "ZIMMERMAN, Mr. of Patton Twp, Allegheny Co, died 1879 age 82 years." The Mr. Zimmerman in question is William Zimmerman, born somewhere in Pennsylvania in 1797 +/- and is the son of Michael Zimmerman. William married Elizabeth Jordan daughter of the Revolutionary War veteran James Jordan. William is also my GGGrandfather. This gesture would be greatly appreciated. David Zimmerman Howell, Michigan

Hi. I haven't done too much with the Borlands. This bit with the wrong grave marker has me batty enough! I did see an Iowa census that lists Mary Moore from Pennsylvania in 1925 with father John Borland and mother Margaret Carnes. Now, I know John and Margaret had a son John Jr. that served in the War of 1812. This could quite possibly be the John and Eliza that you see in the 1850 and 1860 censuses with a daughter Margaret. Could be there was just a mix up by the daughter between the wives of the two Johns? There is a report of Pennsylvanian ex-soldiers living in Iowa that lists a John Borland. Good luck! If you discover anything, I'd love to know. And if you know how to correct this gravestone error, I'm open to ideas! Alissa On 4/14/2011 12:05 PM, MaeMay510@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/14/2011 08:59:58 Eastern Standard Time, > alissa.booth@comcast.net writes: > > > Good luck. BTW I'm related to a Margaret Carnes b. 1764 who married > John Borland. Is that a relation? > > > > > Hello there, I have Mary Agnes Borland who married Cornelius Moore in 1863 > during the Civil War. They slipped to Pittsburgh to get married. > Her daughter put "Margaret Carnes" as Mary's mother on her death > certificate in 1925, but I have serious doubts since there is a generation > difference. Margaret was mentioned as born in Ireland in Albert's 1882 history. > I found John Borland and wife Elizabeth, both born in PA, as parents in > the 1860 census in Salem, Westmoreland Co., PA. Listed as children were > John, Mary, Margaret, Elizabeth, Hannah, Isabella, Robert, Sarah, and James > Borland. With them were a family of FRYs. > > One of the Borlands, John and perhaps a wife, were witnesses at a > daughter's wedding. a daughter of Mary and Neil in Elgin, Fayette Co., IA in 1894. > . > I've never been able to separate the Borlands in Westmoreland and wonder if > you know of this John and Elizabeth, parents of the above children? > > Shirley Maynard > Hampton, VA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3573 - Release Date: 04/14/11 02:34:00 >

In a message dated 4/14/2011 08:59:58 Eastern Standard Time, alissa.booth@comcast.net writes: Good luck. BTW I'm related to a Margaret Carnes b. 1764 who married John Borland. Is that a relation? Hello there, I have Mary Agnes Borland who married Cornelius Moore in 1863 during the Civil War. They slipped to Pittsburgh to get married. Her daughter put "Margaret Carnes" as Mary's mother on her death certificate in 1925, but I have serious doubts since there is a generation difference. Margaret was mentioned as born in Ireland in Albert's 1882 history. I found John Borland and wife Elizabeth, both born in PA, as parents in the 1860 census in Salem, Westmoreland Co., PA. Listed as children were John, Mary, Margaret, Elizabeth, Hannah, Isabella, Robert, Sarah, and James Borland. With them were a family of FRYs. One of the Borlands, John and perhaps a wife, were witnesses at a daughter's wedding. a daughter of Mary and Neil in Elgin, Fayette Co., IA in 1894. . I've never been able to separate the Borlands in Westmoreland and wonder if you know of this John and Elizabeth, parents of the above children? Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA

My favorite resources besides the ones offered already for Civil War vets are ARIAS for the Civil War card which often lists age at enrollment, and pension files. I use a fabulous researcher instead of NARAS and get the pensions quicker, cheaper and digitally. If you don't have Ancestry.com, many libraries offer Heritage Quest for censuses. Mine does and I can access it from home with my library card. PLEASE, though, double and triple check everything against multiple sources. I just discovered my great great grandfather's Civil War veteran's marker was placed on the wrong man's grave. Good luck. BTW I'm related to a Margaret Carnes b. 1764 who married John Borland. Is that a relation?

Can we help? Well maybe. I have done some census searches for the folks you name, however, before I take the time to type them up for posting here, do you already have them traced on the census? If you have found them almost impossible to find on the census it is because the enumerators spelled their surname in various ways. I found them both in 1900, and as you know that census shows the month and year of birth which should help you greatly. And since any death after that will tend to be listed somewhere you may be in luck. Before any lister jumps on that statement, any death for these 2 could be listed: in the WestmoCo 1893-1905 Early Deaths at the Courthouse, or the post-1906 records at the State, or, if you are truly lucky, in a newspaper. Considering I could find William back to 1850, perhaps he rates a newsarticle death notice since he was a long time resident. Check the Adams Dead-a-Base in WestmoCo genealogy sources. Google it as I do when I need it. Check Find-a-Grave, too. Bella Apr 13, 2011 06:13:32 PM, pawestmo@rootsweb.com wrote: Hello, I am looking for at least the Birth and death dates for William G. Carnes, a Civil War soldier. He was married to Isabelle Wilt They lived in Westmoreland County, Ligonier Township. Can anyone help? Thank you, Christine Williams 2nd great granddaughter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am looking for at least the Birth and death dates for William G. Carnes, a Civil War soldier. He was married to Isabelle Wilt They lived in Westmoreland County, Ligonier Township. Can anyone help? Thank you, Christine Williams 2nd great granddaughter

Shirley wrote <Have you looked at _www.genforum.com_ (http://www.genforum.com) in the FISHER section? You may find more there.> Thank you, Shirley, for reminding me about that site. Now I just have to remember my log in and password. I see there are quite a few postings regarding Fishers. Sherry

In a message dated 4/8/2011 06:53:33 Eastern Standard Time, samc123@zoominternet.net writes: I'm not very familiar with Westmoreland County records, but I am going to be in Salt Lake next month, so if they have been microfilmed, Have you looked at _www.genforum.com_ (http://www.genforum.com) in the FISHER section? You may find more there. I have a bit of information on Adam Fisher, born about 1820 in PA, on that site and you can ask those specializing in FISHER surname if they know of the book. . There is a lot of film for the county at SLC. I went to the state archives in Harrisburg and found it there too. Shirley Maynard Hampton,VA Daniel H. Fisher, born Dec. 1859, found on 1880 census with parents Adam and Elizabeth Fisher, married 17 Dec. 1888, Emma R. Brown, daughter of James B. and Margaret Moore Brown. Daniel died 30 April, 1938 in Omaha. Emma died 6 Aug. 1940 in KC, MO. .

Margaret, Thank you for your suggestion. I'm not very familiar with Westmoreland County records, but I am going to be in Salt Lake next month, so if they have been microfilmed, I will look at them then. Unfortunately, "A History of one of the Fisher Families by One of them," which I assume was written by this Stephen Fisher is not listed in the LDS family history card catalog. I just wish I could read the whole article and not just that small portion. I thought perhaps someone on the list had seen the article or could tell me where I could find the book. Many thanks, Sherry Margaret wrote, <You might try contacting the Westmoreland Genealogy Society. Orphan Court Records are held at the Courthouse in Greensburg, PA.> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Sherry Shallenberger < > samc123@zoominternet.net> wrote: > >> I have joined this list, because I just I found a reference to >> Westmoreland >> County, PA Migration, which makes a very interesting statement >> (paraphrased >> from "A History of one of the Fisher Families by One of them") "Joseph >> and >> his young son, John, were killed by the Indians in the raid on >> Hannastown...His minor children were appointed guardians in Orphans >> Court... >> >> and also another link under "Migration to Westmoreland County, >> Pennsylvania", regarding Fisher, Abel 1773 by Stephen Fisher, which says >> it >> is also paraphrased from the same book. Unfortunately, my e-mail to >> Stephen >> Fisher came back as undeliverable and most of the article is not listed >> on-line. >> >> I would love to find out where I can find more information on this book >> or >> more about this Fisher family. I am trying to find out how Col. John >> Cotton >> (born abt 1751 Marsh Creek, York, Pa, died 24 Apr 1830 Vernon Twp., >> Crawford >> Co., Pa, married 16 Feb 1786 in Washington, Pa to Margaret Stockton) >> ended >> up with the indenture of my gggg grandmother, Sarah (Sally) Fisher, born >> 1822. Col. Cotton leaves the indenture of Sally Fisher in his will to >> his >> daughter, Peggy Cotton. Peggy (Margaret Cotton - who never married) ends >> up >> raising Sally and in the 1870 and 1880 census records of Vernon Twp, is >> living with Sarah and her husband, David Williams. >> >> Some of the Cotton family information suggests Sally's parents were >> killed >> by Indians. In a DAR application, Col Cotton is said to have been sent >> as >> Capt against Moravian Indians, but this would have been way too early for >> Sally's parents. I believe somewhere I also read he served in the War >> of >> 1812 as well, but that also seems too early, as she wasn't born until >> 1822. >> Does anyone have any ideas, or know where I can find that book, orphans >> court records, info on Fisher children, etc...? I would be very grateful >> for any and all suggestions. >> >> Thank you in advance for your help, >> Sherry Shallenberger >>

Sherry, You might try contacting the Westmoreland Genealogy Society. Orphan Court Records are held at the Courthouse in Greensburg, PA. Margaret On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Sherry Shallenberger < samc123@zoominternet.net> wrote: > I have joined this list, because I just I found a reference to Westmoreland > County, PA Migration, which makes a very interesting statement (paraphrased > from "A History of one of the Fisher Families by One of them") "Joseph and > his young son, John, were killed by the Indians in the raid on > Hannastown...His minor children were appointed guardians in Orphans Court... > > and also another link under "Migration to Westmoreland County, > Pennsylvania", regarding Fisher, Abel 1773 by Stephen Fisher, which says it > is also paraphrased from the same book. Unfortunately, my e-mail to Stephen > Fisher came back as undeliverable and most of the article is not listed > on-line. > > I would love to find out where I can find more information on this book or > more about this Fisher family. I am trying to find out how Col. John Cotton > (born abt 1751 Marsh Creek, York, Pa, died 24 Apr 1830 Vernon Twp., Crawford > Co., Pa, married 16 Feb 1786 in Washington, Pa to Margaret Stockton) ended > up with the indenture of my gggg grandmother, Sarah (Sally) Fisher, born > 1822. Col. Cotton leaves the indenture of Sally Fisher in his will to his > daughter, Peggy Cotton. Peggy (Margaret Cotton - who never married) ends up > raising Sally and in the 1870 and 1880 census records of Vernon Twp, is > living with Sarah and her husband, David Williams. > > Some of the Cotton family information suggests Sally's parents were killed > by Indians. In a DAR application, Col Cotton is said to have been sent as > Capt against Moravian Indians, but this would have been way too early for > Sally's parents. I believe somewhere I also read he served in the War of > 1812 as well, but that also seems too early, as she wasn't born until 1822. > Does anyone have any ideas, or know where I can find that book, orphans > court records, info on Fisher children, etc...? I would be very grateful > for any and all suggestions. > > Thank you in advance for your help, > Sherry Shallenberger > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have joined this list, because I just I found a reference to Westmoreland County, PA Migration, which makes a very interesting statement (paraphrased from "A History of one of the Fisher Families by One of them") "Joseph and his young son, John, were killed by the Indians in the raid on Hannastown...His minor children were appointed guardians in Orphans Court... and also another link under "Migration to Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania", regarding Fisher, Abel 1773 by Stephen Fisher, which says it is also paraphrased from the same book. Unfortunately, my e-mail to Stephen Fisher came back as undeliverable and most of the article is not listed on-line. I would love to find out where I can find more information on this book or more about this Fisher family. I am trying to find out how Col. John Cotton (born abt 1751 Marsh Creek, York, Pa, died 24 Apr 1830 Vernon Twp., Crawford Co., Pa, married 16 Feb 1786 in Washington, Pa to Margaret Stockton) ended up with the indenture of my gggg grandmother, Sarah (Sally) Fisher, born 1822. Col. Cotton leaves the indenture of Sally Fisher in his will to his daughter, Peggy Cotton. Peggy (Margaret Cotton - who never married) ends up raising Sally and in the 1870 and 1880 census records of Vernon Twp, is living with Sarah and her husband, David Williams. Some of the Cotton family information suggests Sally's parents were killed by Indians. In a DAR application, Col Cotton is said to have been sent as Capt against Moravian Indians, but this would have been way too early for Sally's parents. I believe somewhere I also read he served in the War of 1812 as well, but that also seems too early, as she wasn't born until 1822. Does anyone have any ideas, or know where I can find that book, orphans court records, info on Fisher children, etc...? I would be very grateful for any and all suggestions. Thank you in advance for your help, Sherry Shallenberger

Pat, I would be interested in purchasing them from you, if my request is not too late. Please advise cost and if you'll ship them, at my expense. Lois Combs On Apr 5, 2011, at 3:00 AM, pawestmo-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Westmoreland periodicals (Patricia Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 22:44:12 -0400 > From: Patricia Johnson <gnepat8@att.net> > Subject: [PAWESTMO] Westmoreland periodicals > To: PAWESTMO@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D9A81FC.702@att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > The following was donated for a used book sale in Dayton, OH. If anyone > is interested in them, please contact me at gnepat8@aatt.net > > Old Westmoreland: The History and Genealogy of Westmoreland, PA. 4 > issues Volume 1, #1-4. 1980 > > Pat Johnson > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PAWESTMO list administrator, send an email to > PAWESTMO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PAWESTMO mailing list, send an email to PAWESTMO@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PAWESTMO Digest, Vol 6, Issue 31 > ***************************************

The following was donated for a used book sale in Dayton, OH. If anyone is interested in them, please contact me at gnepat8@aatt.net Old Westmoreland: The History and Genealogy of Westmoreland, PA. 4 issues Volume 1, #1-4. 1980 Pat Johnson

If anyone has researched the Shannon name for the period 1790-1820, I am searching for the children's names and birth years. The 1810 census has four Shannons in three different townships, but of course no names other than head of household. Thanks for any help, Cathy