In a message dated 2/26/2012 08:30:14 Eastern Standard Time, ellen@b-n-s.com writes: Thanks for getting that straightened out Fred. Now I really feel old brain wise too. That's where my Uncle went to college, of course, but I wasn't even thinking about that. I don't know what it would take to get access to the records, but before I'd be a person to go there, I would write to them and see what it takes to get in to them. There may be some restrictions. I found restrictions in a college in the midwest. So I called in a gene. favor I'd done for a kissin' cousin who just happened to work in admissions at a college in Oregon and he was able to get a copy of some items for me through his privileges. I was able to add 3 generations and even got an autobio of the person in question that added data to two other sides of the Moore family. An in-law kissin' cousin wrote to a priest at a Catholic Church in New York and he sent her (and she to me) data on her family. . Those "links" can be important when you need to get through a restriction. Shirley

Thanks for getting that straightened out Fred. Now I really feel old brain wise too. That's where my Uncle went to college, of course, but I wasn't even thinking about that. I don't know what it would take to get access to the records, but before I'd be a person to go there, I would write to them and see what it takes to get in to them. There may be some restrictions. Ellen Ballas -----Original Message----- From: pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred H Held Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:08 AM To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com; rcrdskpr@aol.com Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? Bill, The Lutheran archive used by my church in Armstrong Co is Thiel College in Greenville. Today it is a liberal arts collage, but in former years it was a Lutheran seminary. Fred At 02:00 AM 2/26/2012, you wrote: >From: rcrdskpr@aol.com >Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? >To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com > >ellen, >are the lutheran archives available for research, and where are they >located? anything locally? >bill bowman ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4f4a209a72c351b3ebc4st05duc ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, The Lutheran archive used by my church in Armstrong Co is Thiel College in Greenville. Today it is a liberal arts collage, but in former years it was a Lutheran seminary. Fred At 02:00 AM 2/26/2012, you wrote: >From: rcrdskpr@aol.com >Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? >To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com > >ellen, >are the lutheran archives available for research, and where are they >located? anything locally? >bill bowman ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4f4a209a72c351b3ebc4st05duc

I believe old church records are housed at Oberlin college in OH. Won't swear to this but it is what I remember. Georgia -----Original Message----- From: MaeMay510@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:35 PM To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? In a message dated 2/25/2012 12:45:01 Eastern Standard Time, ellen@b-n-s.com writes: I'm not sure if they are. I think it is in Greenville or Zelinople. I think any Lutheran minister would know that answer, if they are of the right division of Lutherans. My uncle is deceased so I can't talk to him about it. I remember seeing a drawing of a Lutheran church building on the cover of a book. I think Clawson's book of Joiners. I had a copy at one time. I believe it existed before my Johannes Conrad Mohr family arrived in Westmoreland Co. in ca. 1838. Then my great uncle Ben Mo(o)re was married by a Lutheran minister in 1851 or so. His marriage to Catherine Albert was listed. >From my notes: _Brush Creek Lutheran Church Westmoreland County, Penna., Marriages 1820 to 1865_. Compiled by Fort Hand DAR, 1935. "Record of Marriages of Jonas Mechling." Jonas Mechling was the Evangelical Lutheran Minister of the Gospel, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co., PA. Catherine was from Mount. Pleasant. So Lutheran records do exist but where and in what condition I can't say. But let's face it, sometimes the records were no more than notes in a circuit preacher's pockets. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 2/25/2012 12:45:01 Eastern Standard Time, ellen@b-n-s.com writes: I'm not sure if they are. I think it is in Greenville or Zelinople. I think any Lutheran minister would know that answer, if they are of the right division of Lutherans. My uncle is deceased so I can't talk to him about it. I remember seeing a drawing of a Lutheran church building on the cover of a book. I think Clawson's book of Joiners. I had a copy at one time. I believe it existed before my Johannes Conrad Mohr family arrived in Westmoreland Co. in ca. 1838. Then my great uncle Ben Mo(o)re was married by a Lutheran minister in 1851 or so. His marriage to Catherine Albert was listed. >From my notes: _Brush Creek Lutheran Church Westmoreland County, Penna., Marriages 1820 to 1865_. Compiled by Fort Hand DAR, 1935. "Record of Marriages of Jonas Mechling." Jonas Mechling was the Evangelical Lutheran Minister of the Gospel, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co., PA. Catherine was from Mount. Pleasant. So Lutheran records do exist but where and in what condition I can't say. But let's face it, sometimes the records were no more than notes in a circuit preacher's pockets. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA

I'm not sure if they are. I think it is in Greenville or Zelinople. I think any Lutheran minister would know that answer, if they are of the right division of Lutherans. My uncle is deceased so I can't talk to him about it. Ellen

ellen, are the lutheran archives available for research, and where are they located? anything locally? bill bowman -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Ballas <ellen@b-n-s.com> To: pawestmo <pawestmo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 5:08 am Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? Dear Barbara & George, This is true. My uncle was one of the very last pastors for St. John's n the last years is was in existence also. I don't know who was in charge hen he retired. I believe all the records would now be in the Lutheran rchives, as at the closing of the parish, they would have been turned in to hem. Hope they all are, because my youngest son was baptized there in 970. -----Original Message----- rom: pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com] n Behalf Of Barbara & George Grenier ent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:51 PM o: pawestmo@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? did a quick look on oogle http://discover.hsp.org/Record/hsp.opac.v01-288382 nd found this book listed enmark Manor Lutheran Church (separated from St. John's, Boquet, in 888), Penn Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, parish ecords, 1888-1912 / y Paul Miller Ruff looks like you need to look at St John's Barbara t 09:23 AM 2/24/2012, you wrote: Hi, Are there many Lutheran church records still available? I'm specifically looking for records from about 1780 to 1840, and the church I most see in my research is called Denmark Manor Lutheran Church in Penn Township. I appreciate any information possible. Although I've been at this for several decades, I haven't dealved much into church records, other than the churches I was already familiar with, but it appears that I'm going to need that aspect with my Pennsylvania ancestors! Thanks, Jan Rader Kent, Ohio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes n the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Dear Barbara & George, This is true. My uncle was one of the very last pastors for St. John's in the last years is was in existence also. I don't know who was in charge when he retired. I believe all the records would now be in the Lutheran Archives, as at the closing of the parish, they would have been turned in to them. Hope they all are, because my youngest son was baptized there in 1970. -----Original Message----- From: pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pawestmo-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara & George Grenier Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:51 PM To: pawestmo@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? I did a quick look on Google http://discover.hsp.org/Record/hsp.opac.v01-288382 and found this book listed Denmark Manor Lutheran Church (separated from St. John's, Boquet, in 1888), Penn Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, parish records, 1888-1912 / by Paul Miller Ruff looks like you need to look at St John's Barbara At 09:23 AM 2/24/2012, you wrote: >Hi, >Are there many Lutheran church records still available? I'm >specifically looking for records from about 1780 to 1840, and the >church I most see in my research is called Denmark Manor Lutheran >Church in Penn Township. I appreciate any information >possible. Although I've been at this for several decades, I haven't >dealved much into church records, other than the churches I was >already familiar with, but it appears that I'm going to need that >aspect with my Pennsylvania ancestors! >Thanks, >Jan Rader >Kent, Ohio > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lona I don't have any of these names but that doesn't mean they are not in my line to.. I'll hang on to this . Thanks Barb -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lona Boudreaux" <lona71203@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:00 AM To: <pawestmo@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Bowser information needed > Hi Barb, > > Do the following Bowser's connect to your line? > > I have a Elizabeth Bowser (known as Lulu) Bowser b. Dec. 14, 1870 > Armstrong > Co., and d. 1964 daughter of Mathias Stevens Bowser b. May 14, 1831 > Kittanning, Armstrong Co. d. abt. 1908 and Elizabeth Booher. > > Mathias' parents were Abraham Browser b. 1802 Hopewell, Bedford Co. d. > Apr. > 6, 1853 Franklin, Armstrong Co. and Mary Ann Stevens b. Oct. 5, 1805 > Beaver > Falls d. Aug 8, 1874 Montgomeryville, Armstrong Co. > > Lulu married John Nicholas Rebolt who was my 1st cousin 3x's removed. > > Lona > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barb Lorensen > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:41 AM > To: Cambria County ; Clearfield County ; Indiana County ; Somerset County > ; > Westmoreland County > Subject: [PAWESTMO] Bowser information needed > > I'm looking for more information on George Bowser 1760-1854 married to > Margaret Swartz/Schwartz 1761-1846 with 8 children.. Hope someone can > help > me.. > Thanks Barb > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 2/24/2012 12:46:58 Eastern Standard Time, andyrowe15566@att.net writes: http://baltzermeyer.pa-roots.com/Pages/booklistmain.html That's on line. Fantastic. I rented the film from the LDS. Shirley

Hi, Are there many Lutheran church records still available? I'm specifically looking for records from about 1780 to 1840, and the church I most see in my research is called Denmark Manor Lutheran Church in Penn Township. I appreciate any information possible. Although I've been at this for several decades, I haven't dealved much into church records, other than the churches I was already familiar with, but it appears that I'm going to need that aspect with my Pennsylvania ancestors! Thanks, Jan Rader Kent, Ohio

I hadn't checked my data base for BOWSER, but I found I have a line, too. Quite frankly, I don't know at this moment how they fit my MOHRs of Westmoreland Co., PA Descendants of Isaac Benjamin Bowser 1 Isaac Benjamin Bowser b: March 1828 in Blair, Blair Co., PA d: May 11, 1905 in West Taylor, Cambria Co., PA .. +Rosana b: January 1833 d: in Cambria Co., PA ........ 2 Benjamin Franklin Bowser b: September 1869 in Johnstown, Cambria Co., PA d: May 03, 1925 in West Taylor, Cambria Co., PA ............ +Mary E. b: 1879 in PA d: Aft. 1930 .................. 3 Angeline M. Bowser b: 1925 .................. 3 Harry W. Bowser b: 1922 ........ *2nd Wife of Benjamin Franklin Bowser: ............ +Nancy Ellen Mitchell b: January 1868 in PA m: 1892 in Cambria Co., PA d: Bef. 1920 in Cambria Co., PA .................. 3 Mary E. Bowser b: 1897 .................. 3 Isaac Morrell Bowser b: October 10, 1899 in Johnstown, Cambria Co., PA d: June 02, 1963 in Johnstown, Cambria Co., PA ...................... +Minnie F. Ribblet b: October 1893 in West Taylor Twp., Cambria Co., PA d: June 21, 1971 in Cambria Co., PA ............................ 4 Melvina Bowser b: 1924 d: Bef. 1971 ................................ +Elmer Rhodes ............................ 4 Ruby Bowser b: 1927 in PA ................................ +Ralph Doell ............................ 4 Milford D. Bowser b: June 05, 1928 in PA d: January 21, 1999 in Burnsville, Dakota Co., MN ................................ +Minnie Elener b: March 19, 1912 in England d: December 23, 2003 in Battle Creek, Calhoun Co., MI ............................ 4 Chester Bowser b: Aft. 1930 d: Bef. 1971 ............................ 4 Shirley Bowser b: Aft. 1930 ................................ +Robert King .................. 3 Daniel J. Bowser b: December 28, 1902 in Cambria Co., PA d: June 1986 in Summerville, Jefferson Co., Pennsylvania .................. 3 Emmanuel G. Bowser b: 1904 in West Taylor, Cambria Co., PA d: Aft. 1930 .................. 3 Nora E. Bowser b: 1906 .................. 3 Rosie I. Bowser b: 1908 .................. 3 Benjamin Bowser b: May 18, 1910 in Somerset Co., PA d: August 25, 1964 .................. 3 Thomas Bowser b: 1913 .................. 3 Elma I. Bowser b: 1916 ...................... +Bill Adams .................. 3 Melda R. Bowser b: 1918 ...................... +Harry Adams ........ 2 Adolphus Bowser b: January 1872 *2nd Wife of Isaac Benjamin Bowser: .. +Catherine Ann Stombaugh b: March 03, 1828 d: July 29, 1868 Ah yes, the RIBBLETs. That is the connection. Not a close one. A Moore married a Ribblet in the 1900's. Shirley Maynard

Hi Barb, Do the following Bowser's connect to your line? I have a Elizabeth Bowser (known as Lulu) Bowser b. Dec. 14, 1870 Armstrong Co., and d. 1964 daughter of Mathias Stevens Bowser b. May 14, 1831 Kittanning, Armstrong Co. d. abt. 1908 and Elizabeth Booher. Mathias' parents were Abraham Browser b. 1802 Hopewell, Bedford Co. d. Apr. 6, 1853 Franklin, Armstrong Co. and Mary Ann Stevens b. Oct. 5, 1805 Beaver Falls d. Aug 8, 1874 Montgomeryville, Armstrong Co. Lulu married John Nicholas Rebolt who was my 1st cousin 3x's removed. Lona -----Original Message----- From: Barb Lorensen Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:41 AM To: Cambria County ; Clearfield County ; Indiana County ; Somerset County ; Westmoreland County Subject: [PAWESTMO] Bowser information needed I'm looking for more information on George Bowser 1760-1854 married to Margaret Swartz/Schwartz 1761-1846 with 8 children.. Hope someone can help me.. Thanks Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did a quick look on Google http://discover.hsp.org/Record/hsp.opac.v01-288382 and found this book listed Denmark Manor Lutheran Church (separated from St. John's, Boquet, in 1888), Penn Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, parish records, 1888-1912 / by Paul Miller Ruff looks like you need to look at St John's Barbara At 09:23 AM 2/24/2012, you wrote: >Hi, >Are there many Lutheran church records still available? I'm >specifically looking for records from about 1780 to 1840, and the >church I most see in my research is called Denmark Manor Lutheran >Church in Penn Township. I appreciate any information >possible. Although I've been at this for several decades, I haven't >dealved much into church records, other than the churches I was >already familiar with, but it appears that I'm going to need that >aspect with my Pennsylvania ancestors! >Thanks, >Jan Rader >Kent, Ohio > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This should help. http://baltzermeyer.pa-roots.com/Pages/booklistmain.html                                                            Andy Rowe   --- On Fri, 2/24/12, RADER, JAN <jrrader@kent.edu> wrote: From: RADER, JAN <jrrader@kent.edu> Subject: [PAWESTMO] Lutheran Church Records? To: "PAWESTMO@rootsweb.com" <PAWESTMO@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 9:23 AM Hi, Are there many Lutheran church records still available?  I'm specifically looking for records from about 1780 to 1840, and the church I most see in my research is called Denmark Manor Lutheran Church in Penn Township.  I appreciate any information possible.  Although I've been at this for several decades, I haven't dealved much into church records, other than the churches I was already familiar with, but it appears that I'm going to need that aspect with my Pennsylvania ancestors! Thanks, Jan Rader Kent, Ohio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for more information on George Bowser 1760-1854 married to Margaret Swartz/Schwartz 1761-1846 with 8 children.. Hope someone can help me.. Thanks Barb

Thank you Phil On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Phil Knox <pknox@earthlink.net> wrote: > Here is a map of present day Townships in Westmoreland County. Armed > with separate info on when they were formed should give a fairly > clear idea of where the 1820 townships were. > > http://www.usgwarchives.net/maps/pa/county/westmo/westmo2.jpg > > Phil Knox <pknox@earthlink.net> > My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pknox/ > <<"Don't Tread on Me & God Bless the USA"> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a map of present day Townships in Westmoreland County. Armed with separate info on when they were formed should give a fairly clear idea of where the 1820 townships were. http://www.usgwarchives.net/maps/pa/county/westmo/westmo2.jpg Phil Knox <pknox@earthlink.net> My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~pknox/ <<"Don't Tread on Me & God Bless the USA">

Thanks On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:53 PM, <lapiu.bella1@verizon.net> wrote: > > Sorry. > http://www.pa-roots.com/westmoreland/historyproject/vol1index.html > There are no maps there, but you can determine, by reading, when the > townships were formed and which > ones were extant in 1820. > Bella > > > On 02/21/12, Deloris Girard<delorisegcltd@gmail.com> wrote: > > This email didn't have a link in it? > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM, <[1]lapiu.bella1@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Try this link for townships and their foundings in Westmoreland county. > > Bella > > > > > > On 02/21/12, Deloris Girard<[2]delorisegcltd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Where would I find a map with the townships of Westmoreland in the > 1820's > > Thanks Deloris > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [1][3]PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > References > > > > 1. [4]mailto:PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [5]PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [6]PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. mailto:lapiu.bella1@verizon.net > 2. mailto:delorisegcltd@gmail.com > 3. mailto:PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > 4. mailto:PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > 5. mailto:PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > 6. mailto:PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This email didn't have a link in it? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM, <lapiu.bella1@verizon.net> wrote: > > Try this link for townships and their foundings in Westmoreland county. > Bella > > > On 02/21/12, Deloris Girard<delorisegcltd@gmail.com> wrote: > > Where would I find a map with the townships of Westmoreland in the 1820's > Thanks Deloris > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [1]PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. mailto:PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWESTMO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >