Hello List! I just returned from a roots research vacation in PA, and I wanted to relay a great source that I found at the Westmoreland County offices - if you don't already know. There is an office that does tax mapping, and they have a collection of maps that show all the original warrants and patents for every square inch of Westmoreland. There is a master map that has the county divided into about 300 grids. Then there is a separate 2' x 3' map for each grid that details all the properties within it. Also, they have an index of names that directs you to the specific grids you are searching for. For example, I found three index listngs for Milliron, indicating property on grids 121, 221, and 261. (I also found that a property might extend across two maps, but only be listed on the one where the majority of the property resides.) All of the individual maps are bound in sets and hanging from an open rack so they can be browsed by the public. In addition, the maps include some overlay of current data so that you can determine where a tract lies by contemporary landmarks and references. After you find the maps you're looking for, there is a very friendly man that will assist you and copy them for a charge of $6.00 each. However, I'm not sure if he has the time or inclination to help people over the telephone, but you can try. If you know the map you want, they will copy it and mail it to you, but I didn't ask how much hand-holding they will provide. I discovered this resource the first day I arrived, and I was able to immediately spend the next several days walking my ancestral lands and searching for signs of old homesteads. Imagine my excitement when I was able to locate a stone foundation and spring house of what may have been the original Milliron log cabin established about 1772. Good luck, Tom

List, I am back from my five week trip to Pa. and have picked up something that might be of interest to the people on the list. I will be posting them from time to time. Dee in FL. Monessen Daily Independent -- Monday Evening March 16, 1942 Blackout Timetable Here's how Monessen's first test blackout tonight will work: At 9:10 the alert signal will be received from the control station. This is to start the mobilization of the defense unit. At 9:18 the warning of danger to all posts. Traffic will be stopped. Street lights will go out. Everyone but defense officers get off streets At 9:25 whistles will blow the signal warning. The blackout is on. At 9:30 the blackout must be complete, with no sign of light. At 9:45 o'clock the all clear signal will be sounded. Special precautions: Don't use telephones between 9:15 and 10:30 p.m. Civilian Defense service will be making heavy use of the phone facilities, and they must also be available for other possible emergency calls during this time. Control your dog. I am happy to say that the next day's paper said the black out was a complete success.

Does anyone know what hospitals would have been around in 1918? My family was from Wyano, near Yukon. Also, any information about operations in those days would help. What kind where performed in a doctor's office? Thanks, Georgia PS: Terry R. your mail address was rejected again.

Hi, This site will also allow you to find the day of the week in question. For example, if you know the date of the obit & it reads "died last Thursday", you can check that year, see what day the paper was printed & find when last Thursday was... _http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/index.html?year=1776&country=1 Sincerely, Sally Huntley _ (http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/index.html?year=1776&country=1)

Here are some- http://www.ovs-genealogy.com/tools/free_birthdate_calculator_calculates_birth_day.shtml http://www.tombstonephotos.com/birthdatecalculator.asp Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Reel" <greel@elsouth.com> To: <PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO-L] Determining birth date from tombstone information. > This may seem a silly question, but I'll ask anyway. I have the date of > death (given on tombstone) along with age in years, > > months and days of an ancestor. Is there a site over the net I can go to > that can work backwards to decypher the exact > > date of birth for my ancestor if I provide the information provided on the > tombstone? Some program that is set-up to factor > > in the years involved that were leap years. > > > Gerald > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > >

This may seem a silly question, but I'll ask anyway. I have the date of death (given on tombstone) along with age in years, months and days of an ancestor. Is there a site over the net I can go to that can work backwards to decypher the exact date of birth for my ancestor if I provide the information provided on the tombstone? Some program that is set-up to factor in the years involved that were leap years. Gerald

Taken from the 19 July 1905 edition of the Latrobe Bulletin newspaper: "Master Lloyd Lohr, of Wilkinsburg, is the guest of Derry friends. "Dr. W. B. Cosgrove was a business visitor to Latrobe yesterday."

The following tidbit was taken from the 19 July 1905 LaTrobe Bulletin, page 6: "Reverend H. G. Moody and wife paid their last visit to Derry yesterday before sailing to the other continent. A few Masons took advantage of their short call and presented Rev. Moody with a handsome large traveling bag. The bag had been purchased with money contributed by the members of the Derry Lodge."

Obit for TAYLOR MCCLURE taken from the 19 July 1905 edition of the LaTrobe Bulletin newspaper (Note: Taylor McClure died on 17 July 1905 and Braddock refers to Braddock, PA, in Allegheny Co.): The remains of TAYLOR MCCLURE were brought here yesterday afternoon, on Blairsville Express, from Braddock, and interred in Cole's cemetery. Mr.MCCLURE was 58 years of age, and a former resident of New Derry. Of late years he had been living at Braddock, and died rather suddenly on Monday morning of paralysis. He was a veteran of the Civil war and a member of the Harper Post of the G. A. R., also a member of the Fourth Streeet M.E. church, at Braddock.

From Ancestry.com's Historic Newspaper collection; the Indiana Gazette, 6/8/1892: Elliott Robinson, one of the oldest and most respected citizens of West Wheatfield township, this county, died at his home, after a protracted illness, on Wednesday last. Mr. Robinson's father was born in England and was a young man when the American Revolution took place. Being an English subject, he was drafted into the service and sent to this country to fight the Americans. He was all through the war and wounded at the battle of Yorktown. He carried a Bible in his breast pocket and a Yankee bullet struck the book and cut quite a hole in it. This book is now in the possession of Mrs. Lynn, a sister of Mr. Elliott Robinson. The elder Robinson was present at the surrender of Cornwallis, and after peace was declared returned to England, where he married and at the age of 25 years emigrated to the United States. He was not long in discovering that he was on the wrong side of the contest, and although entitled to a pension from the English government, he refused to accept it and became one of the most loyal Americans. He first located in what is now Blair County, but soon he and his wife moved to what is now Westmoreland county and at a location somewhat four miles south of where the town of Bolivar now stands. Here was born in 1808, Elliott Robinson, the subject of this sketch. At that time Chambersburg was the nearest town of any note and from there the Robinsons got their supplies, bringing them across the mountains on pack-horses. This part of the state was then infested with numerous tribes of Indians, but they were always treated kindly by Mr. Robinson and his family and no depredations were committed no the new settlers. Land at that early date was cheap and Mr. Robinson purchased a large tract, paying $4 per acre. After his father's death Elliott Robinson purchased the interest of his brothers in his father's estate and erected the first saw and grist mill in that neighborhood. The first house erected in Blairsville was constructed of lumber sawed and logged down the Conemaugh from the neighborhood of Bolivar by Mr. Robinson. After some years he sold out his mills and and during the construction of the Pennsylvania Railroad, he became prominent contractor on that line. He was the pioneer of the fire-brick industry in this part of the state and his first venture was the erection of works at Bolivar in 1858, now operated by Reece, Hammond & Co. After he sold his plant he erected the works now operated by E.J. MIldren, at Blacklick on the Indiana branch. When he disposed of this plant, he put up another at Bolivar. Disposing of this he erected another on the Indiana side of the river and turned them over to his two sons, Thomas J. and William I. Robinson, who are not successful at operating them. His father's family consisted of twelve children, 3 girls and 9 boys, all dead except a sister, Mrs. Lynn of Fairfield township, Westmoreland county. He was a far-seeing active businessman, and when the Bolivar branch of the Pennsylvania branch was completed. he laid out the town of Garfield, on the river apposite Bolivar and sold a great many lots and the town is now one of the brightest along the river. He was an enthusiastic member of the M.E. Church and known far and wide as an honest, upright, christian man. He was one of the strong supporters of the Government during the late war and his purse was always open to the wants of the families of those who went into service, and many of those made widows or orphans by the stern fate of war can bear testimony to his kindness in their time of need. His sympathy for the distressed did not end in kind words, but his expressions of sorrow were accompanied, where needed, by substantial aid. Though well up in years a the time of the war, he enlisted with the three months' men and assisted in the capture of the rebel raider, Gen. Morgan. He was a man of more than ordinary intelligence and his advice and council was sought by his neighbors on all important subjects. He leaves a widow and six children, three girls and three boys, the latter all grown up and well to do, having inherited the energy and thrift of the two parents. WILL OF THE LATER ELLIOTT ROBINSON The will of Mr. Robinson was probated by Register McGregor on Saturday, 13th inst. He bequeaths to his wife the furniture in her room, "except the old clock," and also such amounts of his real and personal property as she would be entitled to under the intestate laws of the State. His two daughters, Annie Elizabeth and Carrie are given the remainder of the household goods, and for services rendered $500 each, and in addition the lump sum of $1000 apiece. The sum of $1000 is also devised to his son John W. Robinson. The land on which the brickyard is building the testator valued at $2,000 and this is devised jointly to his sons William I. and Thomas J. To his daughter, Mrs. Mary J. Rugh, id devised the sum of $400 and a judgment note held against her husband by the testator is released. To his granddaughters, Margaret Lillian Hadley, Martha Luella Brown and Elizabeth Catherine Winkle is devised $100 each, and a like sum is given to testator's grandson, Wm. Winkle. The ! residue of the estate, real and personal, is devised to his three sons and two daughters named above. John W. and Wm. I Robinson are appointed executors. The will is dated June 22, 1889, and was witnessed by J.N. Banks, Esq., and G.W. McCune. On the 24th of June, 1890, a codicil was added to the will by which Mary J. Rugh is made an equal sharer in the residue of the estate along with the brothers and sisters named.

Does anyone have access to the book "German, Swiss, Dutch and French and other Immigrants in PA in 1727-1776" or know how I can access it? I am searching for the information listed on two Daniel Beaner's, one on page 201 and one on page 222. Thank you! Colleen

Just weighing in to remind all of you that Westmoreland County's marriages (back to when civil marriage records were first kept, in the 1880s) are now available for on-line search. The search page will enable you to see IF the couple took out a marriage license in Westmoreland County, and will give you the correct record numbers so that the actual record may be obtained. Just a cautionary note: it's possible to obtain a marriage license in one county but actually get married in another, as PA marriage licenses are valid anywhere in Pennsylvania. It's a possible point of confusion in adjacent counties. Try the web page below: http://westmorelandweb400.us:8088/EGSPublicAccess.htm Happy hunting! Donna Edwards-Jordan

Here's my 2 cents worth. My daughter's great grand parents lived in Westmoreland County but went up to Indiana County to get married so don't rule that place out at all. Ellen (ETHS-VP) Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Probably if it took place in Blairsville, it would be at the Indiana County Courthouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Warren" <rewarren@ameritech.net> To: <PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO-L] Marriage in Blairsville? > If the marriage took place in Blairsville (or somewhere nearby, like > Latrobe or Derry) then the record would be in the Westmoreland Co. > Courthouse in Greensburg. If the marriage took place in Allegheny Co., as > might be the case since a lot of weddings take place in the bride's home > town, then the record would be in Pittsburgh. I'd look in Westmoreland > first, then Allegheny Co. > > Bob Warren > > Richard <fburda@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > My Aunt Margaret Zerla married Andrew Pezzoni probably late 1916 or in > 1917. Margaret was born in Allegheny county, somewhere souteast of > Sturgeon as that is where her brothers were born, in February 22, 1892 or > 1893. She died in 1984. Andrew Pezzoni was born in Ossimo, Italy in > October 1888. Andrew died in 1967. > > Margaret lived in Sturgeon after 1900. I am not sure where they were > married, but they lived and raised their family in Blairsville. > > Would their marriage record be listed in Westmoreland county? > > Richard in California > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > >

I have lots of Baer/Bair/Bahr/Bar...'s in my family originating in Westmoreland County. I have checked what records I have at home, and though I do not have Rev. Paul Miller Ruff's book "St. John's Lutheran Church: Mt. Pleasant Twp., Westmoreland Co. 1821-1856" or "St. John's Reformed Church: Mt. Pleasant Twp., Westmoreland Co., 1821-1960" which would cover the time you are interested in, it is available from http://www.mechlingbooks.com and only costs $13.50 each. In the volumes previous to those, Adam and Catherine Baer (spell it anyway you want), have several other children. HOWEVER, and this is a BIG however, Adam's father was probably named Adam, AND he had at least one cousin named Adam, and Catherine showes up as wife's names for one or both of them. The Baer's are difficult to sort out in the county, as so many of the people were running around with the same name. I have been using the baptisim sponsors names to HELP sort things out, and that is not ALWAYS fool proof. If you are really going to try and sort these, you need to get the set of Ruff's books. My Baers came to Westmoreland Co. between 1813 and 1835 from Lancaster County, however there were Baers in Westmoreland County as early as 1785 or before. Good luck, Laurie > From: "Janet Warter" <jkwarter@socal.rr.com> > To: PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO-L] BRINKER-BAER info > > Sandy -- If you go to > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com > and search for Thomas Henry Brinker (b. 1818), you > will find several entries. My data is under jkw2. > Several others there have copied my data, including > notes, but at least they say it is from my database. > Anyway, you will find 8 children for Thomas & wife > Margaret Baer, who lived in Pleasant Unity. He was > an MD. There are ancestors for Thomas Henry Brinker > back many generations. I have not researched the > Baer family, however. Let me know if you need any > more help with this. > Janet Warter. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RozieP@aol.com > To: PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:33 AM > Subject: [PAWESTMO-L] BRINKER-BAER info > > > Would anyone have anything on Margaret > BAER (d. of Adam & Catherine > BAER) born May, 1825 Mt. Pleasant Township, > Westmoreland Co., PA and Thomas > Henry BRINKER (parents unknown) born May 1818, > Unity Township, Westmoreland Co., > PA? They married in 1846 and she died April, > 1908. They had 7 children - > Louisa, Ursinus, Emma, Sarah, Mary, Ezra and Ira. > > I am trying to figure out if her father is > one of the Adam BAER's in > my family. TIA > > Sandy P - near wet St. Louieee > BAER, CUMINS, HAWBAKER, GOETZ, and more. > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > ______________________________> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:08:20 -0400 > From: "Michelle Ortz" <BEARDEN5@peoplepc.com> > To: PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Dwyer family members > > Hello all. I am looking for information about a > Frances Dwyer who lived in Luxor, PA and was a > miner. His wife was Kathy Sachs. I do not know > when or where he was born , when married or when > died & place of burial. Guess I don't know much. > Would appreciate any help > > thanks, > Michelle > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

If the marriage took place in Blairsville (or somewhere nearby, like Latrobe or Derry) then the record would be in the Westmoreland Co. Courthouse in Greensburg. If the marriage took place in Allegheny Co., as might be the case since a lot of weddings take place in the bride's home town, then the record would be in Pittsburgh. I'd look in Westmoreland first, then Allegheny Co. Bob Warren Richard <fburda@worldnet.att.net> wrote: My Aunt Margaret Zerla married Andrew Pezzoni probably late 1916 or in 1917. Margaret was born in Allegheny county, somewhere souteast of Sturgeon as that is where her brothers were born, in February 22, 1892 or 1893. She died in 1984. Andrew Pezzoni was born in Ossimo, Italy in October 1888. Andrew died in 1967. Margaret lived in Sturgeon after 1900. I am not sure where they were married, but they lived and raised their family in Blairsville. Would their marriage record be listed in Westmoreland county? Richard in California ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ====

Also according to the Westmoreland e services Kathyrn O. Dwyer married Henry E. Jones 7/30/1913. They had quite a family. Ancestry is acting up and I can't access the original image, but they lived in Youngwood. Henry E. Jones and wife Catherine had the following children-May, Margaretta, Vesta, Oyslne, Verna and Vera. Oyslne is a son-I'd like to see the original image on that name because some of the transcribers get creative sometimes and that may or may not be the correct name. Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Ortz" <BEARDEN5@peoplepc.com> To: <PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO-L] Dwyer family members > Hello all. I am looking for information about a Frances Dwyer who lived > in Luxor, PA and was a miner. His wife was Kathy Sachs. I do not know > when or where he was born , when married or when died & place of burial. > Guess I don't know much. Would appreciate any help > > thanks, > Michelle > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > >

OK I found Frances (Francis?) Dwyer in Hempfield Twp. in the 1900 census., ED 70, p. 23 Franc? Dwyer, born Feb. 1866, age 34, married 13 years, born PA, parents born Ireland, driver in coal mines Sarah J., wife, born July 1866,age 33, married 13 years, had 7 children, 2 living, born PA, parents born PA Edward, son, born Oct. 1890, age 9, born PA Catherine O., daughter, born Oct. 1892, age 7, born PA 1910 PA miracode Westmoreland County ED 0139, visit 0305 Frank E. Dwyer, age 44 wife Sarah Son Edward Daughter Katherine Dawne

A friend of mine in Minnesota sent this to me. As part of the Making of America Project, The University of Michigan has the following historu of PA on-line at: http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?sid=6c4bd7eb1cde2a84027f993daa57b875&idno=afj8416.0001.001&xc=1&c=moa&cc=moa&g=moagrp&q1=Militia+of+1862&seq=5&size=s&view=image An Illustrated History of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Civil, Poliical, and Military, from its Earliest Settlement to the Present Time, Including Historical Descriptions of Each County in the State, Their Towns, and Industrial Resources by William H. Egle, M.D. Member of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania Sold only by subscription Harrisburg: De Witt C. Goodrich & Co., 1876 Use the pull down menu to maneuver through the document. Dawne

According to the following site it is Edward S. Dwyer who was married to Catherine Sachs. They lived in Hannahstown ca. 1916 which is near Luxor. They may also have lived in Luxor. http://patheoldminer.rootsweb.com/hannastown1.html According to the Westmoreland e services, record # 30753, Edward Dwyer married Cathryn Sacho on 6/01/1911. This can be seen at http://www.co.westmoreland.pa.us/westmoreland/cwp/view.asp?a=1487&q=611614&westmorelandNav=%7C At the Adams Memorial Library "Dead A Base" Edward S. Dwyer died 5/14/1947. His obituary would be on microfilm at the library.This can be seen at http://www.adamslib.org/catalogs/deadabase/index.asp?LN=dwyer&FN=&year=all&PerPage=15&Page=1 In the World War I draft cards Edward Samuel Dwyer lived in Luxor. He was 26 years old, born Oct. 9, 1890, natural born in Saltsburg PA. He was a miner for the Jamison Coal & Coke Co. in Luxor. He had a wife and 4 children. He was tall and slender, had gray eyes and brown hair. He signed his card Ed S. Dwyer. The card is dated June 5, 1917. Hope this helps! Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Ortz" <BEARDEN5@peoplepc.com> To: <PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO-L] Dwyer family members > Hello all. I am looking for information about a Frances Dwyer who lived > in Luxor, PA and was a miner. His wife was Kathy Sachs. I do not know > when or where he was born , when married or when died & place of burial. > Guess I don't know much. Would appreciate any help > > thanks, > Michelle > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > >