I went on a field trip to the Carnegie Library in Oakland this week and saw that they had transcripts of the above cemeteries in their collection in the Pennsylvania room. Of course I didn't have anyone's names with me to look up, but thought I'd let those out there know that a transcript is available there. Dawne

Hello, I was wondering if there is a transcription available either online or in a book of the Hillside Cemetery in Derry. I believe some of my Gr. Gr. Grandparents are buried there. His name is William Fleming, d. Oct 21, 1904 and her name is Anna Reitz. If anyone has knowledge of this cemetery, it's condition, or who to write to for information etc... I would love to hear from you. Thanks for your time, Shelly M. Niehart, OH --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Darn! I don't know what's going on with my computer but my mail on here is coming out all spaced wrong. So sorry about that. I've got to check this out. It doesn't look at all like the way I wrote it. Ellen Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Dear Genealogy Friends, It is really something when we find things in our home that we have forgotten about over the years. Today, I found the following brochure among my genealogical collection in the office. I am going to incorporate the data within other Westmoreland County material of the same kind on other cemeteries, in this county, either on my website or in a book form. I will also donate the original brochure & copies of my compiled data, when completed, to the Westmoreland County Historical Society, the Hempfield / Greensburg Library & the Nowin Public Library near Irwin, Pa as soon as I have the rest compiled. In the meantime I thought I would share this particular data with you below, as I know some of these cemeteries are very old & not as well cared for as they used to be. Some of the tombstones may be gone or unreadable. We are soon going to be remembering all our deceased service men & women & those who are serving our country in and out of action today on Memorial Day. Let this list be a reminder that we continually owe our freedom and lives to those we may never have known or will ever know at all. Memorial Day is not a day of celebration. It is A Day Of Remembrance. My Very Best Regards, Ellen J. Ballas A humbly but proud member of the GAR, NSDAR & NSDAC & Wife of a former Naval Service Man Mother of a Retired Marine Officer & Grandmother of a young Army Serviceman & Descendant of several military service men from The Colonial Wars, The French & Indian War, Revolutionary War, War of 1812 and Civil War If you are too, you may wish to honor them in some way if you haven't already. My membership in these organizations and participating In their worthy projects is my way of doing so. You might send a card of appreciation to those you know servicing our country today. NEW ALEXANDRIA, PA MILITARY BURIALS The New Alexandria National Bank in New Alexandria, PA sponsored a brochure dated May 30, 1938 The brochure stated as follows HONOR OUR DEAD A list of dead comrades And their place of burial At new Alexandria, Pa. And vicinity whose Memory we honor Today May 30, 1939 Compiled by J. G. Cook and revised From a survey made by Warren Fennell New Alexandria Union Cemetery Civil War Austin, William V. Beattie, Robert R. Bell, Alexander C. Bridenthall, Nick Brown, 1st Lieut. David O. Brown, John O. Brown, Robert Erskine Cook, Capt. David M. Cook, 1st Lieut. David R. Cook, 1st Lieut. Jas. S. Cook, John Cook, Samuel S. Craig, John A. Craig, Orlando T. Dornon, Samuel R. Fillmore, Corp. Wm. Fishel, Henry E. Gallagher, Col. Thos F. Huffman, Sergt. Reuben J. Johnston, James R. Knox, William Henry Latimer, Jas. G. Laughlin, Jos. W. Lewis, Corp. Wilson, Sr. Lindsay, George T. Love, Robert Machesney, James H. Machesney, David C. Mark, John C. Marshall, John Martin, John Mulherron, Thomas Murphy, W. Spear McBride, Sergt. James McKelvey, John T. O'Neal, John Painter, George W. Paisley, Robert Paisley, William H. Patchel, John Patterson, Robert T. Paschall, William W. Peterson, Henry Poorman, Franklin A. Reed, Corp. Jeremiah T. Ross, Daniel B. Rugh, 1st Lieut. Asst. Surgeon, Dr. J. W. Seanor, Capt. William H. Sheffer, Sergt. Jacob A. Snell, George Snodgrass, Thomas H. Spoeelman, Fred H. Spoonhoward, James Sproull, Corp. Rev. Thos. A. Stewart, Corp. George Swend, Corp. Samuel D. Taylor, Sergt. Samuel G. Thompson, John P. Tuttle, Thomas A. Waggle, Musician Alex T. Spanish-American War Huffman, William F. Williams, George W. Warnick, John G. World War Bruner, Eugene Dornon, Corp. Robert C. Duffield, Lawrence Greaves, Chalfant Hoffman, Lynn E. Latimer, Greyson R. Laughlin, Sherman Roble, Rudolph Rush, Archie E. Steele, William Edward Presbyterian Cemetery Revolutionary War Craig, Capt. John Jr. Edgar, Lt. John Hunter, Robert 1812 War Gosnell, Joshua Gosnell, William Civil War Cook, Capt. Joseph Irwin, Henry Neely, Henry Reed, 1st. Sergt. Samuel P. Torrance, Chap. Rev. Adam Reformed Presbyterian Cemetery Civil War DuShane, 1st Sergt. Isaac N. Elder, Rev. T. M. Jack, Samuel Monroe, James R. Workman, William World War Fetters, Jas. Monroe United Presbyterian Cemetery Revolutionary War Anderson, Joshua Brown, David Cooper, Robert Cuthrie, Robert Holstein, Matias McKissick, Henry McKissick, James Patterson, Samuel Rainey, John Rainey, William 1812 War Dixon, Samuel Taylor, John P. Civil War Bowser, S. F. Cox, James Gordon, Albert Herron, Frank Lewis, John McCurdy, Archibald Taylor, Frederick Taylor, Sergt. Geo. W. Williams, Steele Congruity Cemetery Revolutionary War Baird, William Borland, Lieut. Samuel Bovard, John Bullman, Joseph Craig, General Alexander Davis, Col. John Dickey, David Hart, John Jack, Capt. Matthew Jobe, John J. Jones, James Kirkpatrick, Benjamin Kirkpatrick, John Laughlin, Bobert Sr. Lockey, Capt. Jeremiah McCutcheon, John McQuade, Patrick, Sr. Mehaffey, Samuel Moore, John (Judge) Morrison, Daniel Oury, Eve (Pensioned Heroine) Porter, Rev. Samuel Ralston, Maj. Andrew Reed, General William Shaw, David Shaw, W. C. Shields, Col. John Stewart, George Stewart, William Taylor, Simon Woods, John 1812 War Moore, Col. William Murphy, Capt. M. Reed, Capt. Samuel Robinson, James Mexican War McGinley, Robert C. Civil War Cunningham, Joseph Davis, William Fry, William G. Hendrie, George Henry, Paul Henry, Thomas M. Hickenlooper, Renwick Jobe, Benjamin F. Jobe, Johnson R. Kuhns, Abraham McCutcheon, Johnson McCutcheon, William McCutcheon, Capt. Samuel Meanor, John Mewherter, Benjamin Sloan, William C. World War Lingal, William E. Fenneltown Cemetery Civil War Bash, Sergt. John L. Bash, corp. Lebbeus P. Bush, William H. Dunn, George B. Dunn, James Eck, John A. Loughner, Eliphaz Silvis, James Steele, Samuel Stoner, Abraham E. World War Helman, Lawrence McBrides Cemetery Revolutionary War McBride, James Jr. McBride, James Sr. Loyalhanna Baptist Cemetery Revolutionary War Kerr, William, Sr. McCurdy, Alexander Waddle, William 1812 War Horrell, Col. John Civil War Fillmore, Jeremiah Louther, Archibald J. McCready, Arthur Mears, George K. Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Searching for information of surnames MCCLAINE AND CAMPBELL.

Hi, I should have added at the end that some of the spelling is as on what I saw on original info but I do have a couple obvious spelling errors in my own writing like the word people. I also repeated the earliest of the patent settlers at the end. I do hope this is of some use to you. Ellen Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Hello to those who might be interested in the following data. I thought I'd like to write a little today about early Westmoreland County, one of the townships & the earliest residents. This will be a bit on Hempfield Township and something about the earliest patents. Over the years I've heard time & time again how hard it is for new people to work in the state of PA & it's counties & county townships. My thoughts are that Westmoreland County, now 233 years young is one of the most interesting examples of formation, growth and change. We must remember that in to the 1760's this area was inhabited by Indians and trappers. Only a few settlers had moved into the area from the East. Travel was first made along Braddocks Road in the 1750's and by Forbes Road of 1758. The Bouquet Road in 1764 aided further in helping open this area for settlement. It is because of the time it would take to conduct any official business in Bedford County, which was the closest that the settlers petitioned for a new county to be formed. This was done on February 26, 1773. Once done the creation of 13 original townships began on April 6, 1773. They are: Fairfield, Donegal, Hunting(t)on, Mount Pleasant, Hempfield, Pitt, Tyrone, Springhill, Manallin, Rostraver, and Armstrong. Hempfield is described as beginning at the Mouth of Crabtree Run and running down the Loyal Hannan to the Junction of Connemagh then down the Kiskimenitas to the Mouth thesnce with a straight line to the head of Brush Run then down Brush Run to Brush Creek then with a straight line to the mouth of the Youghiogeny then up Youghiogeny to the Mouth of Jacobs Creek then up Jacobs Creek to the line of Mount Pleasant. Well now! That's not the Hempfield Township we are familiar with today. It's certainly much smaller in proportion. To begin with, I would say that approximately 2/3's of it became Salem Township in 1785. This means that if you are looking for someone in Hempfield township prior to 1785, you might have to refer to the patent map layout in the courthouse mapping department for Salem township to make certain which township their land was located. What I call the "southern tail" is what is now Hempfield township. Some of what I have written was what I learned from the former director of the Tax Claim Bureau, who took a more than casual interest in his work over many years, Gerald Wendling. Additional data on the county is recorded in more than one history of the county. On Pg. 528/529 of one history by Alberts is states" By act of 14 March, 1845, that portion of the township of Hempfield which lies suth of the Big Sewickley Creek was attached to and directed to thereafter constitute a part of the township of East Huntingdon, and that the said creek should thereafter be the division line between the said two townships. In 1872 a part of the division line was changed between Penn and Hempfield townships for the conveniance of the peole in school and other purposes. The point commenced on the farm of George Detar, and ran to that of J. H. Orr, in Hempfield township. It should be noted that a person obtaining a warrant may not be the same party as the one taking up the patent. I won't get in to the fine points of that subject at this time. What is of interest now is the earliest of the settlers on the land of today's Hempfield township lines that comprise 299 original patents. The earliest patents in just the 1770's were for as follows for just 8 families of settlers as stated on the map. Samuel Miller - 1770 David Marchant - 1771 Jacob Welcker - 1773 Dewalt Mechlin - 1774 John Boyd, William Gray etal, William Jenkins, Patience Morgan etal (2 parcels), - 1775 Miller & Marchant would have been residents prior to their land being in Westmoreland County & Weicker during the actual formation. In order to look at the list of those who warranted the properties one would have to examine the actual maps that show the names & dates of the warrant, survey and patent. Keep in mind that we are speaking of the Hempfield township of today. This means that to see the settlers who warranted or patented land in Hempfield township prior to 1785 in what became Salem township at that date. In order to do this one must also look at the changes of boundaries of that township over the years too. It is suggested that a person examine the surrounding townships & check in to when they were formed & from what township, including the date of the changes. These things take time to examine. Samuel Miller - 1770 David Marchant - 1771 Jacob Welcker - 1773 Dewalt Mechlin - 1774 John Boyd, William Gray etal, William Jenkins, Patience Morgan etal (2 parcels), - 1775 Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

There are volumes available to see where paperwork involving probated estates (if it applies) has been recorded. Here is just some of the listing of what is available for viewing in the recorded volumes in Greensburg.Registrar of Wills Office besides births, deaths & marriages. The Estates go from late 1700's to the present time. I do hope this helps. Ellen Accounts Docket Administration Docket Collateral Inheritance Docket Direct Inheritance Tax Docket Inventory & Appraisement Docket Orphans' Court Docket Partition Docket PA Inheritance Tax Docket Transfer Inheritance Tax Docket Widow's Appriasment Docket Will Book Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Hi, Yes they have the original wills, or course, but they do not like to get the actual early wills out for you to handle. This is why they have the Will Book Copies. I have, under certain circumstances, asked to see an original very early will at times but stated a good reason to see it. It was even this way back in the early 1970's. You also have to make a special request now in the register of wills office to go over to records management to look at the original settlement of estate papers in Greensburg. I did this just 2 weeks ago. They called from that office to make the arrangements. I hope this makes things a little clearer. Ellen Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Hi Ronald, All the courthouses I have gone to have the wills that are filed for probate by the executor of the will. It becomes a part of the settlement of the estate process. The actual wills are filed, usually in packets. They are also recorded in will books for easy viewing. Ellen Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Hi, I do know that Greensburg does have, at least some original wills. The ones I looked at were in pretty good condition. They were very interesting to see. Sorry I am not Ellen, but thought I would tell you what I had found in Greensburg, Pa Nancy

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:49:56 -0400 "Ellen" <ellen@b-n-s.com> writes: [...] > if a courthouse is willing to send you a copy of the will & even > when you [go] there for it, you are not going to get a copy of > the original will. You are going to get a copy that has been > recorded in a numbered will book. [...] > You need to insist on seeing the original copy if you suspect > an error has occurred, otherwise all may just be fine with > the recorded copy for the most part. I'd always assumed that the original was destroyed/ returned to the family once it was recorded... Ron Bauerle http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bauerle/

Hey gang, Just a short reminder to the vets and newbies at this site of my free research for the asking here at Andersonville. Please email me directly at Frye@pstel.net with request so we dont tie up the county site. Kevin Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html or go to google.com and search " Andersonville Kevin Frye " My site will come up.

Good advice Ellen, thanks. Pat Cummins

Ellen, I believe the answer from Turek was meant for Bobbi, who wanted to know which Library the newspapers where at. Laney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen" <ellen@b-n-s.com> To: <PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: RE: [PAWESTMO-L] Westmoreland Examineer Newspapers Query > `Hi, > That was not my question at all. It was specifically on that particular > newspaper. I've been working with these newspapers from that library & > the > published abstracts of them by Fischer for 35 years. > > This was my question. I am specifically interested in the above paper & > the library only has a few years of it from the 1840's. I'm interested in > locating copies of it from the 1830's as I know it was in existence about > 1838 & I wondered if anyone on the list had worked with them from another > location before I start writing letters about it. When I get the answer > from my inquiry I'll post it on here for others. Regards, Ellen (ETHS) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Turekd08@aol.com [mailto:Turekd08@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:29 PM > To: PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO-L] Westmoreland Examineer Newspapers Query > > Newspapers on Microfiln at the Greensburg Hempfield Liberary in > Greensburg,Pa. > > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== > > >

`Hi, That was not my question at all. It was specifically on that particular newspaper. I've been working with these newspapers from that library & the published abstracts of them by Fischer for 35 years. This was my question. I am specifically interested in the above paper & the library only has a few years of it from the 1840's. I'm interested in locating copies of it from the 1830's as I know it was in existence about 1838 & I wondered if anyone on the list had worked with them from another location before I start writing letters about it. When I get the answer from my inquiry I'll post it on here for others. Regards, Ellen (ETHS) -----Original Message----- From: Turekd08@aol.com [mailto:Turekd08@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:29 PM To: PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO-L] Westmoreland Examineer Newspapers Query Newspapers on Microfiln at the Greensburg Hempfield Liberary in Greensburg,Pa. ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ====

Newspapers on Microfiln at the Greensburg Hempfield Liberary in Greensburg,Pa.

This is mostly for those new at searching for their ancestors. New researchers mostly think in terms of just obtaining a will. Sometimes that is fine & one gets the basic information needed, but this is not always the case. First of all, if a courthouse is willing to send you a copy of the will & even when you got there for it, you are not going to get a copy of the original will. You are going to get a copy that has been recorded in a numbered will book. This can make quite a difference mostly for 2 reasons. !. It will not show the original signatures of the party who died, nor anyone else, like the witnesses to the event. Sometimes this can be needed to prove it's the same person you are looking for in order to establish the comparison you might have from another document they signed. 2. There is always the possibility that the recorder missed a person mentioned in the will or states the wrong name, and/or even a date can be incorrect. I can site my own experiences over the years with this happening more than once. You need to insist on seeing the original copy if you suspect an error has occurred, otherwise all may just be fine with the recorded copy for the most part. I have also seen a person who's name can be spelled more than one way be recorded twice. It is because of this that you will see 2 wills in different sections of the book but for the same party. It doesn't happen too often, but it can. I'd rather that than not being recorded at all. The thing is that just because there is no will does not mean there is no estate to be settled in the Orphans Court. If the party owned property or had children who had guardians named for them you will find this recorded in the index listings. So many times this is over-looked & in published listings for early wills. It is true that many people without property of any kind did not have a will or anything to be settled. This is unfortunate but does happen. There should be the paperwork to look at involving any estate. However, some have been lost, stolen or misplaced over the years. This is more the case the earlier the time period involved. Many of the early estate papers are fragile & crumbling. Some courthouses have been microfilming all those earlier papers but not all courthouses have accomplished this to date. Actually, they do not like you to have to look at these papers but if something is really important you may find it is the only way to possibly & I do mean possibly glean further family data. I'll take this up further at a later time. One other thing to be taken up at this time is the fact that so many inquiries come in about people who have lived in the area & then moved on with their families to another county or state. This makes it harder to find courthouse data on them. Unless they are mentioned in a will or settlement as an heir they are not going to appear in the county were they left in that department. Then you will have to rely on material like a deed for sale of property they owned & sold or were involved with another member of the family in the disposition of property. There are also tax records that may help if you know what township they came from & if the years are available in the retentions center. This is just partial information above but I feel it is enough for a new person to absorb at this time. It is always best if you can visit the courthouse & take whatever time you need to do a search, but if you can't it may become necessary to enlist the aid of someone with the experience to do so for you. One just can't rely on doing genealogy by using the internet. It is a great tool but not the answer to everything. I do hope this helps some of the new people on this list. It's just a fraction of what one needs to know if they are seriously interested in family research in detail & with back-up proofs to do with it. It is unfortunate that so many can't go to a court house to do their own work because of where they live but that's the case. It can take many long hard working hours to truly do your line in a proper manner. Good luck to all who are planning research trips this spring & summer. Ellen (ETHS-VP) Visit my web site at: http://www.familytreetracer.com <http://www.familytreetracer.com/>

Dee, Are you referring to the Carnegie Library in Pittsburgh or a library in Westmoreland County? Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: <Turekd08@aol.com> To: <PAWESTMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO-L] Westmoreland Examineer Newspapers Query > Ellen, > > These are the newspapers on microfilm in the library. Weather you can > order > them I don't know. Hope this helps > Dee in Fl > > 1. Greensburg Tribune Review (Daily) Jan 1, 1991 to date (1 Jan 1993 not > published) > > 2 Greensburg Morning Review (Daily) Sept 24, 1940 through 14 Dec 1945 > > 3. Greensburg Daily Tribune (Daily) 8 Feb 1889 through 18 Oct 1840 > > The following dates are missing > 1 July 1892 to 3 Jan 1893 > 29 June 1894 to 31 Dec 1894 > 19 Dec 1895 to 31 Dec 1895 > 1 July 1986 to 31 Dec 1896 > 16 Oct 1925 to 1 Feb 1926 > Sept 1933 to Oct 1933 > > 4 Farmer's Register (Greensburg,Pa) (Weekly) 21 June 1799 through 24 Aug > 1802 > 18 Aug 1840 through 28 Oct 1840 > > 5. Greensburg Daily Record (Daily) 3 April 1886 through 11 Jan 1890 > > 6 Westmoreland Intelligence (weekly) April 1841 to Dec 1847 > > 7. Pennsylvania Argus (Weekly) 7 Dec 1832 through May 1834 > 9 Jan 1867 through 21 Dec 1871 > 8 Dec 1886 through 4 Dec 1899 > 28 Dec 1871 through 18 Dec 1872 > 20 Nov 1907 through 6 Nov 1912 > > 8. Tribune Herald (weekly) 29 July 1870 through 24 Nov 1908 > > 9. Greensburg Press Daily (Daily) 13 June 1882 through 28 Feb 1888 > 6 Mar 1888 through 18 Mar 1898 (missing 15 Apr 1891 to 13 > Sept > 1897) > 22 Mar 1898 through 30 June 1899 > > 10. Greensburg Evening Press (Daily) Oct 1881 through 31 Mar 1891 > > > ==== PAWESTMO Mailing List ==== >

Ellen, These are the newspapers on microfilm in the library. Weather you can order them I don't know. Hope this helps Dee in Fl 1. Greensburg Tribune Review (Daily) Jan 1, 1991 to date (1 Jan 1993 not published) 2 Greensburg Morning Review (Daily) Sept 24, 1940 through 14 Dec 1945 3. Greensburg Daily Tribune (Daily) 8 Feb 1889 through 18 Oct 1840 The following dates are missing 1 July 1892 to 3 Jan 1893 29 June 1894 to 31 Dec 1894 19 Dec 1895 to 31 Dec 1895 1 July 1986 to 31 Dec 1896 16 Oct 1925 to 1 Feb 1926 Sept 1933 to Oct 1933 4 Farmer's Register (Greensburg,Pa) (Weekly) 21 June 1799 through 24 Aug 1802 18 Aug 1840 through 28 Oct 1840 5. Greensburg Daily Record (Daily) 3 April 1886 through 11 Jan 1890 6 Westmoreland Intelligence (weekly) April 1841 to Dec 1847 7. Pennsylvania Argus (Weekly) 7 Dec 1832 through May 1834 9 Jan 1867 through 21 Dec 1871 8 Dec 1886 through 4 Dec 1899 28 Dec 1871 through 18 Dec 1872 20 Nov 1907 through 6 Nov 1912 8. Tribune Herald (weekly) 29 July 1870 through 24 Nov 1908 9. Greensburg Press Daily (Daily) 13 June 1882 through 28 Feb 1888 6 Mar 1888 through 18 Mar 1898 (missing 15 Apr 1891 to 13 Sept 1897) 22 Mar 1898 through 30 June 1899 10. Greensburg Evening Press (Daily) Oct 1881 through 31 Mar 1891