Hello subscribers. I am reading a newspaper article written in 1906 by a Marie G. TREVOR that was titled "A Marriage By Proxy". The story appeared in the March 23, 1906 issue of the Daily Independent (Monessen, Pennsylvania). In the story there are two other names, a Philip BOWERS and Enoch DEVLIN. I am trying to determine if this is a real story or fiction or some of both. The names and a reference to Rio de Janeiro fits a story from my family and the names and places are so close it's a little scary. The first sentence doesn't make any sense to me so I thought I'd ask those familiar with the Monessen, Westmoreland area it they can get figure it out. It starts: "In one of the mills of the B. manufactory worked a girl named Daisy. . . . " - I don't understand what is meant by the "B. manufactory" Any suggestions or help are welcome. I do not find the names above in the census but what about the other local sources. Is there a genealogy society, group or county web site? Thanks for your help in advance. Bob Moyer Asheboro, NC

The link doesn't work. > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:34:42 -0400> Subject: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line> > Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line.> To reach them go to> www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html> > Laney> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.  For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst

Yes it is ,but what is the dead-a-base at the Latrobe Bulletin? This one is not limited to the obits printed in the Latrobe Paper. Laney ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Carol Eddleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > Isn't it just an index to use to order the obituaries at $3 each? > > Carol C. Eddleman > Bedford PAGenWeb > http://www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/ > Director, Data Acquisition, PA-Roots > http://www.pa-roots.org/data/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, but at least it provides a date of death if you do not know it. Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Carol Eddleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > Isn't it just an index to use to order the obituaries at $3 each? > > Carol C. Eddleman > Bedford PAGenWeb > http://www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/ > Director, Data Acquisition, PA-Roots > http://www.pa-roots.org/data/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Isn't it just an index to use to order the obituaries at $3 each? Carol C. Eddleman Bedford PAGenWeb http://www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/ Director, Data Acquisition, PA-Roots http://www.pa-roots.org/data/

Try this http://www.pa-roots.com/~baltzermeyer/Pages/obituarymain.html Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > site Doesn't work try again please > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "laney" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:34 PM > Subject: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > > >> Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line. >> To reach them go to >> www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html >> >> Laney >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 > 7:20 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line. To reach them go to www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html Laney

That worked thanks Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawne Temple" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > Try this http://www.pa-roots.com/~baltzermeyer/Pages/obituarymain.html > > Dawne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > > >> site Doesn't work try again please >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "laney" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:34 PM >> Subject: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line >> >> >>> Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line. >>> To reach them go to >>> www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html >>> >>> Laney >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 >> 7:20 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM

site Doesn't work try again please ----- Original Message ----- From: "laney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line. > To reach them go to > www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html > > Laney > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM

In a message dated 6/16/2008 8:43:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: We work well together, Westmorelanders. And we can laugh together. Never know where those messages are going to go, sometimes. Shirley **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

In a message dated 6/16/2008 4:23:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Shirley, Learning how to obtain records from the courthouse by using FamilySearch information is very helpful. Thanks for taking time to send the information. I would still be floundering, really I would, if it hadn't been for the FHC. I had written to the courthouse for records, not really knowing the citations, and Mr. Keim was kind but said his staff was too busy to search. So when I learned how to get the citations, I went wild and ordered film week after week. I extracted all the information I could find. As the budget allows or when I remember, I order a will or a deed or a guardianship. Sam Moore's probated will covered over 40 years and cost 45 dollars, but it covered 3 generations of heirs. What a treasure! Gr.gr.grandpap's intestate account and the list of property were amazing. I had no idea he was so wealthy. It named all his children, as well, with Uncle Ben being named administrator along with a newspaper editor and a teacher...connections I had no idea existed in our family. The WPA or whoever did us a favor indexing the court records by alphabet. The A surnames, the B surnames, etc. I wallowed in the M's for weeks. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

I loved it Stupid MEN ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Early records > And Dawne remembers the sources my older memory has forgotten. > Thanks, gal. Appreciate it. > If we all give our knowledge and someone tells us where we read it or how > we > got it, we could all learn a lot, huh? > > We work well together, Westmorelanders. > > Shirley Maynard > Hampton, VA > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are near a Family History Center in a LDS temple, you may rent film > that will give you some help. > Go to the site _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) , then > <library>, then <library search>, then <place>, then type in only > <Westmoreland>. A menu will appear with all the Westmorelands availaable. > Chose > <Pennsylvania Westmoreland>. > You will see a long list of records available, unfortunately many of them > in > book form that you can't get. > But go to <probate> and select one or more of those categories. You will > see the WPA compilation of court records by alphabet. Yes, in > alphabetical > order. Shirley, Learning how to obtain records from the courthouse by using FamilySearch information is very helpful. Thanks for taking time to send the information. Rana > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to the person who sent the newspaper link about the Harry Swartz who was arrested for horse stealing. I have seen that before, but could not determine from the story if it was the same man. There was a younger Harry Swartz in the census who might better fit the profile, as my Harry would have been in his late 50s by then. The article did mention that Harry left with a Mrs. Lulu Rodgers and her two little boys. Harry and Anna had a daughter Lulu, but it almost sounds as though this was a romantic tryst. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ridenour" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO] Harry Swartz > Greetings to all: > > I am trying to find out more about Harry b. 1848 and Anna Ridenour Swartz > b. 1850 who were living in Upper Tyrone Twp, Fayette co.. in 1880. The > last record I have of them is in 1904 at the marriage of their daughter > Edna to Adrian Lynn Lemen. The newspaper article stated that Edna was the > daughter of Harry and Anna Ritenour Swartz of Pennsville. Unless the index > is faulty, I could not find them in either 1900 or 1910 census. My guess > is that they were either in Upper Tyrone/ Bullskin in Fayette or else > Scottdale/East Huntingdon in Westmoreland. Their children were as follows: > > Lulu Swartz b. 1877 > Abbie Swartz b. 1879 md. William Geyer lived at Amelia Co., VA > Cozie Swartz d. 1930 Brownsville md. Samuel Albright > Ethel Swartz 1887-1965 never married (she was living with her aunt Sarah > Ridenour in Scottdale in 1910 and later lived in NY and Ohio) > Edna O. Swartz md. A. Lynn Lemen moved to Cleveland, OH > > I would like to find out when they died and where they are buried. It is > likely that Anna (also called "Ann"--her full name was "Nancy Ann")died > before 1923 as a sister's obit says she was the last of her family. Many > of the Ridenour family are buried in Scottdale Cemetery and that would be > a likely place.. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated... > > Tom > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And Dawne remembers the sources my older memory has forgotten. Thanks, gal. Appreciate it. If we all give our knowledge and someone tells us where we read it or how we got it, we could all learn a lot, huh? We work well together, Westmorelanders. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Greetings to all: I am trying to find out more about Harry b. 1848 and Anna Ridenour Swartz b. 1850 who were living in Upper Tyrone Twp, Fayette co.. in 1880. The last record I have of them is in 1904 at the marriage of their daughter Edna to Adrian Lynn Lemen. The newspaper article stated that Edna was the daughter of Harry and Anna Ritenour Swartz of Pennsville. Unless the index is faulty, I could not find them in either 1900 or 1910 census. My guess is that they were either in Upper Tyrone/ Bullskin in Fayette or else Scottdale/East Huntingdon in Westmoreland. Their children were as follows: Lulu Swartz b. 1877 Abbie Swartz b. 1879 md. William Geyer lived at Amelia Co., VA Cozie Swartz d. 1930 Brownsville md. Samuel Albright Ethel Swartz 1887-1965 never married (she was living with her aunt Sarah Ridenour in Scottdale in 1910 and later lived in NY and Ohio) Edna O. Swartz md. A. Lynn Lemen moved to Cleveland, OH I would like to find out when they died and where they are buried. It is likely that Anna (also called "Ann"--her full name was "Nancy Ann")died before 1923 as a sister's obit says she was the last of her family. Many of the Ridenour family are buried in Scottdale Cemetery and that would be a likely place.. Any help would be greatly appreciated... Tom

In a message dated 6/15/2008 10:51:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I'm going to try and get "The Great Wagon Road" here at the Altoona library or one of my friends in Williamsburg may have it. Yes, it's sold at Colonial Williamsburg. That is where I got my copy. He has written many books, but this one appealed to me because I enjoy reading migration histories. Honestly, I thought I was writing a private message or I wouldn't have been so, ah, wordy, Anyway, I neglected to tell about the British and French in Canada using the Great Lakes to travel to the interior of our land. Our Westmorelanders were frequently captured and taken to Canada using those routes. When the men escaped and returned, they could give details of the route to the map makers. Brave men crossed the boundaries set by the government treaties (with the natives) and reported on rich land and then set about destroying those treaties with settlements of their own. Dangerous, of course, to all, including the natives, but necessary in immigrants who desperately needed land. It's such a broad subject many books have been written on migration in this country. The rest is simply common sense. How would I have felt about this situation or how would my family have fared in that situation? Would we have selected the water way (NO, I don't like being on water) or the mountains? And what about the amount of baggage we would need to carry and which rate was more economically better for us? If our entire village moved, would we move with them? Or would we remain behind and acquire their land? Would we like the security of freedom from rules or would we run from freedom into social institutions? (Erich Fromm: "Escape From Freedom.") You can extrapolate much from your own experiences, but of course, times were different, experiences were different, their thoughts about religion and property and government were different. So research, research, research, not just the cold hard facts of this and that, but the philosophies of the different times, as well. Think of Mr. Gibbs, crossing the Cumberland Gap, seeing the lovely land stretching out and settling others on this land, returning and telling his family about the land beyond. Of course the natives were restless but land was worth the risk. We need to understand the immigrants thirst for land by studying the history of land ownership in Europe, the history of the common people. Still another subject but one that directly affected our history. It could be a lifetime study, learning about us and our families. Once I told my philosophy professor I need 7 lifetimes to learn what I want to know now--heaven knows what it would take if I did have 7 lifetimes. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

I love the information that Shirley is sending to the list, it is informative and fun to read. I ran across these, someone might like to look at them. They say just about the same thing that Shirley has sent with a few more specifics. It is interesting to read how different groups chose to move to new areas. http://www.indwes.edu/Faculty/bcupp/genes/migrate.htm This one divides migration by counties. http://www.pa-roots.com/migrations/index.html Dawne