Mary Ellen In some cases the chruch where they were married over here required them to prove they were baptized in Ireland and that baptismal information may be included their wedding record here. It's worked in NYC for me. God luck and remember the penal laws at the turn of the century prevented catholics from conducting religious serives, speaking galeic, recieving an education, holding office or owning a horse more than five hands tall. I am unaware of records starting around 1820, the offical records date is closer to 1863. Each county has a family history centry that has copies of church records and other information. I'd try them before I'd hire anyone. > From: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:13:02 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Death certificates and marriage certificates > > Hi, I am still trying to obtain the information of what county my GG > Grandmother was born in Ireland. Before I attempt to get a genealogist (which is > quite expensive) from Ireland to do some work for me...I need to locate what > parish she was from or county in Ireland. I don't know if this would be listed > on her death certificate, or her marriage certificate. Can someone give me some > information on this? I also do not know where she and my GG Grandfather were > married. It is really causing some problems for me. What does someone > suggest? We are going back to the 1820's to 1830's. I do know that she died in > Latrobe on 6/3/1882. She was born in Waterford Ireland in 1820, so she would have > been 62 years old. Records are available in Ireland beginning a little > before 1820, so I could locate the parish if I had more information. It is really > important to me as I have spent at least 10 years trying to come up with > information. I know that if I could get information from the Catholic Church I > would probably have my answer, but I doubt that I will get this from them in > Westmoreland County. Can someone please tell me what to do....thanks so much! > Mary Ellen > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i’m Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving

Hi, Her full name was Ellen Cummins Williams from Latrobe. She was married to David Williams and settled in Latrobe sometime around 1850. Articles also refer to the spelling of her maiden name as Cummings, but my Irish cousin and I believe that it should be Cummins. She was born in 1820 in Waterford County. She belonged to the St. Vincent Abbey in Latrobe. Articles indicate that she died 6/3/1882. We do not know where she and David were married. They raised 10 children in Latrobe, PA. I can't get any further information on her. I know that she is buried in section A of St. Mary's Cemetery, but Holy Family Church was not built until sometime after she died. That means that the only church she and my GG Grandfather could have belonged to was St. Vincent's in Latrobe. Any help anyone can provide for me is appreciated. I just need clarification of the date of birth and what parish/county did she come from in Ireland. This will help me go over to Ireland and do research going backwards. I have been lucky to go backwards on her husband. Thanks, Mary Ellen **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

They didn't start keeping death certificates or birth certificates for Westmoreland County until 1893 and then only until 1905. So if you had a person who died in this time period you can get the certificate at Westmoreland Courthouse. After 1905 you must get it from Pa records at New Castle Pa. If she was Catholic and lived in Latrobe there is a good chance that she belonged to St. Vincents Church. What was her name full name single and married? ------ Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Death certificates and marriage certificates > Hi, I am still trying to obtain the information of what county my GG > Grandmother was born in Ireland. Before I attempt to get a genealogist > (which is > quite expensive) from Ireland to do some work for me...I need to locate > what > parish she was from or county in Ireland. I don't know if this would be > listed > on her death certificate, or her marriage certificate. Can someone give me > some > information on this? I also do not know where she and my GG Grandfather > were > married. It is really causing some problems for me. What does someone > suggest? We are going back to the 1820's to 1830's. I do know that she > died in > Latrobe on 6/3/1882. She was born in Waterford Ireland in 1820, so she > would have > been 62 years old. Records are available in Ireland beginning a little > before 1820, so I could locate the parish if I had more information. It > is really > important to me as I have spent at least 10 years trying to come up with > information. I know that if I could get information from the Catholic > Church I > would probably have my answer, but I doubt that I will get this from them > in > Westmoreland County. Can someone please tell me what to do....thanks so > much! > Mary Ellen > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't understand what you're asking.What death cert? Bella ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Irish research in Waterford > Bella, Thanks! > > One last question do you think the death certificate would have any > valuable > information on it? Mary Ellen > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bella, Thanks! One last question do you think the death certificate would have any valuable information on it? Mary Ellen **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Mary Ellen, What's your hurry? Before I'd pay an professional genealogist in Ireland, I'd attempt to do what I could from here. The online Irish records project for County Waterford is not yet online. This link may explain some things to others doing Irish research as well. http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php?&set=yes I'd continue to watch that site for news on when the release of the Waterford records will occur. But in the meantime, Take inventory on what "facts" about them in this country you actually have. For example, do you have all the available census records for them? Have you roughly determined when she arrived in the US (when did they first appear on the census?)? Was she already married? If not, for that time frame, a good source of Catholic B-M-D records is the 5-vol(?) set of bound books by Fr. Ledoux which has Catholic records from Central PA, Blair, Cambria Counties. It is a wonderful resource. Did they always (and only) live in WestmoCo? Are you positive? Check those Ledoux books. Check your closest library with a good local history dept. Check the Carnegie Library Catalog as well. Depending on when your folks left Ireland, have you attempted looking at the Griffiths Valuations for Co. Waterford for "like-named" families? Griffiths might be in the Ancestry.com Library Edition (in the UK/Ireland Collection of records). Have you found any US Naturalizations (at the county level) for your folks? Usually not much is on the Nat. papers for the mid-1800's but, you can at least get an idea of time of their arrival. If not in WestmoCo, try Cambria & Blair & Indiana COs. Can you say "field trip"? With that beautiful set of online records for WestmoCo, I'm surpirsed that a Naturalization index is not included with them. And don't forget the LDS Library Catalog. What do they have on Waterford? Make time to order in, and look at, one or two films of note, just to see for yourself what you're working with. Have you subscribed to the Rootsweb mailing lists for your surname of interest, and, for Co. Waterford? Lurk for awhile, then put out a feeler posting to see what responses you might get. Those are my few suggestions for how to proceed. Surely other listers can come up with more for you. Spending for a foreign researcher would be my LAST resort. Not that I have anything against them, I'd just prefer to use my noggin' and do some of the stuff myself. And by all means, don't get frustrated feeling that you're not getting anywhere. Lots of us have been doing this much longer than you, and still cannot make the overseas connection. Bella

Hi, I am still trying to obtain the information of what county my GG Grandmother was born in Ireland. Before I attempt to get a genealogist (which is quite expensive) from Ireland to do some work for me...I need to locate what parish she was from or county in Ireland. I don't know if this would be listed on her death certificate, or her marriage certificate. Can someone give me some information on this? I also do not know where she and my GG Grandfather were married. It is really causing some problems for me. What does someone suggest? We are going back to the 1820's to 1830's. I do know that she died in Latrobe on 6/3/1882. She was born in Waterford Ireland in 1820, so she would have been 62 years old. Records are available in Ireland beginning a little before 1820, so I could locate the parish if I had more information. It is really important to me as I have spent at least 10 years trying to come up with information. I know that if I could get information from the Catholic Church I would probably have my answer, but I doubt that I will get this from them in Westmoreland County. Can someone please tell me what to do....thanks so much! Mary Ellen **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Thanks, Ellen. It's in my house, I know it is. It is infuriating to lose something like that. I hoped to get it easier than tearing about 3 floor to ceiling and two half bookshelves, but I guess I need to get busy and look again. Shirley **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Dear Shirley, I don't really have a good reply for you, except to say that it's likely in the Tribune Review or possibly the Standard Observer, that was bought out by them. The late Tribune Review Papers are on microfilm in the Penn State Library, on the Campus, out of Greensburg, if it is not on microfilm at the Hempfield/Greensburg Public Library. Penn State purchases the microfilm for the library. The complication is that I don't know if you could hire someone to look for it & take it off for you. I only went out there to do it once. Regards, Ellen

My cousin, Sonja Mae Sedunov Sobeck, was killed in an accident in Greensburg, 14 Feb. 1987. It was her 40th birthday. I had a copy of her obit and the accident report but can't find them. Her obit is not in the Adams index nor is it in the Greensburg index. I'm sure the accident would have been reported in Greensburg, however. Any way to get hold of a copy? Shirley **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Dear Jamie, I can't find your address. I checked about 41 cemeteries for you & the obits to 1899 & the ones you are interested in are not mentioned at all. Ellen

In a message dated 6/18/2008 9:34:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Clifford H. Moore was the husband of my very dear friend Dorothy if this is the one I think it is. He was a Methodist minister and is greatly missed by his family. I will tell her that he is listed at Baltzer Meyer. It is, Dawne. Cliff was son of William Franklin Moore and his second wife, Sara Aikey. William Franklin Moore was son of William Henry Moore and his wife, Ella Dessey Brown. William Henry Moore was the only child of James B. Moore and his second wife, Martha Martin. And James was immigrant Johannes Conrad Mohr's next to youngest son. William Franklin Moore's first wife was my grandmother's sister. She was Elsa Sholey. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

In a message dated 6/17/2008 7:50:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: However, it looks like they are just late ones so far. It did say what was sent by others, didn't it? Or garnered from some of the area newspapers. It's still a nice source and I thank the society for it. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Any list of obits is a good list and $3 is cheaper than getting a death certificate, if you can get one that is !! > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:59:50 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > > > In a message dated 6/17/2008 6:42:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Yes, but at least it provides a date of death if you do not know it. > > > > And I even saw a title, Rev. Clifford H. Moore. There were few Moore obits > and most not mine. It was nice they put widow/widower names on the Moore > obits. > . > Shirley Maynard > Hampton, VA > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrchcashback

Clifford H. Moore was the husband of my very dear friend Dorothy if this is the one I think it is. He was a Methodist minister and is greatly missed by his family. I will tell her that he is listed at Baltzer Meyer. Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line > > In a message dated 6/17/2008 6:42:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Yes, but at least it provides a date of death if you do not know it. > > > > And I even saw a title, Rev. Clifford H. Moore. There were few Moore > obits > and most not mine. It was nice they put widow/widower names on the Moore > obits. > . > Shirley Maynard > Hampton, VA > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am descended from Jane MANSPERGER (1812-1876) who married Samuel BLACK in 1828. She was the d/o John Mansperger, a Captain in the York Co., PA Militia. The family was traveling to Ohio when John died in 1824 on the Ludwick farm in Westmoreland Co. Jane had the following siblings: Sarah (1810-1882) m Robert HUNTER John (1817-1893) m #1 Isabella McGrew #2 Sarah Jane Oglebay. He settled in Mt Ephraim, OH. George (1821-1877) married Susannah Shaler in 1840 and settled in Missouri Maria b 1825 lived in North Huntington Twp. Was single. If anyone is researching this family, a reunion is scheduled for Aug 2 at Coopers Rock State Forest, 13 miles east of Morgantown, WV. I can provide more information if anyone is interested. JoAnn Cupp Grass Valley, CA

In a message dated 6/17/2008 6:42:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Yes, but at least it provides a date of death if you do not know it. And I even saw a title, Rev. Clifford H. Moore. There were few Moore obits and most not mine. It was nice they put widow/widower names on the Moore obits. . Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as Mrs. PRICKETT which was taken at the J. Sorenson Studio in Toppenish, Washington. The photograph appears to have been taken in the early 1900's with Mrs. PRICKETT likely in her 40's at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I believe that this is likely a photograph of Anna Catherine MOMEYER, wife of Japheth PRICKETT and have gathered the following information: Anna Catherine MOMEYER b. 13 Oct 1860 in West Unity, OH to parents John MOMEYER (b. 20 Jan 1825 in Unity Township, PA) and Mary Elizabeth CRAVENS (b. 20 Jan 1836 in Fayette City, PA). She married Japheth Charles Freemont PRICKETT (b. 14 Sept 1857) on 4 Oct 1887 in West Unity, OH. The couple had 7 children including, Charles Augustus; Mary Elizabeth; Clara Maria; Grace Evangeline; Charlotte Amelia; George Eldridge; and Franklin Japheth PRICKETT all born between 1888 and 1907. Anna Catherine MOMEYER PRICKETT died 29 Mar 1947 and is buried in Yakima, WA. Census records for the family are as follows: 1900 census of Brady Township, OH: Japheth F. PRICKETT, age 52, born Sept 1847, married 12 years, born OH, parents born NJ/OH, a Farmer Anna C. PRICKETT, wife, age 39, born Oct 1860, married 12 years, 7 children/6 living, born OH, parents born PA Charles A. PRICKETT, son, age 11, born Jun 1888, born OH Mary E. PRICKETT, dau, age 10, born Aug 1889, born OH Phoebe E. PRICKETT, dau, age 9, born Apr 1891, born OH Clara M. PRICKETT, dau, age 7, born Jan 1893, born OH Grace E. PRICKETT, dau, age 5, born Sep 1894, born OH Charlotte A. PRICKETT, dau, age 1, born Jun 1898, born OH 1910 census of Outlook, WA: Japheth F. PRICKET, age 52, married 22 years, born OH, parents born NJ/OH, a Farmer Anne PRICKET, wife, age 49, married 22 years, 8 children/7 living, born OH, parents born PA Clara PRICKET, dau, age 17, born OH Grace PRICKET, dau, age 15, born OH Charlotte PRICKET, dau, age 11, born OH Frans PRICKET, son, age 2, born WA 1920 census of Outlook, WA: Japheth F. PRICKETT, age 62, born OH, parents born NJ/OH Annie PRICKETT, wife, age 59, born OH, parents born PA Charlotte PRICKETT, dau, age 21, born OH Franklin PRICKETT, son, age 12, born WA I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

There are some in there that go back to the early 1900's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line Just go on line & type in the name Baltzer Mayer Historical Society & the site comes up. That's what I did & I used the first listing to get to the obits. However, it looks like they are just late ones so far. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jack O'Connor Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line The link doesn't work. > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:34:42 -0400> Subject: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line> > Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line.> To reach them go to> www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html> > Laney> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The i'm Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just go on line & type in the name Baltzer Mayer Historical Society & the site comes up. That's what I did & I used the first listing to get to the obits. However, it looks like they are just late ones so far. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jack O'Connor Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line The link doesn't work. > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:34:42 -0400> Subject: [PAWESTMO] Obits on line> > Baltzer Meyer Historical Society now has obits on line.> To reach them go to> www.pa-roots.com~baltzermeyer/Pages/home.html> > Laney> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.  For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message