Thanks Shirley! The monthly meeting is next Tuesday so if it comes by then I will surely know. I'll email you as soon as I find out that it is here. We are thrilled to have this information! To everyone else who is in the area..you are most cordially invited to come to the meeting. It is on Tuesday at 7 p.m. at the Cook Twp. Community Center in Stahlstown. It is located along Rt 711 and easy to find. The speakers this month are the Drummers Of Native Sisters. This group promotes the values of their Native American ancestors and promote the tradition of drumming. There is no fee to attend and we always like to see old and new friends. Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: [PAWESTMO] Dawne > Box will be mailed this morning. Probably book rate. Not the obits, yet. > Still organizing them. > Of course, I did not do what I fuss at others for not doing. I didn't > put > my email inside for a quick response. > Sorry. > Shirley Maynard > Hampton, VA > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Greetings List, Within the past several months there have been more deaths of my family and friends than ever. Last night I learned of another friend who passed away. Right now I have not other knowledge such as when she died, where she lived, nothing. Her name is Colleen Kozak (used to live in Greensburg). I am just asking if anyone comes across her name anywhere please let me know. I have check the Trib obits search, nothing so far. She would have been 40 something in age. Thanks everyone. Blessings, Debra Jo (BAILES) NAIL formally of SW Greensburg, PA genealogy email: [email protected] Debra Jo Nail, Domestic Engineer, 400 Darnell Road, Dresden, TN 38225 731-364-5659 ________________________________________________ Happiness keeps you Sweet, Trials keep you Strong, Sorrows keep you Human, Failures keep you Humble, Success keeps you Glowing, But Only God Keeps You Going!

Box will be mailed this morning. Probably book rate. Not the obits, yet. Still organizing them. Of course, I did not do what I fuss at others for not doing. I didn't put my email inside for a quick response. Sorry. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

What is the Weber Memorial? Thanks. Nancy Karns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shirley Hunt Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:59 PM To: Westmoreland PA Subject: [PAWESTMO] Tax records When looking at tax records in Westmoreland Co., I found a Simon Long (carpenter with one cow) in North Huntingdon Township in 1829.  In this same record are David Long, William Long, and Andrew Long listed and in the same area in 1830, 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834.  In 1834 it had the cow died.  In 1835, all the other Longs are still there, but Simon is gone. I visited the Weber Memorial near Youngwood (South of Greensburg) and found Tobias Long as well as a Simon Long, but this Simon was born in 1822.  My question is, at what age would a person be taxed?  This Simon would have been 7 years old. My Simon Long was born in 1816 and would have been 13 or 14 years old.  Does anyone have any thoughts about this?   Shirley Hunt Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ============================================================================== This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail message and delete the original and all copies of the communication, along with any attachments hereto or links herein, from your system. ============================================================================== The Travelers e-mail system made this annotation on 08/13/08, 08:24:39.

So that means there were at least three (3) Simon Long's in Westmoreland Co. PA in 1830. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawne Temple" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] Tax records > Hi Shirley, > > This site > http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:brjOfGo7DJEJ:www.geocities.com/trconrad2001/how2.html+pennsylvania+age+when+taxed+1800's&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 > says tat they were not taxed until they were 21, look under PA Archives. > > Dawne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Hunt" <[email protected]> > To: "Westmoreland PA" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:59 PM > Subject: [PAWESTMO] Tax records > > > When looking at tax records in Westmoreland Co., I found a Simon Long > (carpenter with one cow) in North Huntingdon Township in 1829. In this > same > record are David Long, William Long, and Andrew Long listed and in the > same > area in 1830, 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834. In 1834 it had the cow died. In > 1835, all the other Longs are still there, but Simon is gone. > I visited the Weber Memorial near Youngwood (South of Greensburg) and > found > Tobias Long as well as a Simon Long, but this Simon was born in 1822. > My question is, at what age would a person be taxed? This Simon would have > been 7 years old. > My Simon Long was born in 1816 and would have been 13 or 14 years old. > Does anyone have any thoughts about this? > > Shirley Hunt > > > Shirley > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FYI When I was in the courthouse in Greensburg, a lady there told me there was a cemetery with a lot of Longs at the Weber Memorial in Youngwood.  She gave me directions, however, it was quite difficult to find (sign missing, among other things).  Youngwood is a few short miles south of Greensburg on Rt. 119.  You turn west at Depot Street and continue a few miles (maybe two or three) bearing left where the road splits and you come to Milliron Church Road.  You can only turn left and you go past a picnic pavilion to a very small church (I guess that is Weber Memorial church)?  Next to the church is the small cemetery with the Longs including Tobias and Simon.  Some of the stones are impossible to read, some have been replaced with newer monuments and others are easily read.  Why it is called Weber Memorial, I cannot answer because clearly there are more Longs buried there than any other surname.  I don't remember even seeing a Weber stone.  There was an Andrew Eisaman and family there and a few other surnames as well.  Hope this helps someone. Shirley Hunt

Hi Shirley, This site http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:brjOfGo7DJEJ:www.geocities.com/trconrad2001/how2.html+pennsylvania+age+when+taxed+1800's&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 says tat they were not taxed until they were 21, look under PA Archives. Dawne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Hunt" <[email protected]> To: "Westmoreland PA" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:59 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO] Tax records When looking at tax records in Westmoreland Co., I found a Simon Long (carpenter with one cow) in North Huntingdon Township in 1829. In this same record are David Long, William Long, and Andrew Long listed and in the same area in 1830, 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834. In 1834 it had the cow died. In 1835, all the other Longs are still there, but Simon is gone. I visited the Weber Memorial near Youngwood (South of Greensburg) and found Tobias Long as well as a Simon Long, but this Simon was born in 1822. My question is, at what age would a person be taxed? This Simon would have been 7 years old. My Simon Long was born in 1816 and would have been 13 or 14 years old. Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Shirley Hunt Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When looking at tax records in Westmoreland Co., I found a Simon Long (carpenter with one cow) in North Huntingdon Township in 1829.  In this same record are David Long, William Long, and Andrew Long listed and in the same area in 1830, 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834.  In 1834 it had the cow died.  In 1835, all the other Longs are still there, but Simon is gone. I visited the Weber Memorial near Youngwood (South of Greensburg) and found Tobias Long as well as a Simon Long, but this Simon was born in 1822.  My question is, at what age would a person be taxed?  This Simon would have been 7 years old. My Simon Long was born in 1816 and would have been 13 or 14 years old.  Does anyone have any thoughts about this?   Shirley Hunt Shirley

HELLO, RE: MCNEES THE McKeesport PA Historical Society had a recent Director by that name. Hope this is a good hint. Carla Skiffington in Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Miller" <[email protected]> To: "ZZ-Westmoreland Co., Pa." <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:52 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO] 1783 petition for new state > I wonder if anyone has access to "Two lists of early residents of s/w Pa.; those holding Va. grants, 1779-1785; signers of a petition to form a new state" by Helen L. Harriss and would share some info from it? I would be most interested in any McCormicks shown on these lists. Also, would welcome any info on McNees, Wiley, McClain and McClelland. > Thanks, > Art Miller, Louisville > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am seeking information on the 1936 buriel of Julius Drager, Sr. I have a copy of a funeral invitation card that indicates this funeral will be at Newtown Cemetary Chapel and interment at Newtown Cemetary. Arrangements by Stacy B. Brown Funeral Home in Newtown, PA. That is the only information that I have about Julius Drager and would like to find out much more about this gentleman as I believe that he is my great grandfather's brother. Thank you for any assistance. Delores Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

I came across this site while searching Ohio vitals. If you click Pennsylvania, it will show some vitals by county. Rhonda _http://www.ohgen.net/Ohio_Vital_Record_Batch_Numbers_By_County.html_ (http://www.ohgen.net/Ohio_Vital_Record_Batch_Numbers_By_County.html) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Bella, Thanks. I did get to Pa. Archives. Turns out one has to sign up in order to use most of the site. One try showed that there was annual cost of about $60. Not bad (compared to Ancestry.com) if one can use it quite a bit. Art ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [PAWESTMO] early marriages > Art, > You might want to try this resource: > www.footnote.com > > That is the relatively new subscription site, which has a FREE set of > records, The PA Archives. If you navigate to the PA Archives of > footnote.com (you can experiment with the site yourself, I'm not going to > detail how for you). A long time ago I came across a copy of a small > directory produced by ?? PA Museum Commission or some such, which was a > guide to doing genea-research in the published PA Archives. From that: > there are PA early marriages in the PA Archives in The Second Series,Vol > 2:marriages licenses issued prior to 1790; Sixth Series Vol 6:marriage > licenses 1784- (can't read my copy-blurred); Second Series Vol 8:marriages > recorded by the (blurred) General 1685-1689; and Second Series Vol 8-9: > marriages prior to 1810. > I can't remember if county of residence for the couples were noted. > Hope you find something there. > Bella > > > > > From: Art Miller <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/08/05 Tue PM 09:28:31 CDT > To: "ZZ-Westmoreland Co., Pa." <[email protected]> > Subject: [PAWESTMO] early marriages > > I wonder if anyone has access to marriages in Westmoreland Co. prior to > 1800? I would be most interested in any McCormick marriages listed. > Thanks for any help. > Art Miller, Louisville > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I see from the previous post that the link continues on the line below. You need to highlight everything from http through 17099m, copy and paste that.in the address bar of your browser and press go. Hope that helps. Donny Jones wrote: > From: Lee Anne Center <[email protected]> > > > Art, > > The Historic Pittsburgh Full-Text Collection has a digital copy of History > of Washington County, Pennsylvania : with biographical sketches of many of > its pioneers and prominent men, edited by Boyd Crumrine. You can click on a > book section to read or search the book. The URL is > http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/t/text/text-idx?c=pitttext;view=toc; > idno=00hc17099m. > > Lee Anne, I did cut and paste without success. Is this the accurate link? > > TIA > > Donny J. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 8:23 AM > > > >

Art, You might want to try this resource: www.footnote.com That is the relatively new subscription site, which has a FREE set of records, The PA Archives. If you navigate to the PA Archives of footnote.com (you can experiment with the site yourself, I'm not going to detail how for you). A long time ago I came across a copy of a small directory produced by ?? PA Museum Commission or some such, which was a guide to doing genea-research in the published PA Archives. From that: there are PA early marriages in the PA Archives in The Second Series,Vol 2:marriages licenses issued prior to 1790; Sixth Series Vol 6:marriage licenses 1784- (can't read my copy-blurred); Second Series Vol 8:marriages recorded by the (blurred) General 1685-1689; and Second Series Vol 8-9: marriages prior to 1810. I can't remember if county of residence for the couples were noted. Hope you find something there. Bella From: Art Miller <[email protected]> Date: 2008/08/05 Tue PM 09:28:31 CDT To: "ZZ-Westmoreland Co., Pa." <[email protected]> Subject: [PAWESTMO] early marriages I wonder if anyone has access to marriages in Westmoreland Co. prior to 1800? I would be most interested in any McCormick marriages listed. Thanks for any help. Art Miller, Louisville ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: Lee Anne Center <[email protected]> Art, The Historic Pittsburgh Full-Text Collection has a digital copy of History of Washington County, Pennsylvania : with biographical sketches of many of its pioneers and prominent men, edited by Boyd Crumrine. You can click on a book section to read or search the book. The URL is http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/t/text/text-idx?c=pitttext;view=toc; idno=00hc17099m. Lee Anne, I did cut and paste without success. Is this the accurate link? TIA Donny J. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/6/2008 3:25:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There are no county records of marriages prior to the late 1800's. You need to rely on newspaper notices (which have been abstracted for some newspapers) and church records (you need to know the denomination). Wills and deeds, of course, also provide information. Don't forget civil war pension and widows' pension records. I found several of mine. Unfortunately, some went to Pittsburgh to get married by a JP and weren't able to produce proof, but fortunately, the relatives from around the country wrote letters supporting their marriage. . There are records from 1820 to 1865, however. I found Benjamin Moore married to Catherine Albert, 23 Oct. 1856. Citation: _Brush Creek Lutheran Church Westmoreland County, Penna., Marriages 1820 to 1865_. Compiled by Fort Hand DAR, 1935. "Record of Marriages of Jonas Mechling." Jonas Mechling was the Evangelical Lutheran Minister of the Gospel, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co., PA. Catherine was from Mount. Pleasant. I found Ben when I rented the film thru the LDS about 10 or so years ago. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

There are no county records of marriages prior to the late 1800's. You need to rely on newspaper notices (which have been abstracted for some newspapers) and church records (you need to know the denomination). Wills and deeds, of course, also provide information. Bob Warren [email protected] ----- Original Message ---- From: Art Miller <[email protected]> To: "ZZ-Westmoreland Co., Pa." <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 9:28:31 PM Subject: [PAWESTMO] early marriages I wonder if anyone has access to marriages in Westmoreland Co. prior to 1800?  I would be most interested in any McCormick marriages listed.  Thanks for any help. Art Miller, Louisville ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I was reading your message and in addition, I would like to know how you would get access to marriages after 1800. Are there marriage certificates and if so, where would you get them? Thanks, Mary Ellen **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Art, The Historic Pittsburgh Full-Text Collection has a digital copy of History of Washington County, Pennsylvania : with biographical sketches of many of its pioneers and prominent men, edited by Boyd Crumrine. You can click on a book section to read or search the book. The URL is http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/t/text/text-idx?c=pitttext;view=toc; idno=00hc17099m. Lee Anne

Art,      From the 1782 Petition for A New State in "The Ten Mile Country and Its Pioneer Families" by Howard L. Leckey, the name JOHN MCCLELLAND is listed four times.  This could be the same person or different people as this petition was circulated from 1780-1782 before being presented to Congress on January 23, 1783.  There is also a JAMES MCCLELLAND, GEORGE MCCORMICK and JAMES MCCORMICK who is listed twice.  None of your other names appear on this petition.      The other petition of the Virginia inhabitants is known as Petition No. 8 and was presented to the then Govenor of Virginia Harris in June 1782.  The petitioners were asking the Govenor of Virginia that since their lands were now above the Mason-Dixon line should they pay allegience to Pennsylvania or were they still Virginians.  A list of names on this petition is found in "Yohogania County A Short Lived County" by Raymond M. Bell.  There is a copy of this book at the Citizens Library in Washington, PA.  I don't have the names on this list at my fingertips, but I will look for your names the next time I am at Citizens and let you know if I find them.      Both petitions were also published in their entirety in the "History of Washington County, Pennsylvania" by Boyd Crumrine (1882).   Editions of this book are found in several libraries across the country. If you go to WorldCat (www.worldcat.org) and search this title and then click on one the title links,  it brings up a page where you can put in your zip code  and it will give you the libraries in your surrounding area that have a copy of the book.      Both petitions are very interesting reading and really give insight into the frustration of the settlers in the upheaval and confusion caused by the land dispute between Pennsylvania and Virginia.   Pam Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA [email protected]